BMW E46 M3 CSL /BMW E90 M3 / JDM Sti Hatch or new Saloon
19 July 2011, 10:42 PM
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BMW E46 M3 CSL /BMW E90 M3 / JDM Sti Hatch or new Saloon
Which used car from above to get, in the next year??
-All used & under approx under £28k.
-The BMW's will be left standard but the Imprezas will be tuned to approx 350bhp / 370ft/lbs & will have some minor suspension upgrades.
-The BMW's will be SMG gearbox
-All will be driven approx 4 days a week & maybe the odd track day.
-I dont like losing too much on depreciation hence they will be at least a year old or in the case of the CSL will go up in value
ps a left field idea (though it does have serious SMG issues & has a drinking habbit) is a E62 BMW M6, tweeked to 560 bhp
or maybe not?
Any advice appreciated. -The BMW's will be left standard but the Imprezas will be tuned to approx 350bhp / 370ft/lbs & will have some minor suspension upgrades.
-The BMW's will be SMG gearbox
-All will be driven approx 4 days a week & maybe the odd track day.
-I dont like losing too much on depreciation hence they will be at least a year old or in the case of the CSL will go up in value
ps a left field idea (though it does have serious SMG issues & has a drinking habbit) is a E62 BMW M6, tweeked to 560 bhp
or maybe not?
Last edited by rickya; 19 July 2011 at 10:44 PM.
are they really £28k already 
19 July 2011, 10:54 PM
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V8 M3, not even close IMHO.
FWIW, CSL fanboys will soon crowd out this thread. It's a great/iconic car, no doubt, but at the end of the day it's a diet version of what is ultimately a dated car these days. By modern standards most e46 M3's aren't that well equipped...the CLS is laughable. I'd much rather have a nicely specced e90 M3.
FWIW, CSL fanboys will soon crowd out this thread. It's a great/iconic car, no doubt, but at the end of the day it's a diet version of what is ultimately a dated car these days. By modern standards most e46 M3's aren't that well equipped...the CLS is laughable. I'd much rather have a nicely specced e90 M3.
19 July 2011, 11:13 PM
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After driving my boss 08 m3 the other day I would say the m3, great, well setup car and after all your time spent in an impreza it would be something new. Also with the BMW its buy and drive the impreza you will be chucking more cash on it
19 July 2011, 11:17 PM
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I hear what your saying the E90 M3 is better engineered, more modern & more powerful than the others.
But what draws me to the CSL is its rarity, depreciation proof & laps 15 seconds quicker than the E90 M3 round the ring, in fact its faster than a Lambo LP560 round the ring!!
But what draws me to the CSL is its rarity, depreciation proof & laps 15 seconds quicker than the E90 M3 round the ring, in fact its faster than a Lambo LP560 round the ring!!
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20 July 2011, 07:45 AM
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I would go for the CSL...
As a car is still a great motor and prices are still strong,and always will be..
Losing great wads of cash on the others in a short time is an instant put off for me.
As a car is still a great motor and prices are still strong,and always will be..
Losing great wads of cash on the others in a short time is an instant put off for me.
20 July 2011, 08:05 AM
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The older and cheaper the M3 gets , the less is loses , its a bit of a kick in the nuts how much they do drop considering they are supposed to be the dog danglies , mine has dropped about a grand a month since I bought it last summer !
I'm starting to get itchy feet now , so am thinking either a supercharger conversion to take it over 600hp , or a GT-R
Anyone want the only Estoril blue E92 M3 ? £33k and come and get it
I'm starting to get itchy feet now , so am thinking either a supercharger conversion to take it over 600hp , or a GT-R
Anyone want the only Estoril blue E92 M3 ? £33k and come and get it
20 July 2011, 09:17 AM
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Love the CSL, but i's too much money for what it is imo.
E90 M3 is a bargain... http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3008400.htm
E90 M3 is a bargain... http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3008400.htm
20 July 2011, 01:54 PM
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-Surprisingly the choice between an E46 CSL & an E90 M3 is a tough one.
-Even more surprisingly no one has mentioned the new JDM Impreza!
-Also doesnt the idea of a 2006 BMW M6 with 560 bhp @ £25k seem interesting?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2005-BMW-M...#ht_500wt_1202
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2004-BMW-M...#ht_500wt_1202
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3008400.htm
The 997 CS & GTR are a bit too expensive to run for my liking though they are awesome cars.
About 3 years ago when I bought my Litchfield Hawkeye SpecC, I was also looking at CSL's, the prices of which have not moved at all, if anything they'v gone up a bit! Back then you could'nt get a CSL for less than approx £25k & that seems to be the case now, for an average mileage one. Bearing in mind they are now 3 years older and still the same price.
-Even more surprisingly no one has mentioned the new JDM Impreza!
-Also doesnt the idea of a 2006 BMW M6 with 560 bhp @ £25k seem interesting?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2005-BMW-M...#ht_500wt_1202
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2004-BMW-M...#ht_500wt_1202
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3008400.htm
The 997 CS & GTR are a bit too expensive to run for my liking though they are awesome cars.
