TRACK CAR
#1
TRACK CAR ****NOW WITH FOTO'S****
LAST YEAR WE RACED A VAUXAWFUL VECTRA #668
http://tinypic.com/vgn68
WE DID OK GOT A FEW TROPHIES !!!!
http://tinypic.com/vgncw
AS YOU CAN SEE WE TAKE A BATTERING
BUT THIS YEAR WE WANTED MORE
SO WE BOUGHT A SCOOBY FROM JAPAN
ITS BEEN STRIPPED TO ALMOST A ROLLING SHELL
http://tinypic.com/vgneo
GONE TO THE SPARKY'S FOR THE REST OF THE WIRING TAKEN OUT
SHOULD BE BACK FOR WEEKEND
CAN I PLEASE HAVE SOME CHEEPISH MODS AND IMPROVEMENT IDEAS FROM KNOWLEDGEABLE ONES ON SCOOBYNET
I WAS GOING TO MOVE THE IC INSIDE THE CAR MOUNTED ON THE SCUTTLE PANEL BEHIND MY MESH WINDSCREEN TO KEEP IT COOL
AND PUT A COMPETITION FUEL PUMP ON BUT WHAT PRESSURE ???
ANY MODDS CONSIDERED AND APPRECIATED
I DONT KNOW HOW TO PUT FOTO'S ON OR I WOULD SHOW YOU LAST YEARS CAR AND KEEP YOU UP DATED WITH PROGRESS
THANX IN ADVANCE
PETER
http://tinypic.com/vgn68
WE DID OK GOT A FEW TROPHIES !!!!
http://tinypic.com/vgncw
AS YOU CAN SEE WE TAKE A BATTERING
BUT THIS YEAR WE WANTED MORE
SO WE BOUGHT A SCOOBY FROM JAPAN
ITS BEEN STRIPPED TO ALMOST A ROLLING SHELL
http://tinypic.com/vgneo
GONE TO THE SPARKY'S FOR THE REST OF THE WIRING TAKEN OUT
SHOULD BE BACK FOR WEEKEND
CAN I PLEASE HAVE SOME CHEEPISH MODS AND IMPROVEMENT IDEAS FROM KNOWLEDGEABLE ONES ON SCOOBYNET
I WAS GOING TO MOVE THE IC INSIDE THE CAR MOUNTED ON THE SCUTTLE PANEL BEHIND MY MESH WINDSCREEN TO KEEP IT COOL
AND PUT A COMPETITION FUEL PUMP ON BUT WHAT PRESSURE ???
ANY MODDS CONSIDERED AND APPRECIATED
I DONT KNOW HOW TO PUT FOTO'S ON OR I WOULD SHOW YOU LAST YEARS CAR AND KEEP YOU UP DATED WITH PROGRESS
THANX IN ADVANCE
PETER
Last edited by wantascoobydoo; 09 December 2004 at 07:06 PM.
#2
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all depends on what you're starting with, is it a completely standard?
obvious starting points are exhaust, remap if you're altering fueling etc., better brakes if it's using 2 pots
IC placement sounds like a lot of hard work, bigger TMIC or FMIC would be easier
obvious starting points are exhaust, remap if you're altering fueling etc., better brakes if it's using 2 pots
IC placement sounds like a lot of hard work, bigger TMIC or FMIC would be easier
#4
flat 4 yes the car is standard jappy spec
280 bhp i believe ic moved into car seemed good idea so it doesnt get hot nder racing conditions. in answer to 911 we are doing tarmac oval racing cornering at about 30 mph accelerating up to 65 - 70 down the strait
need good acceleration from 30 to get me out the corner PDQ !!
got some black diamond ( i think) and greenstuff pads all round coming same as we had in the vectra no compliant on stopping with these in
wots a tmic or fmic ?????
thanx
peter
280 bhp i believe ic moved into car seemed good idea so it doesnt get hot nder racing conditions. in answer to 911 we are doing tarmac oval racing cornering at about 30 mph accelerating up to 65 - 70 down the strait
need good acceleration from 30 to get me out the corner PDQ !!
got some black diamond ( i think) and greenstuff pads all round coming same as we had in the vectra no compliant on stopping with these in
wots a tmic or fmic ?????
thanx
peter
#6
Ahhhh...Hendsford Hills Raceway in Cannock...what memories in the 70's!
