MOT faliure rates published
13 January 2010, 05:17 PM
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MOT faliure rates published
13 January 2010, 07:05 PM
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Yeh, but look at the MOT failures in terms of what they failed on. Usual stuff - tyres etc
Pretty much all wear and tear items.
As you would expect.
No BMWs?
Well that's easy to explain - tyres? BMs get through so many tyres that it's odd-on that they have been replaced umpteen times prior to MOT
Steering racks - well, no indicators, so they can't be steering 
Pretty much all wear and tear items.
As you would expect.
No BMWs?
Well that's easy to explain - tyres? BMs get through so many tyres that it's odd-on that they have been replaced umpteen times prior to MOT
Steering racks - well, no indicators, so they can't be steering
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13 January 2010, 07:07 PM
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Also bear in mind that the cars featured tend to be rep mobiles.
Still a surprise that the 3 series doesn't feature..... unless it's a mistake.
If not. WELL DONE BMW.
Still a surprise that the 3 series doesn't feature..... unless it's a mistake.
If not. WELL DONE BMW.
13 January 2010, 07:12 PM
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Hmm - not sure about repmobiles - Ford Ka? Vauxhall Meriva?
BMs don't get through tyres quicker than any other brands for the power they put out.
About to replace mine (one been replaced so far) - 22k miles and the front still have 2mm left in them. Not bad for the power and more importantly, the torque.
The BMW 318 appears near the bottom of the 1997 cars passing 2007 MOT test list but then they arr sh1te pretend BMWs anyway.
BMs don't get through tyres quicker than any other brands for the power they put out.
About to replace mine (one been replaced so far) - 22k miles and the front still have 2mm left in them. Not bad for the power and more importantly, the torque.
The BMW 318 appears near the bottom of the 1997 cars passing 2007 MOT test list but then they arr sh1te pretend BMWs anyway.
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13 January 2010, 07:33 PM
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Agree on the "poll"
Not sure how it works when you check out the spreadsheet.......
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/opensecre..._Comp_2007.xls
But you can 'get on yer honkers and play wi me conkers' if you think i am collaberating everything on that spreadsheet
Not sure how it works when you check out the spreadsheet.......
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/opensecre..._Comp_2007.xls
But you can 'get on yer honkers and play wi me conkers' if you think i am collaberating everything on that spreadsheet
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13 January 2010, 07:40 PM
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Quote from the same webpage
"The crucial information that is not available is the mileage of the car, or an assessment of how well it has been looked after by the owner, both of which will have a direct bearing on a vehicle's condition and its ability to pass an MOT test."
So its all a bit meaningless imho
"The crucial information that is not available is the mileage of the car, or an assessment of how well it has been looked after by the owner, both of which will have a direct bearing on a vehicle's condition and its ability to pass an MOT test."
So its all a bit meaningless imho
13 January 2010, 07:48 PM
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Oh, and Martin Rosenbaum may be the BBc's Freedom of Information specialist, but he's a bit crap with excel.
If its figures published from 2007 tests, why are there 2005 and 2006 cars details on it?
Looking around, it doesn't add up either.
Typical BBC/Watchdog pish....
If its figures published from 2007 tests, why are there 2005 and 2006 cars details on it?
Looking around, it doesn't add up either.
Typical BBC/Watchdog pish....
13 January 2010, 07:51 PM
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Not suprised the Transit are high failures, due to the work load some of these are subjected too.
Considering Ford cars are:-
Sold in higher numbers to most other manufactures, there are more of them to fail.
Used as Hire cars
Rep cars.
It doesn't supprise me. It also doesn't supprise me that the Megane & Clio are up there too. Mainly because they're sh!te.
Considering Ford cars are:-
Sold in higher numbers to most other manufactures, there are more of them to fail.
Used as Hire cars
Rep cars.
It doesn't supprise me. It also doesn't supprise me that the Megane & Clio are up there too. Mainly because they're sh!te.
13 January 2010, 08:29 PM
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As a side note to this thread, my 1992 Citroen ZX 1.9d workhorse sort of passed yet another MOT today - I've had it 4 years now and it sailed through the first 2 tests, failed on a cracked numberplate last year and failed today with rear numberplate lights not working (shorting somewhere).
I bought the car for £300 4 years ago, it's had a set of tyres and a new numberplate but otherwise had nothing spent on it or done to it. God bless cheap motoring!!!
I bought the car for £300 4 years ago, it's had a set of tyres and a new numberplate but otherwise had nothing spent on it or done to it. God bless cheap motoring!!!
13 January 2010, 10:07 PM
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I bought a 1.9 td 'super mudburner' ZX when the scooby was having the engine rebuilt, used its tax up and then flogged it and got my cash back
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Quote from the same webpage
"The crucial information that is not available is the mileage of the car, or an assessment of how well it has been looked after by the owner, both of which will have a direct bearing on a vehicle's condition and its ability to pass an MOT test."
So its all a bit meaningless imho
"The crucial information that is not available is the mileage of the car, or an assessment of how well it has been looked after by the owner, both of which will have a direct bearing on a vehicle's condition and its ability to pass an MOT test."
So its all a bit meaningless imho
What this also indicates is that a huge percentage of cars were potentially dangerous prior to their MoT fail. Perhaps older cars should be tested more frequently than new ones, or perhaps it should be 12 months or xx,000 miles, whichever is sooner.
13 January 2010, 10:57 PM
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Stupidity of owner is crucial.
Failing on tyres FFS! Some of these things have nothing to do with the car and everything to do with the owner/dealer checking the basics before submitting a car for the test.
Failing on tyres FFS! Some of these things have nothing to do with the car and everything to do with the owner/dealer checking the basics before submitting a car for the test.
14 January 2010, 12:56 AM
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Exactly the transit and the connect failing has nothing to do with ford making ****ter cars than say the frenchies, its just that builders dont really give a flying **** about their van in general. If it aint broke to them they aint gonna fix it till forced.
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As said in the other thread on this (and noted here) mileage is crucial, lot of rep mobiles on here, for example the Mondeo fails a lot accordign to this but the X-Type Jag which is essentially the same car fails a lot less...
Also doesn't say why they failed. My WRX failed in december... on the numberplate bulb. No need to re-test, just a quicj fix but it still got a red fail sheet so that would skew the figures.
I was surprised not to see more citroens on there though. Perhaps they break down that much they generally get through the mot?
5t.
Also doesn't say why they failed. My WRX failed in december... on the numberplate bulb. No need to re-test, just a quicj fix but it still got a red fail sheet so that would skew the figures.
I was surprised not to see more citroens on there though. Perhaps they break down that much they generally get through the mot?
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16 January 2010, 10:13 AM
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16 January 2010, 10:36 AM
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When you have people driving about who let tyres get like this: https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...shocker-2.html
It doesn't really matter what brand of car it is, it'll still fail the MOT.
Bet its not been serviced either, so eventually will fail from either brakes (due to being down to the metal) or emissions (blocked air filter, sludged up engine breathers etc).
It doesn't really matter what brand of car it is, it'll still fail the MOT.
Bet its not been serviced either, so eventually will fail from either brakes (due to being down to the metal) or emissions (blocked air filter, sludged up engine breathers etc).