Anyone know anything about Shoguns?
11 May 2011, 11:52 AM
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Anyone know anything about Shoguns?
A mate is looking for a shogun to tow his catering trailer. He doesn't have lots to play about £4K max.
Most seem to be either big miles or shadey looking JDM imports. Theres one local-ish thats £2.5K but it's a bit old on a 1996 (P) but it's only done 64K. It is petrol though so it's going to drink the fuel a bit.
I suggested that he should offer £2.2K for the Shogun then look into getting it converted to LPG. The conversion will be £1400 for a V6 petrol.
I think going this route (assuming the Shogun doesn't throw up a massive bill) is going to be the most cost effective. He won't get the conversion costs back on the Shogun but the mileage he will be doing - and the type of miles as it's all twisty roads and hills everywhere round here means that the LPG conversion will pay for itself in short time.
If anyone has previous experience with Shoguns I'd appreciate any opinions or issues they may have.
Most seem to be either big miles or shadey looking JDM imports. Theres one local-ish thats £2.5K but it's a bit old on a 1996 (P) but it's only done 64K. It is petrol though so it's going to drink the fuel a bit.
I suggested that he should offer £2.2K for the Shogun then look into getting it converted to LPG. The conversion will be £1400 for a V6 petrol.
I think going this route (assuming the Shogun doesn't throw up a massive bill) is going to be the most cost effective. He won't get the conversion costs back on the Shogun but the mileage he will be doing - and the type of miles as it's all twisty roads and hills everywhere round here means that the LPG conversion will pay for itself in short time.
If anyone has previous experience with Shoguns I'd appreciate any opinions or issues they may have.
11 May 2011, 01:03 PM
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They are thirsty beasts even with a LPG conversion. I had a lpg converted 3.5 V6 model, and it struggled to do 15 mpg. At that price and age I would be looking for one that has already had the LPG conversion done. Be aware there are some good LPG conversion and some bad ones.
Unless your mate is set on a shogun (and I would only consider a diesel shogun, then quite a bit of choice out there for 4K, would personally aviod the LR products and stick to either Japanese or Korean , ie Nissan, (terrano or patrol), Toyota (landcruiser), Kia Sorento, Isuzu trooper, Ssangyong.
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Unless your mate is set on a shogun (and I would only consider a diesel shogun, then quite a bit of choice out there for 4K, would personally aviod the LR products and stick to either Japanese or Korean , ie Nissan, (terrano or patrol), Toyota (landcruiser), Kia Sorento, Isuzu trooper, Ssangyong.
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11 May 2011, 05:46 PM
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I used to have Pajero 2.8 diesel Exceed lwb. Far better than a Shogun. Loads better equipped and for 4k he should get a fairly good one. Dodgy imports 
I bought mine from the jap import auctions at Donington.
I bought mine from the jap import auctions at Donington.
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12 May 2011, 12:18 PM
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I thought the Pajero was named Shogun cos it meant w@nker in Spanish.
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A mate is looking for a shogun to tow his catering trailer. He doesn't have lots to play about £4K max.
Most seem to be either big miles or shadey looking JDM imports. Theres one local-ish thats £2.5K but it's a bit old on a 1996 (P) but it's only done 64K. It is petrol though so it's going to drink the fuel a bit.
I suggested that he should offer £2.2K for the Shogun then look into getting it converted to LPG. The conversion will be £1400 for a V6 petrol.
I think going this route (assuming the Shogun doesn't throw up a massive bill) is going to be the most cost effective. He won't get the conversion costs back on the Shogun but the mileage he will be doing - and the type of miles as it's all twisty roads and hills everywhere round here means that the LPG conversion will pay for itself in short time.
If anyone has previous experience with Shoguns I'd appreciate any opinions or issues they may have.
Most seem to be either big miles or shadey looking JDM imports. Theres one local-ish thats £2.5K but it's a bit old on a 1996 (P) but it's only done 64K. It is petrol though so it's going to drink the fuel a bit.
I suggested that he should offer £2.2K for the Shogun then look into getting it converted to LPG. The conversion will be £1400 for a V6 petrol.
I think going this route (assuming the Shogun doesn't throw up a massive bill) is going to be the most cost effective. He won't get the conversion costs back on the Shogun but the mileage he will be doing - and the type of miles as it's all twisty roads and hills everywhere round here means that the LPG conversion will pay for itself in short time.
If anyone has previous experience with Shoguns I'd appreciate any opinions or issues they may have.
Great cars and you can get 7 in it
Recommend it but look for the JDM's they're not too bad.
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12 May 2011, 02:14 PM
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Got an 2002 Shogun 4 Work (clubsport 
) short wheel base, had it from new.
It's fantastic. Spends half of it's time with a 16ft Ifor Williams and anything up to around 2 tonnes of oak/woodwork machine/rally car on the back. And we can't seem to break it.
Problems in 9 years? One battery, one exhaust back box, one interior light bulb. That's it. Our old Defender would have snapped in half by now.
It actually goes like stink, drives like a car, comfortable, quiet, and even handles pretty well.
In last years snow and ice it was unstoppable, especially with locking centre and rear diffs.
And with RWD, a LSD rear axle, bags of torque, Russian Ditchfinder tyres and SWB, it makes a very unlikely but highly effective drift machine.
) short wheel base, had it from new.It's fantastic. Spends half of it's time with a 16ft Ifor Williams and anything up to around 2 tonnes of oak/woodwork machine/rally car on the back. And we can't seem to break it.
Problems in 9 years? One battery, one exhaust back box, one interior light bulb. That's it. Our old Defender would have snapped in half by now.
It actually goes like stink, drives like a car, comfortable, quiet, and even handles pretty well.
In last years snow and ice it was unstoppable, especially with locking centre and rear diffs.
And with RWD, a LSD rear axle, bags of torque, Russian Ditchfinder tyres and SWB, it makes a very unlikely but highly effective drift machine.
14 May 2011, 06:54 PM
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Sister had one for about 10 years for carting her brood around.
Loved it with a passion.Can't remember her ever chuntering about it.Just sad when it had to go
The Japanese are just so good at all sorts of cars
Loved it with a passion.Can't remember her ever chuntering about it.Just sad when it had to go
The Japanese are just so good at all sorts of cars
14 May 2011, 07:05 PM
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The Pajero 2.8 lwb turbo diesel auto I had would shock most cars in a drag from the lights and would cruise at a ton all day if you wanted. Separate climate control in the back, super select 4 wheel drive can be selected at whilst traveling, low box, 7 seats. I would choose the Pajero over the shogun every time.
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The Pajero 2.8 lwb turbo diesel auto I had would shock most cars in a drag from the lights and would cruise at a ton all day if you wanted. Separate climate control in the back, super select 4 wheel drive can be selected at whilst traveling, low box, 7 seats. I would choose the Pajero over the shogun every time.
You,d be doing very well to cruise " at a ton all day" , seeing as the offiicial tested top speed is 94mph! Maybe the speedo was still in km so a ton would be 62mph-more like it!! And 0-60 in 16.8 secs so you might "shock" the occasional cyclist
15 May 2011, 10:55 PM
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Anyway my real point was that the Pajero is a better bet than the Shogun.
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