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Old 04 June 2007, 10:12 AM
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Just noticed the number of threads looking for a cheap and economical car to go "with" a petrol munching Scooby (or similar).

Now super unleaded is way over a quid a litre, is the high performance petrol starting to lose it's appeal?

A real shame as I love a decent petrol but my perfect car is now a soot chucker - 335d BMW.
I'd just like an Ariel Atom in the garage too!
Old 04 June 2007, 10:30 AM
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More the question are Subaru's and the likes of EVO's dying? i know loads of people who are selling their cars due to the ever increasing rise in Petrol.

You only have to look at Pistonheads classifieds.

qand yes i'm one of them, had mine up for ages and all i've had is farting about and timewasters, so like a lot of people i will get a runabout and use the Scoob at weekends.
Old 04 June 2007, 10:39 AM
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I'm looking to bring a nice 5.7l Corvette C5 Z06 into the country.

Two of my brothers have a 3l Supra and a 3.5l BMW, that'll mean an average of over 4 litres per car.

Old 04 June 2007, 10:44 AM
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Ive just sold my Impreza after 6 years of Subaru ownership and cany see me going back, at the moment im driving a Ford Ka and its a nice feeling knowing when you fill up with petrol its going to be a while before you have to make a return visit .
Im pretty sure my next car will be a Diesel, probably an Audi A4 or a BMW 3 or 5 series.
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Got rid of the Impreza and bought a new S3, partly because it returns better mpg. Next time a diesel will probably be the choice, although we have a Golf GT TDi as well.
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Matt - A black new shape S3 has "moved in" just down the road - Very nice indeed.
How's yours and did you see the Evo review on it?
Very quick motor!

I've never been hugely worried about the cost of a thirsty car - It's the range between stops that gets me.
Anything under 250 miles on a tank really starts to grate when trying to make good progress on a long journey.
I'd rather stop when I want to, not when my car has run out of fuel - Again!
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Are Gas Guzzlers dying out?

Sales of Gas Guzzling Performance SUV are up every year. So no, Gas guzzlers are not dying out.
For SUV's, if you can afford to buy one (£50k+) you don't really care about the cost of filling up.

However, like said above gas guzzling cars (Impreza's & Evo's) I believe are taking a hit. There seams to be alot of cars out there that are almost as quick but return better mpg.
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Old 04 June 2007, 01:20 PM
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Echo echo echo....!

I thought 4x4 sales were starting to slow?
Just seems to be a theme here on SN.
Old 04 June 2007, 02:38 PM
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I would never go back to a high performance large petrol engine, for me on the road the vast majority of the time I dont get to drive like I would like to and therefore use the performance. A large capacity TD for me everytime, effortless at going fast albeit without quite the same driving experience but everything in life is a compromise.
Old 04 June 2007, 02:51 PM
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All you need to do is buy a VAG 2.0T FSI engined car and you will get plenty of reliable power with high mpg!
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Matt - A black new shape S3 has "moved in" just down the road - Very nice indeed.
How's yours and did you see the Evo review on it?
Very quick motor!

I've never been hugely worried about the cost of a thirsty car - It's the range between stops that gets me.
Anything under 250 miles on a tank really starts to grate when trying to make good progress on a long journey.
I'd rather stop when I want to, not when my car has run out of fuel - Again!
I absolutely love it, very capable car, dare I say it more fun than a certain AWD car driven by many people on here . Not seen the Evo review, any good?
Old 04 June 2007, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Echo echo echo....!

I thought 4x4 sales were starting to slow?
Just seems to be a theme here on SN.

I love the new CRV though.
Old 04 June 2007, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
I've never been hugely worried about the cost of a thirsty car - It's the range between stops that gets me.
Anything under 250 miles on a tank really starts to grate when trying to make good progress on a long journey.
I'd rather stop when I want to, not when my car has run out of fuel - Again!
You've hit the nail on the head here. Convenience. My car will do about 260 miles before fill ups, my old Rangie will do about 300 miles on 80 litres and yet when I take the MCS out, I can easily get 380 or even over 400 if I ponce about.