I would think some good roll bars with adjustable links to bias the body for the right turns, the right turns and the right turns....
RA gear box would be a good move for very short gears, 600mm or smaller wheel diameter (mine are 590mm on 16's)
I would think that will be a good package!
Good luck, 911
I would think some good roll bars with adjustable links to bias the body for the right turns, the right turns and the right turns....
RA gear box would be a good move for very short gears, 600mm or smaller wheel diameter (mine are 590mm on 16's)
I would think that will be a good package!
Good luck, 911
#7
thanx 911 i need allthe luck i can get
dyney fmic no good cos its a contact sport wouldnt want to be breaking that good old reliable intercooler would we now
i think still gonna put in the car out the way of that hoorible heat and worse still damage
thanx chaps
peter
dyney fmic no good cos its a contact sport wouldnt want to be breaking that good old reliable intercooler would we now
i think still gonna put in the car out the way of that hoorible heat and worse still damage
thanx chaps
peter
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#9
dyney fmic no good cos its a contact sport wouldnt want to be breaking that good old reliable intercooler would we now
#10
An RSJ will fix that.....makes a great bumper/nudge bar /cam belt protector.
Why not a good size (Sti8) TMIC and a serious scoop?
Oval racing is about 10 laps? Should be ok for that?
Set up a (big) waterspray tank for it with pleanty of ice and off you go?
Simple, and the TMIC is in the safest place!
Good game!
911
Why not a good size (Sti8) TMIC and a serious scoop?
Oval racing is about 10 laps? Should be ok for that?
Set up a (big) waterspray tank for it with pleanty of ice and off you go?
Simple, and the TMIC is in the safest place!
Good game!
911
#11
Scooby Regular
Peter,
I would stick with the std IC as the pipe runs will be a disadvantage if you remotely mount it.
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I would stick with the std IC as the pipe runs will be a disadvantage if you remotely mount it.
Instructions on Pic uploading: http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=382701
#13
911
moving the ic into the car stood up just behind the mesh covered windscreen will be easier than a FMIC and surely more efficient than a water sprayed top mount to get it further away from the heat
only needs two holes in the bulkhead with steel pipes from the engine to the ic wrapped in heat shield and foil to keep them cool ???????
less heat more BHP ?????
thanx
peter
moving the ic into the car stood up just behind the mesh covered windscreen will be easier than a FMIC and surely more efficient than a water sprayed top mount to get it further away from the heat
only needs two holes in the bulkhead with steel pipes from the engine to the ic wrapped in heat shield and foil to keep them cool ???????
less heat more BHP ?????
thanx
peter
#14
\m/ ^_^ \m/
well, it would be good to see you pull it off that's what projects is all about
i guess if your bonnet gets nudged then the scoop isn't going to work to weel on the TMIC
i guess if your bonnet gets nudged then the scoop isn't going to work to weel on the TMIC
#15
Look at all those wires!
Get all that copper out and it will weigh nothing.
I was sure Dirt track ovals went clockwise!
Still think a drenched TMIC is the best (sorry), but as Flat says, Projects are all about this kind of thing!
I would be interested to see just how much weight you can get out of a Scooby in the end, but you must get to 1000Kg without the glass/window mechs and such-like?
Keep us up to date.(and loads of pics too)
911
Get all that copper out and it will weigh nothing.
I was sure Dirt track ovals went clockwise!
Still think a drenched TMIC is the best (sorry), but as Flat says, Projects are all about this kind of thing!
I would be interested to see just how much weight you can get out of a Scooby in the end, but you must get to 1000Kg without the glass/window mechs and such-like?
Keep us up to date.(and loads of pics too)
911
#17
Scooby Regular
Ahhh! Now I see where your coming from
How much front strengthening is allowed?
Putting the intercooler upright in the windscreen area should work. Bit like a font mount but further back Just keep the bonnet smooth so the air flow isn't disrupted before it gets to it.
If your prepared to cut holes in the bulkhead (I guess you are ) then the pipe runs could be quite short. Much shorter than a FMIC!
What year is the car as by the seats it looks like an early WRX. Not sure they are 280bhp though More like 240/260 but with a few mods 280 can be got easily and with the weight loss it should be pretty rapid
How much front strengthening is allowed?
Putting the intercooler upright in the windscreen area should work. Bit like a font mount but further back Just keep the bonnet smooth so the air flow isn't disrupted before it gets to it.
