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Old 09 May 2002, 09:27 PM
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Hi peeps

it's official today @ Bruntingthorpe that Martin Hadlands Escort Cossie does,

0-100 MPH in 7.6 seconds fastest cossie in the land

Please no rude remarks thank you

Old 09 May 2002, 09:28 PM
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Old 09 May 2002, 09:34 PM
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not bad. usefull that isnt it. LOL
Old 09 May 2002, 09:55 PM
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Yea lol John
Old 09 May 2002, 11:57 PM
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About the same as an f40, quite unreal,will it be in a mag? as I will have to read about it when its out.
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F'n quick no question but how much has that car cost to build

Any truth in the tale I heard that it's about to get a £10k gearbox fitted

ps You can buy my complete scoob for £ 9k and it does the 1/4 in 11.8 (time slips to prove)

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Old 10 May 2002, 12:34 AM
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green scooby the car has already been featured in mags

the last time as in performance ford dec 2001 issue.

today's times were done for redline magazine as part of thier 'redline records day' so the even will probably be in redline mag soon

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Old 10 May 2002, 12:53 AM
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i should have entered my sport.
Old 10 May 2002, 01:27 AM
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That car has been featured in a few mags. I think 1/4 's were more closer to 10 secs. speeds 120+ It was also tested against a lightly modified fireblade for a bike mag. The fireblade got stuffed. He also has the green cossie mondeo which is a little slower due to being a more road based car. The escort is a stripped out lightweight type.. And lets face it, it is still a piece of turd escort. Ive driven a few, and they dont even compare. 500bhp in a crap car, just makes it a fast crap car. Fair game to martin though, there arent many other cars around that go quite as quick, especially road legal ones.
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Is this the same car that holds the record for towing a caravan at some ridiculus speed?

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Old 10 May 2002, 08:52 AM
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Yes thats the same car and it also clocked 188mph how many scoobs can do that? that car is absolutely awesome to watch in action and anyone slagging it off a) doesn't know what they are talking about or b) hasn't seen it in action Ok escort cossies aren't my favourite car but there is no way you can knock this car and there is no way any scoob on here could beat the performance. Respect ALL fast cars and accept that scoobs aren't GOD of performance cars [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
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Those that understand what Imprezas are really about do not think they are 'God of all performance cars' at all.
Nothing like a stereotypical, ignorant opinion is there?
Like people who think 'Cossies' are crap. They're clearly not at all. Some guys in the US built a 1000bhp (yes, that's right a grand) that was road legal but only had a small lock-to-lock turn to run the 1/4 v. v. fast. I don't recall the times and I won't 'guess' as some people on here seem to about what they may have been as this tends to lead to a whiff of BS around the place. Lets just say that it would destroy that Escort Cosworth and lets also bear in mind that @ sub 8secs to 100mph 0.2secs is an awful lot.
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10k isnt really that much to pay for a gearbox...Honest...Please someone back me on this one as I am finding it hard to justify it to the bank manager… I bought a gearbox from Gemini transmissions they were a little more expensive than the likes of the deals I could get from Quaife and Hewland, but the GT box was a direct replacement and therefore required no relocations of engine and gearbox mounts..Plus it weighed only 33kgs as opposed to the 50kgs of the standard box.

Not too mad really
Old 10 May 2002, 09:20 AM
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Does anyone know the slowest 0-60 production car in existance today?

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The BMW Z3!!! LOL for what you pay for it I think it gets there in about 10 secs
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Our little Atom will beat the like of that...And although the bikes are designed to go round corners...The cars will have them on most occasions
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Martin's Escort was in last month's CCC track day car test too. I met him at Anglesea, nice bloke.

Car was not suited to a twisty circuit due to the massive turbo lag. Then it blew the box up.

I bet it would be stunning at Dono or Snet.

A lot less fun in the wet I imagine, as the testers were complaining about power increasing so rapidly, when it got onto boost, that it was braking away all the time. That was in the dry.

A very nicely built car.
Old 10 May 2002, 11:50 AM
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thats just boost control.

It can be mapped out surely.

there is nothing that says all the boost ahs to come in one go, it is also rigth foot dependent.

