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Old 10 June 2009, 07:50 PM
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Default 500 BHP PROJECT NOW IN PROGRESS

HI ALL,

thought i would let you all no that my project is underway as of friday last week having the block converted to rear thrust so my 2.2 stroker kit can go in iam putting in the following.

v9 billet steel crank #
manley pistons and rods
full race spec oil pump and water pump
having a set of sti heads gas flowed
and heads converted to full race spec
apr head bolts
race spec gasket set
new race spec exhaust manifold


would like to run as much tourqe as bhp,, got to get a new turbo and then she will be complete, the guy whos doing it recons about 4,5 weeks and she will be ready cant wait

will keep you updated .......
Old 10 June 2009, 08:17 PM
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What turbo are you hoping to run
Old 10 June 2009, 08:37 PM
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gearbox?clutch?....
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If you have not already paid for the billet crank, I would suggest it is not worth it at this level. Just stick with an OE 9 crank...... will save you a fortune.

Good luck with your quest of 500bhp!
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Originally Posted by stevebt
What turbo are you hoping to run
Well i have been looking in to this and i think i will go with a ihi vf 30 but iam on the case at looking in to other options....
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Originally Posted by Guinness
gearbox?clutch?....
well y shes being run in i will run standard but will upgrade at about 1600 miles tbh ive got to look in to the gearbox... but the clutch i have a twin plate stage 2 exeedy
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Originally Posted by Shaun
If you have not already paid for the billet crank, I would suggest it is not worth it at this level. Just stick with an OE 9 crank...... will save you a fortune.

Good luck with your quest of 500bhp!
well tbh mate had a right bargin with the crank only give £350 for it.
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You do realise that turbo won't make anywhere close to 500bhp

Originally Posted by jabbawockymark
Well i have been looking in to this and i think i will go with a ihi vf 30 but iam on the case at looking in to other options....
Old 10 June 2009, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebt
You do realise that turbo won't make anywhere close to 500bhp
yes fella i know but ive got this on the shelf the car is not having the injectors or the apexi ecu fitted untill the remap is done in about sep so will purchase one and have it all fitted then,,

still not sure what turbo to run got any ideas???????
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Originally Posted by jabbawockymark
yes fella i know but ive got this on the shelf the car is not having the injectors or the apexi ecu fitted untill the remap is done in about sep so will purchase one and have it all fitted then,,

still not sure what turbo to run got any ideas???????

RCM have built my car that is running at the power you want.

This link is my thread and may point you in some directions for your project.

Good luck with it mate.

https://www.scoobynet.com/projects-4...p1-600bhp.html
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Originally Posted by SkullFudge
RCM have built my car that is running at the power you want.

This link is my thread and may point you in some directions for your project.

Good luck with it mate.

https://www.scoobynet.com/projects-4...p1-600bhp.html
Thanks fudge you have a nice car will look through what you have done and maybe use some of your advice..
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good luck with the build... but I think you are quite a few things missing to get you to that power and they are very expensive things too.
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Don't I know it!
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Originally Posted by jabbawockymark
yes fella i know but ive got this on the shelf the car is not having the injectors or the apexi ecu fitted untill the remap is done in about sep so will purchase one and have it all fitted then,,

still not sure what turbo to run got any ideas???????
Turbo Technics S206 seems to be doing wonders on my 2.1 stroker.

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Nice figures Martyn. Is this on straight VPower or with 10% Meth etc?
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Straight Vpower for dyno so far Shaun, needs the fuel system revising now though as the single Walboro can't keep up (Thats why I didn't let it rev right out on the dyno due to high IDC's) , have dropped it back to 460hp for a minute.
Will be fitting a swirl pot and Bosch pump in the next week or so and we are off up to Shakespeare this weekend although the weather looks crap again for Sunday.
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Originally Posted by MartynJ
Straight Vpower for dyno so far Shaun, needs the fuel system revising now though as the single Walboro can't keep up (Thats why I didn't let it rev right out on the dyno due to high IDC's) , have dropped it back to 460hp for a minute.
Will be fitting a swirl pot and Bosch pump in the next week or so and we are off up to Shakespeare this weekend although the weather looks crap again for Sunday.
Hi martyn i will look in to this turbo what sort of money are they fella...
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MartynJ,
Excellent figures on VPower, well done to all involved!