If your prepared to cut holes in the bulkhead (I guess you are ) then the pipe runs could be quite short. Much shorter than a FMIC!
What year is the car as by the seats it looks like an early WRX. Not sure they are 280bhp though More like 240/260 but with a few mods 280 can be got easily and with the weight loss it should be pretty rapid
#18
thanx for the support lads
car is a 1994 wrx direct from japan
we are racing anticlockwise on TARMAC
but i have to dump the 4WD fpr RWD
got the details of staka off rexnet
will post some more picys in a aweek or so when we get it back from sparkys
ttfn
peter
car is a 1994 wrx direct from japan
we are racing anticlockwise on TARMAC
but i have to dump the 4WD fpr RWD
got the details of staka off rexnet
will post some more picys in a aweek or so when we get it back from sparkys
ttfn
peter
#19
How about running a charge cooler instead?
Mount the charge cooler rad in the back with ducts to feed it, that way you keep the short turbo to cooler pipe runs, project the cooling system and negate the problems of a bonnet scoop being blocked....oh and add a CO2 spray for extra cooling
Mount the charge cooler rad in the back with ducts to feed it, that way you keep the short turbo to cooler pipe runs, project the cooling system and negate the problems of a bonnet scoop being blocked....oh and add a CO2 spray for extra cooling
#20
Originally Posted by Tim W
How about running a charge cooler instead?
Mount the charge cooler rad in the back with ducts to feed it, that way you keep the short turbo to cooler pipe runs, project the cooling system and negate the problems of a bonnet scoop being blocked....oh and add a CO2 spray for extra cooling
Mount the charge cooler rad in the back with ducts to feed it, that way you keep the short turbo to cooler pipe runs, project the cooling system and negate the problems of a bonnet scoop being blocked....oh and add a CO2 spray for extra cooling
please tell me more
i am interested
need to get rid of all that heat
thanx
#21
Basically as I see it your not running any glass, so there's a fair bit of air flow through the cabin, so as I see it there's not much to stop you fitting the radiator section of a charge cooler where the rear seat backrest used to be.
The early Legacy turbos ran a water cooled charge cooler system instead of a top mounted intercooler. Basically theres a cooling tank mounted where the top mount would have been and a small radiator that sits infront of the main engine radiator, an electric pump circulates the coolant.
Some pics here showing the charge cooler tank next to the stock top mount plus it all being mount in a Beetle based Porsche 356 Speedster replica.
Andy Forrest (Andy F) originally built his own charge cooler system as an experiment on his RA a few years ago.
There's also some useful stuff here: http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~gavinp/airwater.htm
The early Legacy turbos ran a water cooled charge cooler system instead of a top mounted intercooler. Basically theres a cooling tank mounted where the top mount would have been and a small radiator that sits infront of the main engine radiator, an electric pump circulates the coolant.
Some pics here showing the charge cooler tank next to the stock top mount plus it all being mount in a Beetle based Porsche 356 Speedster replica.
Andy Forrest (Andy F) originally built his own charge cooler system as an experiment on his RA a few years ago.
There's also some useful stuff here: http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~gavinp/airwater.htm
#23
Originally Posted by gljam
I see you've still got the sound deadening on the floor in the car, get a paint scraper to it and that'll save you a couple of kilo's
tried that last time
YOU OFFERING A HELPIN HAND
THANX
peter
#29
no we dont need any exausts
but i have aquired a HKS front pipe
i was gonna do the front pipe flange opening conversion to it then fit it
http://tinypic.com/wiwz7
and remove the cat converter
got the details from some tuning place
hopfully that should do me
i was also going to make a striat through box to go over the end of the pipe to see wott difference it made while on the rolling road
mite need some back pressure ?????????
but i have aquired a HKS front pipe
i was gonna do the front pipe flange opening conversion to it then fit it
http://tinypic.com/wiwz7
and remove the cat converter
got the details from some tuning place
hopfully that should do me
i was also going to make a striat through box to go over the end of the pipe to see wott difference it made while on the rolling road
mite need some back pressure ?????????
Last edited by wantascoobydoo; 13 December 2004 at 06:53 PM.
#30
\m/ ^_^ \m/
it's a turbo, no back pressure needed, you could run with just the downpipe and a side exit exhaust if you so wished but it's extremely loud