Look at the F1 cars, they can still manage to keep the rear wheels in line in the rain, even with traction control switched off!
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heh, I remember Martin spinning the car around on a sixpence once at the Revs 1/4 mile day at Alconbury. All he needed to do was boot up the revs, dump the clutch and then dip it again less than a second later. The amount of power put through the drivtrain was enough to keep the EIGHTEEN INCH WHEELS and sticky tyres spinning to complete the donut even though the clutch was disengaged.
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The amount of power put through the drivtrain was enough to keep the EIGHTEEN INCH WHEELS and sticky tyres spinning to complete the donut even though the clutch was disengaged.
in a word, nonsense! You cant have the wheels spinning without power being aplied.

As to martin and the car. Awesome piece of kit, it didnt miss a beat at the ring either. Martin seemed like a decent chap too.
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was that THE reyland cossie at the ring? i did wonder. the grey escort cossie was nice as well, i liked the nice piece of braided hose leading to an old oil bottle for a breather! i have a similar setup on my Pug except i have a bit of garden hose and a mineral water bottle! (the dark green one, i'm sure not one person at the ring gave it a second look all weekend, and i only saw one other 205 the whole time i was on the continent!)

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Old 10 May 2002, 02:09 PM
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damm that good but it aint really a normal car is it? or am i thinking of somthing else. its a kit type car? still vey quick whats the 0-100 mph time???? kool!
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There were two Reyland Cossies at the Ring, the Escort belonging to a certain Mister Hadland and the other was to do with Redline mag...build by Martin...

The Grey Cossie is my mates...quiet slow really in comparison

I think it was the green Cossie called Monte that had the oil breather into an old bottle...

It is a normal'ish car... just a little bit more power and a little less weight...
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whoever said it's getting a 10k gearbox get your facts straight!!

it's no where near that!!
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Yeh the car was in CCC this month

Read it, it gives a good impreshion of what the car was like to drive on a tight track, basicly it aint good (on the tight track) Not that the car is BAD, in fact quite the opposit, it goes like the clappers, but lag is a problem.

Check out the westy and cat in the back their times (i beleive) were faster than the cozzy.

In fact the Pug 205 was not actualy that far off in lap time, 5 seconds if that.

This is why im over to the dark side, come to me my westy, come to ME!!!!!!!!!!! lol
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People,

We ran Hadlands Cossie in the Dec 2001 issue of PFord and back then it ran a 11.4 sec 1/4, 3.3sec 0-60, 8.3 sec 0-100 and hit 188mph. Its good to hear it gradually getting quicker...

As far as spending £10k on a gearbox, that's probably wrong. Its just a straight cut box with a Quaife gear kit with an off the shelf Quaife lsd. He might have spent a good £10k replacing the ones his mashed up though!

Keith
Old 10 May 2002, 07:35 PM
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Laws of physics don't apply to Cossies then ??

""in a word, nonsense! You cant have the wheels spinning without power being aplied.""

'Inertia' mean anything to you John ???
wow, they must be some bloody heavy wheels on that car...
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I think you will find that if you spin the trans up to 7/8k whilst sitting doing a do'nut, you can dip the clutch well before the end of the maneover and still 'gyrate' due to the inertia of the drivetrain
If you have ever watched a dragster do a dry burnout, it's when the power is shut down that the tyres bite and jolt the car forwards. Oooh how does it do that ? there was no throttle applied
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I think you will find that if you spin the trans up to 7/8k whilst sitting doing a doughnut, you can dip the clutch well before the end of the manoeuvre and still 'gyrate' due to the inertia of the drive train
Granted, but try measuring how long the wheels keep spinning for. In the case of a doughnut I’d say the inertia of the car itself is the main force in prolonging the rotation of the car. The inertia of the drive shaft/prop shaft and wheels/brakes/tyres will very soon be overcome by the differential/differentials and (to a greater extent) the now gripping tyres. This will obviously depend on how much grip the tyres and the surface they are resting on provides, but even slicks on ice won't see this effect lasting very long (the wheels continuing to turn that is, not the car in the doughnut - obviously in a slicks/ice scenario the rotation of the car itself could potentially continue for some time).

If you have ever watched a dragster do a dry burnout, it's when the power is shut down that the tyres bite and jolt the car forwards. Oooh how does it do that? There was no throttle applied
I would imagine that this is due to the greater polar moment of inertia of the large rear tyres that dragsters generally run. They are also by and large automatics so I’d be willing to bet that at the point they grip and shoot forward the wheels and transmission are not separated to the extent they would be in the case of a manual car with the clutch pedal fully depressed, allowing the (admittedly light in a drag car) flywheel/clutch/crank/rods/pistons a greater say in proceedings.

i must say I’m not very knowledgeable in the area of drag car transmissions, so if anyone out there knows better, please pipe up.


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