Typically, my journies involve motorways with a bit of hooning thrown in and although I've got a fuel card having to stop so frequently is a pain in the ****.
Old 04 June 2007, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MattW
I absolutely love it, very capable car, dare I say it more fun than a certain AWD car driven by many people on here . Not seen the Evo review, any good?
Yes very good and it sets a new 0-60 hatch record (5.6s) plus a lap record too!
They very slightly prefer the 130i but I'd have the S3 any day.
Go pay your £4 and get a copy!
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Surely the cost of buying/owning/servicing/insuring/taxing/repairing an old diesel runaround is more expensive than putting in an extra £20 a week in fuel?

I'd do the maths, if I could be arsed.
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Yes very good and it sets a new 0-60 hatch record (5.6s) plus a lap record too!
They very slightly prefer the 130i but I'd have the S3 any day.
Go pay your £4 and get a copy!
I would but I'm in the US I'll mention it to the wife

Not a fan of the 1 series, just don't like the looks, very competent car I'm sure but i do like a Turbo

5.6 sounds about right, slower of the mark than an Sti but I suspect would be similar in gear. Difficult to compare as i had a Rover 214 in between so judgement clouded. Would be interested in trying an S3 with a 310bhp bluefin map, should be a hoot.

You decided on the Astra replacement?

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Don't like the 1 series either.
Wasn't keen on the old S3, but the new one seems a lot better.

I should think bonkers power is easily available with not a lot of work.
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Don't like the 1 series either.
Wasn't keen on the old S3, but the new one seems a lot better.

I should think bonkers power is easily available with not a lot of work.
Told you so

MK2 Audi S3.....faster than the 130i and R32 round a DTM racetrack by 2.5 secs a lap.
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Don't like the 1 series either.
Wasn't keen on the old S3, but the new one seems a lot better.

I should think bonkers power is easily available with not a lot of work.
Agreed, the old S3 just didn't cut it.
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Writing this while presenting - Gawd I'm good
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AL - We were discussing the OLD S3 when you wittered on.

I like the new S3, RS4 and the R8 looks good.
Apart from that, no Audi interests me in the slightest at the moment.
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
AL - We were discussing the OLD S3 when you wittered on.

I like the new S3, RS4 and the R8 looks good.
Apart from that, no Audi interests me in the slightest at the moment.
So 3 is not alot then?

how many vauxhalls or subarus interest you
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I went from 2 Imprezas (21mpg) to a VW Bora TDi 130 (46mpg) and I've just bought a Toyota Soarer 4.0 V8 ( mpg)
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
AL - We were discussing the OLD S3 when you wittered on.

I like the new S3, RS4 and the R8 looks good.
Apart from that, no Audi interests me in the slightest at the moment.


Maybe an S4 too and I like the Q7 thingy as well
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Originally Posted by MattW
Maybe an S4 too and I like the Q7 thingy as well
and you guys will like the S3 engined TT quattro, and a 300/350bhp TT also

Oh and RS5

oh and R4
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Vauxhall - Top end Astras and Monaros ONLY.
Subarus - WRX and STI + RB320. Like the Forester 2.5XT but it's minging to look at.

Not sure about the S4 - A mate had one and it felt a big "bargy" - He upgraded to the RS4 which was a whole heap better.
It's being supercharged by MTM very soon!
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you find a vxr astra interesting and a wrx
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TT? Not for me, not into Coupe's
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Alive and kicking in my garage: Jag V12 and a Monaro

And the Monaro runs on 95RON - just like Imprezas

As long as there is money in the bank, that will remain the case


I actually fancy building a Cobra replica or GT40, but using a LS7 Corvette engine; Sod originality The LS7 is far superior than a heavy old cast iron Ford.

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