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Old 10 August 2007, 11:33 AM
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Drove a new TDCi 140 manual saloon yesterday (only 30 miles or so).

It was a TitX with standard suspension but optional larger alloys.

Impressions were: VERY quiet and refined. Almost zero road / wind / engine noise. Felt very planted on the road and absorbed even huge bumps and potholes without crashing, jarring or shuddering.

Steering feels too light initially and could do with a bit more feel, but is very accurate. There's almost no body roll and handling is very neutral, with that nice Mondeo trait of feeling sharper and more pointy the faster you go.

Initial in-gear throttle response was much softer than my Passat 130 Sport (there was none of the VAG PD-engine shove in the back) but it picked up smoothly and strongly, and the speedo needle still climbed pretty damn quick .... the speed was deceptive because it's so quiet.

Overall, refinement and handling are excellent, even on badly-made B-roads. Very comfy and lots of toys too.

Looks like my next company car choice is made ...
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I think one of the magazines preferred it to the 3 series.

From my previous drive in a 2006 (last model) 1.8LX I can understand why. It had better steering feel and fun factor on a bumpy road than my E46 M3 I had at the time! It had a wonderful compliance but with good body control. Ford seem so good at this. Astonishingly competent.

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Originally Posted by john banks
I think one of the magazines preferred it to the 3 series.

From my previous drive in a 2006 (last model) 1.8LX I can understand why. It had better steering feel and fun factor on a bumpy road than my E46 M3 I had at the time! It had a wonderful compliance but with good body control. Ford seem so good at this. Astonishingly competent.
High praise indeed, why cant Ford do a proper fast version though ?

People buy all sorts, Soft Roaders, Sports, luxury etc but the Mondeo does most things better than most cars, shame its so ignored.
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Body control it certainly had. Ford claim the new shell is twice as stiff as the old on against flex and I can well believe it, the cliche of being "hewn from solid" was actually true.

Made my B5.5 Passat feel tinny & flimsy.

The order is in, so owner's reports coming soon
Old 10 August 2007, 08:34 PM
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TBH if ford could come up with a good large turbo diesel engine I think they would be laughing, with approx 200bhp / <225g/km and I think they would sell like hot cakes.
Old 13 August 2007, 11:28 AM
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It would take an awful lot to get Audi/BMW clones out of their overpriced blandmobiles into a Ford.

Interested in the estate version when it comes out though - My badge blinkers were removed about three years ago - very liberating!
Old 13 August 2007, 11:37 AM
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It's the estate I'm getting, so stay tuned

There will be a Ford version of the current Peugeot 170bhp, 2.2 litre twin-turbo engine in the Mondeo etc in 2008 .... although I've seen tests of this motor in the Pug 407 / 607, and it doesn't seem to offer much benefit in either performance or economy over the 2.0 Hdi ...
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Brickboy - Maybe Ford will add a little fire to it?

Ideal next car if they do.
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I believe the Ford variant of this diesel engine was meant to be around the 200bhp mark.
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To be honest Monedo's have always been excellent. The only area they score low marks is image, and unfortunately that is a very high priority for most people.

You cant really compare Monedo's to Audi/BMW's as they are much more expensive, but its probably fair to compare them to Passat's and I have to say I would still chose a Passat over a Monedo everytime.
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Petec - I wouldn't. Mondeos have far superior handling and are much better vfm. Having implied image isn't important to you, you pick a car which I seriously think is also chosen for image purposes.

I looked at the Passat and it had no advantage whatsover - worse handling, slower, lower spec, much pricier. Of course the dash is nice if that's important.
Old 16 August 2007, 10:29 AM
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200bhp diesel Mondy would be a winner
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Definitely interested in one of these for the car after next, when the prices have come down.
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Drop the D5 Vulva engine in..................interesting!
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Originally Posted by Blue Dragoon
Drop the D5 Vulva engine in..................interesting!
Quite heavy though.

There's a PSA/Ford twin-turbo diesel unit coming soon. In the French models where it's already in use, it makes 170bhp. That'll be the one to go for I think.
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Originally Posted by TopBanana
Definitely interested in one of these for the car after next, when the prices have come down.
That'll be next week then when they start banging them out through discounted retailers then

Only problem with mass market cars is finding them in the carpark LOL
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Originally Posted by what would scooby do
Only problem with mass market cars is finding them in the carpark LOL
Very true - another good reason not to buy a BMW or Audi
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Originally Posted by TopBanana
Very true - another good reason not to buy a BMW or Audi
or a 2008 Impreza
Old 22 August 2007, 05:50 PM
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I would have loved to get the 2.5T version of the S-Max or the new Mondy estate, but both fall outside of my company car scheme owing to relatively poor fuel economy and CO2 emissions. The 2.0T Passat didn't fall at this hurdle, which is why I ended up with one of those instead
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The only thing I dislike about the current model (I have the TDCi 130) is the wind and road noice at motorway speeds. The new one's meant to be much quiter, so it'd be ideal for me. Second hand you get far more Mondeo than Passat for your money, so it was a no-brainer for us. And they're less common the 3-series!
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