daves_scooby

a mate is thinking of a new car (hot-hatch) and has got it down to these i say ctr but he thinks astra, any opinions on what you would go for.

civic type r
clio 172/182
astra gsi/sri-t
leon cupra r
megane 225
something else

daves_scooby

if its something else what is it your thinking. thanks for reply.

stilover

Something else.

Focus RS.

Andy M3

Honda is meant to be the best for reliability - but I would have the Clio as it is the best all round package. The beauty of a hot hatch is it is cheap, the clio is frugal and fun IMO.

jays_madeup_subaru

wat about the cupra r,
looks amazing,
5 doors = practicle
reliable
and not too many of them about.
defo go for that or of course the amazin and truely under estimated gsi, underground and low key.......love it

Janspeed

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LOL!

jays_madeup_subaru

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pippyrips

voted type-r though the Leon is a very close second.

daves_scooby

you defo know wat your on about i could not agree any more.

RAJ27

Golf GTI?

jays_madeup_subaru

granted the type r is nice, however the ride is very hard!!!!!
this is why its between th leon and gsi for me!!!!!!
i am becoming very keen on the cupra r's!!!

daves_scooby

looks like people would go for something else but is it all focus rs and golf gti

daves_scooby

i would go ctr or lcr defo mate, but its up 2 u.

jays_madeup_subaru

OMG ive been lookin at the lcr's mate!!!!!
i love em, dunno, gonna av a think an see wat i really want!!!!!

daves_scooby

looks like ctr is a good choice jay, go and test drive 1 and see what you think. also test the lcr

daves_scooby

jay what about CIVIC TYPE R JDM EK9 cheaper and quicker than the newer 1's

Dream Weaver

Focus ST

wrx287

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How about the 1st R32 golf that came out? 240bhp and four wheel drive which came in 5 door aswell as 3 door if you want practicality

ScoobyDoo69

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The new Mazda 3 MPS? Seen one the other night and I think it looks great, has good power too!

Terminator X

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TX.

Jerome

Ditto.

I was put off French cars many years ago and will probably never have another. My parents have got 2, one new and one about 10 years old. My opinion on them hasn't changed.

Matteeboy

Agreed. Had one for a year and it was WAY more special than the rest listed here.
Sensibly priced now too.

J4CKO

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Clio 182, The Astra is better than people imagine, and tunes really well.

lestippp

Just don't buy French unless it has a warranty, they fall to bits!

I would say CTR, had two of the first uk models and they were awesome, ride is stiff but not as bad as stated, besides these are performance cars so this is expected.
Agree with Matt & WRX287 on the R32, brilliant cars but I am guessing that your budget may not suit as they still fetch £15 - 16k for a good, low milage example, they are also expensive to repair, so if money is tight keep away.

CTR's are cheaper now and reliable as hell, haven't heard of anyone having major engine trauma which is incredible given most of them spend 8hrs a day at 7000rpm. They have the best transmissions on the market outside of a porsche.

As a general rule you can't go wrong with Japanese or German.

Daz1121

If he doesn't mind a car that needs to be reved hard to get the best from it then the CTR is a good choice. If you want more power and torque at lower revs then I would go for the Astra turbo or Seat Cupra R. Hope this helps

stuh1981

I would go for a Volvo C30 T5

Matteeboy

Stuh - Bit over budget methinks and basically a rebadged Focus ST!

magicgreg

Former CTR owner here, test drove the Focus RS and Clio 182 and prefered the CTR over those 2, its a superb all round car!

G

16vmarc

I voted Clio.

mg driver

you cant beat an mg zs 180 for cheap thrills.
Very underestimated and very capable.