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Old 19 October 2008, 01:06 PM
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This is my money pit. Last year the car had a bad engine fire due to some very suspect wiring that had been done, at this point I decided I did not want the 2ltr engine in the car anymore and opted for a 2nd hand Chy Wright 2.5ltr closed deck block engine complete with sti5 heads which I purchased from Oldfella on this board. Chy is always concerned about his engines and I was told to give him a bell to talk about my plans for the engine etc. When I rang Chy he told me that any guarantees he had with the engine would pass onto me . The engine was dropped into the car complete with STI5 heads and the plan was to swap back to my AVCS heads at a later date. The car was taken to Scooby clinic where Pat was to map my car on the GT30r, unfortunately the car didn’t like running 2bar off boost as it kept losing power so it was mapped in at 1.5bar and it made 472bhp/440lbs.
Assuming it was a problem with the turbo holding the car back I went with the advice of Pat and put the GT35r with the .63 housing for better spool. This turbo was swapped over at Scooby clinic and Pat then mapped the car but it was still suffering from the same problem and kept losing power at 2bar. The car was then mapped to 1.5bar and it made 487bhp/480lbs. The car was starting to feel much better to drive but still needed more power. Pat presumed that it was the STI5 heads holding the cars power back, I then thought it would be better to get my AVCS heads prepared for going back onto the car. Lateral performance supplied me with some new custom spec cams and my heads were packaged off to ZEN where Paul advised me to fit up rated valves. The heads were shimmed in for the new cams and the new valves fitted.
The car was dropped off at fiends to complete the final stage of my mods which will be to pull the engine out and strip it down. The block will be going back to CHY as he wants to give the block a clean bill of health and it also needs some new rods fitted as the ones in the car now are currently only rated to 500bhp. Lateral Performance has supplied the new rods which will be fitted by Chy.

This is currently the stage I’m at at the moment. I’m looking forward to my AVCS heads going back on the car and hopefully seeing about 560bhp once mapped in properly. The car is in one piece still and is ready to be stripped down any day
Here is the car after it had its fire



This is how the car looks now, all the pipework was powder coated in red as it was easier than trying to get it back to silver



And here is the car now in its resting place for the last changes

Old 19 October 2008, 01:18 PM
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I don't think I have ever put the spec of my car up anywhere?? But here is a brief description of it as it stands at this minute


Bodywork and exterior

Prodrive Pff7's 225/40/18
Chargespeed rear diffuser, Chargespeed side skirts
Chargespeed front bumper, Chargespeed vented wings


Drivetrain


Act lightened flywheel (7kgs)
Act prolite clutch with heavy duty pressure plate


Engine


Short block supplied and built by Chy Wright, Pennine Subaru
EJ20 closed deck block, bored and re-lined to 2.5ltr
Lateral Performance Spec, forged Wiseco pistons
Lateral Performance "fast road" forged rods
ACL race series bearings, RCMS oil pump
All parts to blueprint, dry built and Plasti-gauged

Long Block and Ancillaries

Phase 2 Sti Heads, extensively ported for Lateral, Single piece Valves, Double valve springs, and custom retainers.
Lateral Head gaskets, RCMS 14mm head studs
Custom cams, RCM uprated oil pump
RCM inlet manifold spacers
RCM 210mm air filter and custom trumpet
Magnus inlet manifold Lateral slip jointed up pipe
Lateral down pipe, Garret GT35r turbo
turbosmart 38mm external wastegate with screamer pipe
Mocal catch tank
APS DR725 FMIC with red pipe work
HKS hyper 3" exhaust system

Fueling

Bosch 044 fuel pump, -6 Braided fuel hose throughout
740cc deautchworks flow tested and matched injectors
SX Fuel pressure regulator

Electronics and interior

Autronics ecu mapped by Pat Heborn, 4bar map sensor
Defi link system with 60mm bf Oil pressure, oil temp and manifold pressure
gauges, Apexi avcr monitoring boost and injector duty
Innovate motorsports wideband lamda
Pioneer AVH 6500 dvd player with avics sat nav system
Full Black leather trim

Suspension

Whiteline 24mm adjustable rear roll bar
Whiteline 22mm adjsutable front roll bar
Whiteline Anti lift kit

Brakes

AP 6 Pots with 330mm discs, Goodrige braided hoses all round
Standard rear brakes
Old 19 October 2008, 02:58 PM
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I think I remeber this from SS0 this year, looked nice, and went well too!

Any plans for a bigger turbo for the future?
Old 19 October 2008, 03:06 PM
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Hope all goes well for you fella, you deserve it to anyway.....
Old 19 October 2008, 06:27 PM
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It all depnds on how the car feels after its mapped, there is a 90% chance I will go for a bigger turbo or as a minimum a bigger housing .
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man thats oustanding, love the cooler pipes

are you minted lol
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hi steve MATE

no honestly the car looks well and we all no it goes well

what model/year heads have you went for?

and what bhp/torque are you looking for?

and will you and the car be entering any track days next year.

yours sincerely your good friend. FINN

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Finn, I am just putting my own heads back onto the car. They are the 2003 AVCS heads. I think realistically once mapped aqnd running say 2bar of boost it should be about 560bhp. I will definately enter a track day. You can do one in your new evo
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I first started work on Steve's car back in late 2006 early 2007 when Steve dropped the car off with me to have a twisted GT3076 fitted which he had bought from me, as i was moving on to a bigger turbo.

Steve also asked if i wouldnt mind sorting out a few other issues, like a faulty inlet manifold, and leaking fuel rails, both of which turned out to be a complete pain in the **** to sort out.

