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Old 01 November 2009, 02:06 PM
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Default Lets talk brakes: Grooved & drilled vs Grooved

Hello, am hoping some people here can educate me on brakes.

Basically I need a new set of pads and discs, and have been looking at uprated discs. There are several companies who offer uprated discs, but Im confused as to which one would suite me best.

Surely grooved and drilled should be better than just grooved? But some people say that drilled discs will crack?

I just need a set of discs that will work as well as OEM when cold, and better when hot. Has anyone got any knowledge on this.

The discs im looking at are tarox ones. They sell 3 different types of discs but there is no info as to which disc is designed to do what, or which disc is best suited for what application. Also as these are heat treated discs do I need to stick with tarox pads or would some ferodo ds2500 be fine with them?

Disc size is 345x30mm incase anyones interested.



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Drilled are more prone to crack. Stick to grooved.

DS2500s will be fine.

What model/year car is it for?
Old 01 November 2009, 02:53 PM
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Cheap drilled discs are physical drilled after casting and are much more prone to cracking. Good drilled discs are cast with the holes in them and are therefore far better. I'd probably just stick to grooved tbh.
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Originally Posted by BOB'5
Drilled are more prone to crack. Stick to grooved.

DS2500s will be fine.

What model/year car is it for?
MK2 SEAT Leon Cupra

Can you get me pads for this car at all?
Old 01 November 2009, 07:19 PM
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I cracked Black Diamond drilled on a single trackday at Knockhill. They were replaced under warranty, and then a second set cracked at the next track day. I replaced with Tarox grooved and they did not crack at the next track day.
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Drilled discs don't look nice when they get older as the holes rust. The brake pads simply don't clean inside the holes

Oh, and they can crack.

Another vote for grooved
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Look at DBA's, really good discs.
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My drilled and grooved cracked but they wasnt an expensive pair.

unless spending the money get grooved only
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Ok im converted to grooved.

Now looking at some lightweight ATE 2 piece discs.
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Originally Posted by PovK1
MK2 SEAT Leon Cupra

Can you get me pads for this car at all?
Yep, can do the discs and pads, but would need to buy in a min of 10 sets (so would need a GB).

Drop me a PM if you're interested
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DS2500 pads are 'non gassing' - and very good. They don't need any grooves to work (to clear any gas build up when roasting)
In fact all the grooves and holes do is loose you pad contact area....

Cheap grey iron (sticky) plain discs and very good pads work well. It's the disc that becomes consumable..

Others that run really hard on the track a lot may disagree with the above but that's what I've experienced and read.
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Originally Posted by G00ner
Look at DBA's, really good discs.
Another vote for DBA here. Not cheap, but to skimp on brakes is plain stupid
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