What kind of boost was needed for that power, 4bar?

It would certainly be interesting to see what that turbo does as regards to lowdown grunt on a proper 2.5!
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Is it std fitment to std up/downpipes?
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Originally Posted by Shaun
MartynJ,
Excellent figures on VPower, well done to all involved!

What kind of boost was needed for that power, 4bar?

It would certainly be interesting to see what that turbo does as regards to lowdown grunt on a proper 2.5!
Boost was 1.9 bar flat, will run more and a couple of the EVO guys already are, running 2.2 bar midrange and 2 bar at the top end.
I agree Shaun, it would be good to see what it could do on a 2.5 with the Cossie heads and cams etc, maybe later .
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Originally Posted by dynamix
Is it std fitment to std up/downpipes?
It is standard fitment to the uppipe Duncan, but does require a custom downpipe. It has its own cast elbow which points downwards and requires welding to the existing downpipe, no biggy for any exhaust manufacturer but you know all this already. It is a damn sight cheaper than the alternatives though being some £500 less than a 321, 555, AET jobby.
Glad to see you are still happy with your turbo after your recent engine shenanigans, .
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Martyn,
Nothing out of the ordinary then regarding boost levels for this type of power. Get the 2.5 done!!!!!!

Should be getting my standard fit AET turbo put through it's paces on a Flywheel Dyno this weekend if I can find the time, to see what the new high compression engine build does relative to flywheel outputs against the previous engine. New engine recorded 486bhp at the hubs on VPower last month, running slightly less boost than you.
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Shaun, you hoping to make over 500bhp ATF this time Mine goes to pauls on sunday and I'm then hoping to join the 600 club
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I have to admit to being tempted to try one of the AET units Shaun, have spoken to Andy about it a couple of times now, just have to find the right car.
DD or Dastek dyno at the weekend ?
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Steve,
You never know.... it might fluke over 500bhp.... at the wheels!

Good luck on Sunday with the 600bhp. Should be barmy!

Martyn,
More cc's and higher compression is the future mate!

Dastek Dyno, as that houses a direct comparison to how the previous engine performed.
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Well fellas this time next year i will be in the 600 club,, got to get the engine built first so one step at a time then will have her mapped but got to find a good mapper who is fairly priced
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Looking for something fairly priced isn't a good start for 600, as you will realise how quick the ££'s start adding up
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jabbawockymark,
I certainly hope you are in the club next year, but sorry for sounding off but do you realise how much this will cost? As you have already jumped from 500bhp to 600bhp in a matter of 24hrs. Have you actually driven a REAL 500bhp Scoob, let alone a 600bhp? It's easy to say you want 600bhp.... but actually achieving it is entirely different.
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Originally Posted by Shaun
jabbawockymark,
I certainly hope you are in the club next year, but sorry for sounding off but do you realise how much this will cost? As you have already jumped from 500bhp to 600bhp in a matter of 24hrs. Have you actually driven a REAL 500bhp Scoob, let alone a 600bhp? It's easy to say you want 600bhp.... but actually achieving it is entirely different.
agree with you there shaun.

400 is a good target for the road and still reasonably affordable, 450 gets really expensive, 500 even more so and 600 is a completely different ball game and for the road is a waste of time IMO.
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500bhp is unusable on the road imo (well mine is, anyway near its performance limit), even in a lard **** Newage.... like Duncan, I can speak from experience.

As Duncan has said, I would say 400bhp for the road in a nice usable package.

Perhaps the OP is looking to race it though!


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