As my full time occupation comes first, Steve's car was worked on as and when time allowed, it also played 2nd fiddle to me getting my own car ready for Time Attack, but Steve knew this from the outset.

A couple of months past and Steve had his car back, and it was making reasonable power for a 2l and was reasonably entertaining to drive, but Steve wanted more.

I then got a call from Steve in April 07 to say that the car had set fire, see pic above, and he asked if i would mind sorting it out for him, which i didnt, so long as he was aware that it would be 2nd fiddle to my car and work.

After a total engine bay strip down, i had the car round to my friends garage for a respray, as well as the fitment of Steve's chargespeed front wings. When i got the car back, it looked pristine, and it soon became evident that i needed to be carefull with putting it back together.

In the meantime Steve had bought Oldfellas CDB 2.5 with STI5 heads, so Steve wanted this fitting instead. After completely stripping the loom back, and replacing damaged sections wherever possible, refitting all the engine bay works (eg brake lines, clutch cylinder, brake servo, etc, etc), all of which had to be cleaned or replaced due to fire damage, i finally got to stage of refitting the engine.

In went the engine, and what you see below is how it finished, after many many hours of work. It's an engine bay i am proud of, especially its state a good fe months earlier. Steve got his car back in October 2007.


I now have the car again, as you can see below, it's sat ready for dismantling again, parked in my shed next to my own Time Attack classic.


This time on the cards, the rods are being replaced, and the VVT heads are going back on, with a few other tweaks.

I asked Steve to start this thread, because it would then make me take pictures for him of the progress. Fingers crossed, that will happen

Steven
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I also purchased a baffled sump from AS performance, due to going rotated there was no need for me to have the twin scroll baffled sump I don't think I will bother with the oil cooler as its only a road car.

Steven time attack may well be finished for you now but your new move will take up even more of your time
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Originally Posted by stevebt
Finn, I am just putting my own heads back onto the car. They are the 2003 AVCS heads. I think realistically once mapped aqnd running say 2bar of boost it should be about 560bhp. I will definately enter a track day. You can do one in your new evo
evo who told you that

no evo coming hear matey

no honestly am sticking with scoobies now been down the evo route before

av now got the scooby engine removal down t 4 hours on me own,so am learning
more and more every job i do
dont think i will ever pretend i could map it like some nuggets pretend to do on other forums
will be leaving that bit to the experts
but a new project may soon be on the cards,will be starting from scratch and doing all the work myself this time

keep me uptodate with power figures after changing heads back to newage
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Welldone Steve...didn't know P20SPD was working on your car until this thread...my engine is currently at CHY to get a freshen up.
Old 23 October 2008, 10:34 AM
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Chy is doing the Rod change, as he whats to R&D the existing set up. Everything else, its down to me, mostly.

Strangely, its the only thing that gets me to switch off from my work!
Old 23 October 2008, 11:46 AM
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id still fit a token oil cooler steve if i were you, when the turbos get that bit even short bursts will cook up the oil quite quick. Believe me, i know.
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Awesome car m8, looked lovely up at Ten of the Best this year. I shall be keeping an eye on this thread for updates
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Steve Will hopefully see your car down at Chy's, are you planning on selling your current sti 5 heads?

Banny
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Originally Posted by banny sti
Steve Will hopefully see your car down at Chy's, are you planning on selling your current sti 5 heads?

Banny
Banny, i have said before, the car wont be going to Chy's, its just the short block thats going, nothing else.
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Awesome
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Banny the heads are provisionally sold, the lad must be a saint as he hasn't hassled me for them

Neil, I'm still unsure about the oil cooler as it hasn't went rediculously high yet??? plus its where to fit it ?
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Originally Posted by Fai17
Welldone Steve...didn't know P20SPD was working on your car until this thread...my engine is currently at CHY to get a freshen up.

Its amazing how good steven is considering its just a hobby to him
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Lusky sod for getting cheap labour...maybe!!
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Steve have you thought about ceramic coating the up and down pipes?

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It never crossed my mind, is there much benefit from doing this ??
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Originally Posted by stevebt
It never crossed my mind, is there much benefit from doing this ??
Yes, much better than wrap as it not only retains more the heat in the system but it also lasts a hell of a lot longer.

Retaining heat in the system improves gas speed and hence exhaust system efficiency to the benefit of spool and overall performance.
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Originally Posted by Tim W
Yes, much better than wrap as it not only retains more the heat in the system but it also lasts a hell of a lot longer.

Retaining heat in the system improves gas speed and hence exhaust system efficiency to the benefit of spool and overall performance.

Who is best for doing this at the cheapest rates Tim?
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Not sure myself to be honest, it is neater, but i wouldnt say it matches the total heat retention quality of GOOD exhaust wrap.

In terms of cost, i have used Woof Technologies on mine, and would use them again, they are the same people who do the RCMS stuff, and are based in the centre of Bradford. WOOF THERMAL MANAGEMENT TECHNOLOGY LIMITED information filed as at Saturday 25th October 2008. Registered number 05475880 Tel 0870 7508833 and speak to John

Your looking at best part of £500 for headers, up pipe, down pipe and exhaust housing.

There is also Zircotec.
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Zircotec were talking similar money for the same parts, but including a coloured sealing coat.

One day I'll get them done...
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Is it worth the money?
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If you plan to keep the car in the same exhaust spec for several years (2+) then yes, if you're likely to readily chop and change or get bored and sell the car on then no, probably not, the cost is considerably higher than wrap in the short term, but wrap will need replacing at some point


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