v8scooby

recently i knackerd my fwd 1.6 impreza gearbox. and as i value the car at around £800 and a gearbox was going to cost me upwards of £200. i decided not to bother.

i replaced the car with a big beemer, and parked the scooby up in the garden. then after a few stellas and a couple of v8 vids on youtube i was convinced the only way forward was too save the GOOD shel and make a rwd toy for the track. so off to ebay i went and now i have a 3500 rover v8 in a million bits in my workshop. i still need too buy the matching gearbox, and rear axle, subframe, suspension setup and disk brakes off of a 4x4 impreza (see my wanted add) https://www.scoobynet.com/wanted-18/...rop-shaft.html

ive got the engine and box out and even had the v8 assembled under the bonnet to make sure it all fits. it does but only just and the carbs were not on the manifold. so a small bulge will be needed to cover them.

i'm new to this forum and dont know if pics and links are allowed. admin just say so and i'l remove them if need be.



the engines not sitting as far back as it will be. before anyone points it out

lots of pics and the full story over on the v8 forum
www.v-8.org.uk :: View topic - the scoobaru ---- warning to 56k modem users

your comments, and any tecnical sugestions welcome
George

but remember! its just for the banter

joey_turbo

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Interesting!
Look forward to hearing about how it goes.

KIPS

WE LIKE PLENTY OF PICS
You may get the purists have a dig but the boys who grew up with hot rods will know were your coming from (ay911) good luck with your project should be able to source some good advice on here
kip

SPEN555

Excellent Project, something different

KIPS

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scoobysmiff

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you might get away with it if you put a pair TD05's on it

911

Who mentioned Hot Rods?

Rover V8 is the best one made, light and full of torque!

The cooling could be an issue unless you mount a rad in the boot floor and duct air, but add 2 big fans also for when it is standing still.

In stock form the rear Impreza diff should be ok, but if you can get the stronger R180 diff/rear suspension complete if you can.
Better shafts and brakes too with this assembly.

Will the exhaust headers missthe steering? If so you are lucky as that is the usual stumbling block.

Very interesting project indeed, and you should make quick progress.

SD1 5 speeder?
Vitesse fuel injection is lower I think and neater than the carbs. Is the engine a Ronge Rover or SD1?

Will be following you!

cmpequeno

subscribed it looks interesting good luck your project

CrisPDuk

Try these guys for your rear axle:

Welcome Page

They are really helpful and won't rip you off. Most of the upgrade bits on my Legacy have come from them

I'd echo what 911 said about fitting injection too SUs are old hat, and they were crap when thy were new hat Obviously this depends on your budget, but rather than use the sh!tty Lucas stuff why not get a mappable set-up

Not sure why 911 thinks cooling would be an issue though With the block pushed back a bit you should have plenty of room for a turbo rad, which should easily handle the demands of the new motor, unless you are radically uprating it of course. An oil cooler would probably be a Good Thing though

One last thing, Good Luck, and don't forget to keep us updated

KIPS

Thought this might interest you been old school an al that

KIP

911

That's a complement. Old Skhool instead of VERY old Sckool...however it's spelt.

There looks to be little room for the rad, BUT with the Impreza box in there, so with a Rover/Jag box it can go much further back as the tunnel is huge.
I would think the gear lever could 'fall' to hand well if you are lucky.

Hot Rods keep on cropping up and are a serious distraction. Must open the photo album to my 1930 Model A Ford, 3'' chop with Rover V8 and Jag S type suspension, now that was a real car, sold for the 911...

Hope V8scooby can keep us amused!

Graham.

KIPS

Just missed out on the hot rod seen grew up readin hotrod n custom car
whatever hapend to the deep dish appliance five spokes and general grabbers big side exhaust an the v8 engine chromed jag axals and the vaux ha steering gear

hoping this project comes together be nice to see something differn't from the mainstream projects its good to be differnt

KIP

v8scooby

cheers for the replys folks.

at the end of the day its just for a laugh. realisticly it wasnt worth puting the car back on the road as a 1.6 but the body is in perfect nick except for a few wee scrapes and dents here and there. ive looked under mines and a wrx and all the rear suspension bolt holes look to be in the same place. ( i gather subaru didnt waste too mutch money developing the fwd model) so with a bit of luck it will all cross over ok. the rover gearbox is small and although i dont have one yet to try, there looks to be enough space in the tunnel.

gotta get back to work now, but i'l have a look through your links later
George

CrisPDuk

Subaru didn't waste any money developing the fwd model They merely didn't bother installing the driveline backwards from the box, and fitted flimsier suspension bits
I don't think even the gearbox internals are that much different, except for where they removed the viscous coupling and bunged the hole up


Which brings me to an off track thought. Can you get the V8 in with the scoob box in situ

dj-ewen

Hey V8 Scooby im new to this site also. I have just bought a 1.6 fwd scoob and have posted a link in the STYLING collum marked FRONT END UPGRADE. Could you help me out here?

All input welcome

Good luck with the project!

Cheers Dave

911

Forgive me V8 scooby, but you might find 2 of the pics of interest, but the box is an auto.
The others are for Kip as he obviously understands Hot Rods.
Promise not to do this again!






Graham

RON

You're showing your age again Graham.......!!

Interesting project this eh!!!

