306 xsi - what to look out for?
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306 xsi - what to look out for?
Hi all, I'm looking to buy my wife a run around and was thinking of a 306 xsi (specifically the later model). Is there anything I should be looking out for in particular when viewing etc? Cheers in advance.
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Is that not the 2.0 8v valve petrol?
If so - Slow, thirsty, so totally pointless.
Would it not be better getting a Tdi one. They are brilliant cars to run about in.
If so - Slow, thirsty, so totally pointless.
Would it not be better getting a Tdi one. They are brilliant cars to run about in.
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The late one is a 2.0 16v IIRC. I did drive one once, but it was a 3 year old example. It was a lovely bit of kit. The VTR of 306's - 85% of the GTI and cheaper to run [in theory]. 135hp, 30 mpg, IG 11 and £1500 for a good one, as apposed to 167hp, 30mpg?, IG 15 and £2500 for a good one.
Down to ££££ in the end I guess.
Down to ££££ in the end I guess.
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I'm looking at the 1999 - 2001 model. I'm also looking into the DTurbo as I had one of these myself before purchasing the scooby, but they seem to be hard to find at the moment in relation to the price I'm looking to pay (around the £1k mark).
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Yeah would love the missus to have a GTi-6 but insurance would be too steep - same reason she hasn't got a scooby. You know of anyone who can reliably chip a DTurbo?
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d turbo is not chipable, they are mechanical pump and IMO slow and thirsty.
If you want a mid sized diesel there are better/newer cars available for £1k which you can chip
>>Example<<
137bhp/221 lb/ft
>>Example 2<
130hp/191lb/ft etc
If you want a mid sized diesel there are better/newer cars available for £1k which you can chip
>>Example<<
137bhp/221 lb/ft
>>Example 2<
130hp/191lb/ft etc
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Ok you can't chip a DTurbo, but I meant tune! You can get a DTurbo tuned quite simply:
YouTube - 306 D Turbo Stage 1 tune part 1
Tuning turbo diesel Peugeot 306 for better fuel economy and increased performance
YouTube - 306 D Turbo Stage 1 tune part 1
Tuning turbo diesel Peugeot 306 for better fuel economy and increased performance
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Not long ago had a 2.0 16V XSI 137bhp and now got a GTI-6 (167bhp)
The GTI6 is by far the better car. But the 16V XSI is also a cracking car, and can highly recommend.
Being petrol, there is no lag and loves to rev, its a light car, with light steering, clutch etc. Which all makes for a fun drive.
Both XSI's and GTI-6 can suffer from idle issues, which are normally sorted very quickly with a new stepper motor or MAP sensor. Other thing to watch is the clutch cable on the XSI which passes right past the engine and can get hot and perish the rubber sleeve, which can make the clutch pedal feel a bit sticky under foot. But nothing a new clutch cable can't sort.
My XSI proved to be bullet proof at the time and took some serious abuse on a track day. And my current GTI6 is still going strong with no mechanical falts or issues. Haven't worked out my petrol yet, and I know petrol prices have dropped, but seems to be miles better than any scoob I have owned and not by a small margin. Insurance didn't seem to make any difference between the XSI or GTI6 either.
Personally I don't think you could do much better than a XSI for the money.
The GTI6 is by far the better car. But the 16V XSI is also a cracking car, and can highly recommend.
Being petrol, there is no lag and loves to rev, its a light car, with light steering, clutch etc. Which all makes for a fun drive.
Both XSI's and GTI-6 can suffer from idle issues, which are normally sorted very quickly with a new stepper motor or MAP sensor. Other thing to watch is the clutch cable on the XSI which passes right past the engine and can get hot and perish the rubber sleeve, which can make the clutch pedal feel a bit sticky under foot. But nothing a new clutch cable can't sort.
My XSI proved to be bullet proof at the time and took some serious abuse on a track day. And my current GTI6 is still going strong with no mechanical falts or issues. Haven't worked out my petrol yet, and I know petrol prices have dropped, but seems to be miles better than any scoob I have owned and not by a small margin. Insurance didn't seem to make any difference between the XSI or GTI6 either.
Personally I don't think you could do much better than a XSI for the money.
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Hmm 10 y/o french reliability and build quality (i drive a my98 pug 406 btw)- check everything works - alarm/central locking often fail.
check all leccy bits, check for head gasket failure as well!
check all leccy bits, check for head gasket failure as well!
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Also the door wiring looms can fail (from being bent each time the doors open and shut) which can knacker the central locking - and alarm sirens fail - as do rear beam bearings (check the rear wheels don't have too much camber). power steering racks can also fail, so make sure it's nice and smooth when stationary to turn the wheel from lock to lock), and CV joints/boots and track rod ends may need replacing.
A bit niggly with various stuff requiring replacement at 8-10 years of age - but parts are dead cheap and I think they're a really good drive if you don't mind the occassionsal need for replacing stuff. I've got a modified S16 and also an 8v XSI - which is lovely to drive - but a bit under powered at the top end. 16v XSI is supposed to be a better bet and you can tune them with reasonable power gains to be had, but the 8v xsi isn't rubbish....
Pugs all leak oil too.... and drive shafts into gear box can wear.
XSi front brakes are rubbish but you can get gti6 calipers for about £100 which are a significant improvement.
All in all, none of my pugs have ever (touch wood.....) broken down, but have been religiously maintained - which isn't stupidly expensive - and are great to drive, but as they are starting to get on a bit, they do need to be looked after.... but for the money, think they're great!
A bit niggly with various stuff requiring replacement at 8-10 years of age - but parts are dead cheap and I think they're a really good drive if you don't mind the occassionsal need for replacing stuff. I've got a modified S16 and also an 8v XSI - which is lovely to drive - but a bit under powered at the top end. 16v XSI is supposed to be a better bet and you can tune them with reasonable power gains to be had, but the 8v xsi isn't rubbish....
Pugs all leak oil too.... and drive shafts into gear box can wear.
XSi front brakes are rubbish but you can get gti6 calipers for about £100 which are a significant improvement.
All in all, none of my pugs have ever (touch wood.....) broken down, but have been religiously maintained - which isn't stupidly expensive - and are great to drive, but as they are starting to get on a bit, they do need to be looked after.... but for the money, think they're great!