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Old 27 September 2012, 09:05 PM
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Again thinking of getting rid of my Subaru type r and thinking of replacing with a 350z or a 330 convertible ? I know there not gonna be no way as quick but why they like in general , mpg,ok power to lol, reliability ? Cheers rob
Old 27 September 2012, 10:03 PM
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I don't know much about the beemer but the 350z will drink like a scoob eat rear tires for fun isn't really that fast and in convertible form is ugly as sin in my opinion
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Can't use fuel like a Scoob . Nothing does . Are they really that bad ?
Old 27 September 2012, 10:09 PM
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A friend had one and said 16mpg was average round town and struggled to get above 22 on a run
Old 27 September 2012, 10:19 PM
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The BMW will be a lot nicer place to sit in, and will have more room inside with it been a 4 seater convertible. I almost bought a 350Z convertible when first came out but was surprised amongst other things how little room it has inside - seem to be all bonnet. And does not feel that fast or special, but I'm told its a car that get under your skin - short test drive is not enough. A bit of a marmite car.

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Old 27 September 2012, 10:24 PM
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The BMW is I drove my mates the other day not fast but nice comfy ride . I just want a car i can leave alone and not have to mod and spend thousands on lol
Old 27 September 2012, 10:55 PM
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Old 27 September 2012, 11:14 PM
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Only 23 lol but getting bord of spending thousands on modding a 380 bhp type r is fun but need half normal car I think I need to save .
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My mate has a BMW and gets 19mpg around town. When it comes to looks though, the BMW is much better than the Z convertible in my opinion, Zs should only be bought with a solid roof!! Performance wise, neither are going to be what your used to, 0-60 of the BMW I think is mid 6s and the Z about 6.
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Personally if I was getting an e46 cab I'd get a small engine or 320d. As stated the 330 is slow anyway do why not get a slow one with better economy?

If you're coming from a 380 bhp type r even the m3 will feel slow. Why pay more insurance and fuel for a slow car with a big engine.
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winters coming, rather be in a scooby.
Old 28 September 2012, 10:21 AM
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Ive had a 350z coupe and a 325 convertible, 2 totally different cars, neither compare to the scoob though!

I used to get 18mpg average around town in the BMW, and worse in the 350z, but the 350z was better than the BMW on long runs.

in general the bmw is a nicer, more chilled relaxed comfy car, bit of power there if you need it but not delivered in a sporty way at all. Id class it as the sporty car for non car fans... if that makes sense. Ultimatley its a great all rounder but kind of boring...

The 350z is less luxury, but something about it was amazing, more enjoyable. I did have the veilside bodykit on it which i loved, and will probably sway my opinion, but in general i prefered the Z. Only problem is 2 seater just wasnt practical, and i had to have a second car due to this. Only thing i will say is i had a K1 exhaust on my Z and oh my god it sounded unbelievable. Other than a scooby its one of the best sounds a car can make!!
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once you are into modding you will never be able to stop, i bought my wrx to use as a daily so i didint have to drive my 330bhp modded volvo s70r everyday, less than 12 hrs later after getting it home i had fitted a 3" turbo back exhaust lol. once its in your blood you cannot drive a standard car anymore.
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Neither.......e46 m3 are cheap now , probs have 100k but if backed up with history miles are nothing

And the 350's are for gayers or bimbo's
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Once you are into modding you can stop or learn your lessons and be more sensible with how you mod. In the last 6 years, the only mods I have done have been remaps. Whereas in the 5 years I had my Impreza I had about 10 different turbos, 4 gearboxes, 3 intercoolers, 3 lots of injectors, 6 engines, 3 suspensions, 2 lots of brakes etc.
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I would never choose a 330 over a 350z, the 350z looks special and IMO is a lovely car to drive.
The BMW, just looks like every other BMW on the road, nothing special about it.

