salsa-king

anyone help?

Wifes car has the above, no warning lights on dash, so no indication of engine problem.


Could it be clutch?
she says it goes into gear but won't go above 25-30mph.



if it's clutch what prices will dealer sting us for???

zip106

You've not been feeding those mice again, have you?
Either that or their wheel's knackered.

Trout

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Blown turbo bearing?

Scoobychick

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Wastegate gone?

Scoobychick

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Wastegate hose?

salsa-king

AA man just go to Jo now!!!! afterthe AA call was made at 5:45pm!!!!

anyway he's asked if any work has been done on the turbo when it went in (we did have a intercooler pipe replaced last year October time)
he thinks it could be a bearing... on the turbo!!!!
david you couldbe correct

rookymatt

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Turbo, or a popped off boost hose. Whooshing noise indicates boost pressure escaping to somewhere other than into the cylinder!
Let us know how you get on bud!!!

salsa-king

will do tnx,

AA low loader picking car back up tomorrow morning to get it over to sandicliffe fod in Nottm.


will the above be covered under warranty??

rookymatt

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Should be, there is no reason why it wouldn't be, unless the car is modified in any way?

MMT WRX

DMF and Clutch on a Mondeo 2.0tdci cost me about £1300 including a new starter motor that got knackered in the process.

Hope its just a turbo hose.

beal

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I had the 1.6 tdci 56 plate up until last month,i sold it...
The turbo went in december at 76k
I replaced it,
700 miles on it went again
Replaced it again and sold it
Looked up about it on FFOC and it seems theres a problem with these engines
Ford had a TSB about them and the list of parts thats supposed to be changed is unreal!
They should have been recalled.
Any way i sold it and bought an 1800 tdci because they are the old proven diesel engine.
not the peugeot engine.

salsa-king

Beal, what did it cost?
can you giveme some links I should look at for info please.
i've read the ffoc site of the guy with the 2005 mk2 car 1.6 tdci.. like ours.. new engine and two new turbos in weeks!! puts it down to oil/carbon build up!
where can i get a copy of the TSB sheet?
is this what sandicliffe ford should follow if they fit a new turbo?

Sandicliffe Ford rang me on Friday to ask if the car has service history!!!!!!! eeeer yes, you had it in Octobler 2009 for a service and we're on the Sandicliffe Service Plan too!!!!

does semm funny as after the service last year we had THREE oil leaks, from different parts of the engine.
1. intercooler pipe
2. ladder frame gasket
3. injector seal

when questioned about it we were told these were leaks that have nothing to do with what gets looked at on a service and it cost us £800 to get them fixed.... weeks after the service!!! interested to knoiw if this is linked to the turbo going!!
Oh, we had new Alternator at the end of January too.
Lucky we have the ford Protect Extended Warranty.... that runs out 26.10.2010 though!!!
now worried what might go wrong after this date!!!

beal

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Send me your email address and ill send you the TSB.
I was going to try to get it sorted by ford but didnt bother,mostly because i didnt have time and need a reliable car all the time.
Went to 1 dealer and they said they new nothing about the tsb....lying gits

salsa-king

info@neoquip.com


read now a few issues where ppl are on a second turbo after a new one's been fitted, main problem was not clearing all the old oil out before new turbo was replaced.
main ford dealer will know about the TSB??

beal

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Yes they know alright!
but your dealer should have changed everything listed on the tsb when they fitted the turbo.

beal

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Sent the TSB mate

ALi-B

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Considering that the very same 1.6 engine is fitted in every Mini D, Peugeot 1.6 HDI, Volvo S40/V50, Citroen 1.6HDi, Fiesta/Focus 1.6tdci, Mazda 3, and Suzuki. It accounts for a huge amount of cars across Europe. If this engine was "that" unreliable, its reputation would be worse than Toyota's. One can also not condemn the engine because of the turbo - The Turbo used varies depending on year and engine output and application the engine is used in.

For example; The current higher output 115ps derivative of Ford's 1980's 1.8 clatter banger has the same type of Garrett variable geometry turbo as some of the 110ps 1.6 units (mainly the C-max). Of which is found in pretty much every modern diesel (VAG, Alfa, Renault, BMW, Toyota, Honda, Mercedes). Whilst most other Ford 1.6 110ps units most have the smaller version of the same unit (GT15 vs. GT17 ) its akin to comparing a mitsi TD04 to a TD05.

The lower power 90ps 1.6 has a Mitsubishi TD025. That appears to be used only in Fords with the 90ps version of the 1.6 engine. I wonder if its this version that is the troublesome unit?

I also believe the fuelling/control system also varies due to manufacturers sourcing parts from different suppliers (Delphi, vs. Bosch, vs Siemens) as the engine is made in different locations. Even though the engine is technically the same.


Sorry it doesn't help much with the problem; Modern CR diesels are becoming more and more problematic these days, especially as the first of the newer generation ones are getting a bit more worn:

For example; Peugeot/Citroen's version of the same 1.6 engine is well known to suffer particulate filter clogging issues; mainly due to garages not fully filling up the DPF cleaning tank fully during services (intentional - for a few more £££ on a new DPF? ) - or owners ignoring service schedules. The Ford version doesn't suffer this as it purges the filter by injecting fuel during the exhaust cycle (at the cost of MPG - and maybe exhaust/turbo temps - but then VAG and many others uses the same principal with the same Turbos).

EGR valve/clogging/sticking is another issue that bains all modern diesels. I'm not sure if its possible on the 1.6, but a good mod is to blank it off (just block it; not remove - otherwise that'll cause a fault code).

Crankcase sludging blocking breathers and oil drains – blame modern extended service intervals for that.

Injectors failing/dribbling/leaking etc another common one with sometimes espensive consequences.

Having waffled all that; from the OP it could be the clutch, hard to say without actually hearing the noise and driving the car. Just don't soley rely on a AA man's diagnosis before kicking off, some are good, some are dreadfully hopeless. The best recent one we had was a SAAB with a AA man's diagnosis of a “failed injector sensor” (whatever that is ).....shreds of the cambelt sticking out of the top of the (broken) cambelt cover obviously didn't appear to be abnormal to the AA man, nor indicative of why the car broke down and won't start.

Me too; don't start me on Dual Mass Flywheels - If VAG can't get it right, what hope is there for Ford or the rest of the world's car manufacturers?

AndyUkImpreza

A bit late for a warning now but i work at ford and the tdci mondeos and focus's are nowt but hassle, Theyre really bad for turbos diesel pumps or injectors

If somethings gone on urs the car may have gone into limp mode to stop further damage

salsa-king

phne call today, Good news, we've found the problem, it's a blown turbo!! and it's covered under FORD PROTECT but can you pay £77 for the oil we have to use!

Trout

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What did I tell you?

Glad you got it sorted without too much pain

salsa-king

lol, well, looking at the warrenty paln, it seems to say all oil/lubricants are inclued if they relate to the problem ats being fixed.
So wew think we shouldn't need to pay the £77 for all