KIPS

Thats when cars were cars and mullets were mullets spoted the rs 2000 in the background I always liked the classic capri think it was a fast back the right early one
you should do a thread in other marques

SORRY V8 BACK ON SUBJECT
KIP

v8scooby

i verry mutch doubt it. although plan A was to convert the car to 4x4 spec like all of yours, then make an adaptor plate to couple the v8 and scooby box. plan A didnt last too long when i realised it would be more fun on the drift track, and faster off the 1/4 line as a RWD. down side is it will not perform aswell off road. but i'm not into rallying lol

v8 under the bonnet with subaru box still in

and the watter pump assembly's not on the front! it takes another 6 or 7 inches
see


so i really need to use the small LT77 rover box tucked as far back the tranny tunnel as i can get it. having all that weight infront of the front axle will be seriousley NOT funny to try and drive lol

as requested - you like pics - here you go
as it was when i collected it

baby boxer 1.6

rear can gave the car an allmost as loud note as local wrx's it just didnt go tshhhhhhhh lol

i stuck a set of rims on it, clear side repeater lenses and cut some front foggys into the ugly bumper to give it a slight improvement

then i got carried away and wasted my money on some graphics that are now half removed




ive painted the dials facia and needles

and given it some leds for night time. - the pic dosent do any justice on this. it looks 100 times better in real life

and it has a set of cobras in it now too.

infact to the untrained eye (eg the wifes palls) i have a minted scooby
atleast it will be somthing to talk about once the v8's in and running




and just as you all like too look at photo's, heres what i'm having to drive now

i fixed it as a write off but still needs painted the right colour

its just as thirsty as a wrx bmw 2.5 inline 6




as usual your comments welcome
George

911

You are getting distracted from the task!

I am sure the smaller SD1 box from the V8 Vitesse would cure all manner of problems, bit tricky to find in good condition maybe?
You do need to come right back to say the least if you want to run that pump.
Considered a remote electric one instead?
This was why i mentioned the rad in the back boot panel with fans, but get that engine sat back will clear the weight bias as well as all the practical issues of cooling.
It will also get the exhaust manifold outlets behind the cross member (remember that steering shaft/uj's).
The exhaust system needs to keep the cross balance pipe so that glorious V8 sound is there and the engine runs well.
I say this as gound clearance might be an issue. The replacement exhaust for the SD1 is quite small diameter but double skinned sometimes so bloody hard to cut and shut to fit foreign floor pans!

Beware of the exhaust system, one of the hardest parts of such a project and so easily forgotten.

Been there on several occations...
Graham.

CrisPDuk

Ah yes, so I see A good point well made You'd likely end up with distinctly Audi-esque handling traits too with all that weight slung out front
As you say RWD is more fun anyway, so it's no great problem

BTW, I agree with Graham about the water pump too, go electric, you know it makes sense

One last comment, and you did say they were welcome Bin the graphics, Q-Car is definitely the way to go with this puppy I reckon

Rice Rocket

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HOT ROD SCOOB!!! SUPERB!!!

Great job and looking forward to seing the finished beast!
Matt black with some nice flames!! will look the biz!!

S!

v8scooby

kandi red, and wide rear arches is the final touch on my list.

its along way off that tho.

i probably will go efi rather than twin su carbs. unless i see a cheep holly carb on fleebay.

as for the watter pump. nothings planned yet. i really need to get the engine with box in place and see how the stock pump fits. they can be shortend slightly too i'm told. but if its gonna be an issue, i have considerd fitting a remote belt driven pump or even electric.
its a low budget project. so the latter is probably out the question

so far the car, all the other bits, and v8 hasnt cost me £1500. i know that values about to change but hopefully not too mutch. as i have the use of a lathe, milling machine and welder. infact the only thing other than parts i may need to pay out on is any ally welding that may need done modifying the watter pump housing

cheers again people. dont be shy to point out any hurdels you see. i have many ideas how to work my way round things but i might have missed somthing
i'm always greatfull.

cris the stickers will all be off when i get some warm weather up in scotland here. they just rip into tiny peices if i try it in the cold lol

911 i know a bit about V exhausts dads run vtwin bikes for years

cheers again
George

Tidgy

while the idea sounds pretty cool, i think it might seriously affect the handeling of the scoob. the v8 will have a much higher centre of gravity???? which is one fo the reasons scoobs handel so well, low centre of gravity.

or isn't it that much different?

twas just a passing thought i had

911

The rover V8 is about as heavy as an MGB 4 pot, so will be heavy compared to a, Impreza flat 4.
This is why i was puzzling about the exhaust and the engine sitting low as possible making the system hard work.

I think you need to get the box and drop it in to see what you have.

Good stuff. Brings back a lot of memories.

Graham

wrx-kris

nice project mate,
can you not use an omega MV6 manual box? they arnt that big iirc....

v8scooby

ive not had mutch time on the project, wifes been poorly, and weathers p1sh
a few weeks ago i started to remove the wiring and found it to be bolted to the bulkhead behind the heater box, so an hour or so saw the dash and heater box out.

everything seems to be in the one loom so i'l carefully remove everything i'l need fore lights, wipers, horn ect... and re install it into the car



ive had the subaru box out for some time now, but had'nt got round to trying the v8 back in again. so a week ago i threw it all together again and tried it in, ive left more than enough room to bolt on the LT77 gearbox i still intend to use and the watter pumps just fitting, so i'm happy (the v8 experts say mines is the longer landrover watter pump, and i can get a rover-car watter pump a few inches shorter)





again, the v8 will fit no probmem, but once i fit an EFI manifold, or holley carb with filter, i wont be able to close the bonnet, so i ordered this cowling
it needs a bit of fabricating to make it fit ofcourse





opinnions welcome as usual

George

T5OLF

iTrader: (4)

The cowling looks pish mate. Can you not use a impreza bonnet? the scoop would sit over the SU's would it not.

I had a TR7 V8 many years ago and the bonnet just had 2 small vents for the SU's. The carbs just had small K&N filters on the end.

v8scooby

not using su's there too old, it will be EFI or a holley 4 barrel carb (you know the american style) both will need more than the impreza's scoop

i want the car too be somthing different

George

bohnjegley

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