About 3 years ago when I bought my Litchfield Hawkeye SpecC, I was also looking at CSL's, the prices of which have not moved at all, if anything they'v gone up a bit! Back then you could'nt get a CSL for less than approx £25k & that seems to be the case now, for an average mileage one. Bearing in mind they are now 3 years older and still the same price.
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13 September 2011, 02:32 PM
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M6's at approx £25k, hmmmm tempting?
PH seems to like them too.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/t...vs+Nissan+GT-R
CA Automotive fettling!
http://www.ca-at.co.uk/single_prod-c...wX2lkPTg=.html
PH seems to like them too.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/t...vs+Nissan+GT-R
CA Automotive fettling!
http://www.ca-at.co.uk/single_prod-c...wX2lkPTg=.html
Last edited by rickya; 13 September 2011 at 02:34 PM.
13 September 2011, 02:52 PM
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I would be worried about the e90 m3 and m6 depreciation wise looking at the trend of e46 prices have nose drived, m5 and m6 have done the same.
I think if you intend to sell after a few years csl would be the way to go. If you plan to keep, probably the e90 or m6.
I think if you intend to sell after a few years csl would be the way to go. If you plan to keep, probably the e90 or m6.
13 September 2011, 03:50 PM
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CSL is an awesome car but I couldnt part with that much money for such an old car. Im looking for a new car next year and thinking along similar lines with an E92 335i or an STi Hatch (dont like the saloon). The ringland/piston issues with the 2.5 make me nervous and looking at the JDMs more but then I think if I ever want to sell that on limited market. Im 34 and the more lairy / agricultural feel of the STi is luring me more as the BMW is a lot more refined (obviously the CSL is not) and would be better for munching the miles but Im lucky if I do 7k. BMW Id be looking at £25k for a decent low mileage 2.5-3yr old model whereas that would hopefully get me a very low mileage <1yr old STi.
13 September 2011, 08:17 PM
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I thought BMW dropped the SMG which by all acounts is meant to be poop, the guy I bought my 330 from had one and said he hated the SMG box, said he found it hard to get used to and from the little research I did they are not the most reliable either, the guy next door to my mum works for BMW and told me to stay clear of the SMG and stick to the auto if not the manual. Anyhow back to the orginal I thought BMW dropped.the SMG in the e90 for a dct box?
Either way I would stick manual as when the others go wrong its going to cost thousands to put right!
I can't see the m6 holding its value to well though pal although 560 on tap does sound a pleasure to drive but not to sure how chuckable round corners it will be as its a big old car
E90 still gets my vote, in that ice blue colour with carbon roof, it looks the nuts
Either way I would stick manual as when the others go wrong its going to cost thousands to put right!
I can't see the m6 holding its value to well though pal although 560 on tap does sound a pleasure to drive but not to sure how chuckable round corners it will be as its a big old car
E90 still gets my vote, in that ice blue colour with carbon roof, it looks the nuts
14 September 2011, 12:38 PM
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There is a 60 reg spec C on PH with 1500 miles for £28k now.
14 September 2011, 02:42 PM
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The Euro imports were many times poorly spec'd as compared to UK models & many lacked DCCD etc. IMO in terms of resale value and ease of selling a newage it would be:
1)JDM
2)UK
3)Euro
Stevie I think your spot on in terms of the SMG boxes they are the Achilles heel with the M5 /M6's. (most need replacing every 30k miles & costs about £3k to do IIRC). I suppose a few years old, manual, E90 M3 makes more sense.
1)JDM
2)UK
3)Euro
Stevie I think your spot on in terms of the SMG boxes they are the Achilles heel with the M5 /M6's. (most need replacing every 30k miles & costs about £3k to do IIRC). I suppose a few years old, manual, E90 M3 makes more sense.
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14 September 2011, 04:29 PM
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I had an E46 M3 for a good few years and had no problems whatsoever with my SMG gearbox , if you read the forums most problems are traced to a relay , thats cheap to change , or with the SMG pump , which is expensive to replace , but there are people repairing these now which is again , I loved the SMG , the gearbox is the same as a manual , but with motors taking over the gear change.
My new M3 with the DCT 7 speed gearbox is amazing , miles better than the SMG , again this car has had no gearbox faults.
To clear any confusion , the E90 M3 is a 4 door model with a steel roof , the E92 is the coupe with the carbon roof , and the E93 is the soft top with NO roof !
My new M3 with the DCT 7 speed gearbox is amazing , miles better than the SMG , again this car has had no gearbox faults.
To clear any confusion , the E90 M3 is a 4 door model with a steel roof , the E92 is the coupe with the carbon roof , and the E93 is the soft top with NO roof !
14 September 2011, 06:49 PM
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I hear what your saying the E90 M3 is better engineered, more modern & more powerful than the others.
But what draws me to the CSL is its rarity, depreciation proof & laps 15 seconds quicker than the E90 M3 round the ring, in fact its faster than a Lambo LP560 round the ring!!
But what draws me to the CSL is its rarity, depreciation proof & laps 15 seconds quicker than the E90 M3 round the ring, in fact its faster than a Lambo LP560 round the ring!!
14 September 2011, 08:23 PM
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And the some piece of poop run around for the snow