I would have the hard top in either case though.
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I was lookin at hard top 350z tho in convertible look terrible. As some of you have said the fuel is terrible in the 330 s to. I also still have my love for s2000 s but the lack of torque would kill me . There such good looking car s but just no power also insurance was 500 more on the s2000 than 350 hard top with 313 bhp lol

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i had a removeable hard top for my 325 convertible, was great for winter, looked great with it on to.
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I also think that the 350z looks stands out far more than the BMW which will blend in and disappear. The 350z will get you noticed more if you like that kind of thing.

I saw a 350Z hard top in the garage the other day with a subtle body kit on (not some OTT nonsense) and it looked fantastic, almost 911 in its proportions. With the additional engine enhancements he was fitting he have a car so much more special than a 330 BMW.

Anyway its an odd comparison 330BMW and 350z. Shouldnt it be 3.0 Z4 and 350z?
Old 29 September 2012, 03:16 PM
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Yea prob should lol it's just I drove one and was like I quite like this but BMW be far to boring I think . I really need to drive a s2k has any of u guys got one ?
Old 29 September 2012, 03:20 PM
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Got, no. Had, yes. Great car, lots of fun - highly recommended. You can get a nice 2004+ for around £7,500 today, which is of interest I have to say.
Old 29 September 2012, 05:08 PM
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and it wont break down as much, although checking out the tracking bolts (Im not sure of the technical name) would be worth while as they seize and cost some money to put right but this is the only thing that owners seem to complain about and half the time they never even realise. Compared to the BMW its bullet proof and far cooler.

I test drove one, very nearly bought one but for me the interior and the torque of the 3.0 Z4 was more appealing. In the end I got neither as I couldnt make up my mind before my wife fell pregnant which is what led me to getting an Impreza and this forum.
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I had an S2000, that was a great car. I took it in px and just intended to punt it on but I really liked it.

Don't be too put off if it feels skittish. Mine was lethal at first but the tyres were worn on the insides and the geometry wasn't right. I got new tyres all round and geo done, it was rock solid after.
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so was a good car once geo had been set up . i need to find 1 see that i fit first lol. good mpg?
Old 30 September 2012, 09:22 AM
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Have a look on the S2000 forums. This geo/tracking is what sometimes siezes. Its around 4 years ago now so I cant remember the details but its something to do with one of the bolts used to adjust the geometry is trapped meaning you have to take the frame off to get it off - something like £1000 labour. This only needs to be done if its seized though and if caught early enough can be greased and treated to prevent it becoming an issue later.

This is worst case and there are a few specialists that can sheer the bolt off, drill it out and replace them upside down, a relatively small job so. I remember that this was the only problem that got flagged up really and as mentioned many people dont actually bother with geo set ups so are blissfully unaware of any issue. Compare that to multitude of faults you will find on the Mercedes, BMW and Audi forums and its enough to make you look at the Honda first every time.
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Originally Posted by Blue and Gold
A friend had one and said 16mpg was average round town and struggled to get above 22 on a run
Your "friend" must have been driving like an absolute **** then, I've had mine for 18 months and have never had such low numbers for mpg. I regularly get between 28 and 35mpg and that's calculated not just the mpg monitor on the car.

As for tyres, that's crap as well, I did 15,000 miles on the Pirelli P-Zeros in the first 12 months (2 trips to Plymouth every month for a year + normal driving) and there's still loads of tread on them, it's just passed the mot with them on.

They don't "feel" fast because they're a GT car, not an out 'n out performance car like Imprezas etc, that's what people seem to forget. They can be made quicker with a few easy mods too.
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Originally Posted by john banks
Once you are into modding you can stop or learn your lessons and be more sensible with how you mod. In the last 6 years, the only mods I have done have been remaps. Whereas in the 5 years I had my Impreza I had about 10 different turbos, 4 gearboxes, 3 intercoolers, 3 lots of injectors, 6 engines, 3 suspensions, 2 lots of brakes etc.
Wise words. - Been there done that also, and pound for pound and real world gains, very often only the mildest of mods, are needed and give the biggest gains over stock...
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