Remster

After years of thinking about it, I am now in a position to enter the world of 911 ownership. Having researched the pro's and con's of all variants, I feel the 993 (last of the air-cooled models) ticks all the right boxes. We currently have an Audi A4 1.9Tdi Avant Sport as the family vehicle which I will continue to use when the weather is bad or a long journey presents itself.
My wifes Fiesta will be sold! YEEEESSSSSS!
Therefore, I predict mileage on the Porsche will be circa 6k per annum. It will be tucked up in my heated garage whilst not in use.

I would be interested to hear ownership experiences/nightmares and also opinion on the car below which i'm very tempted by.

Specialist Cars (GB) Ltd : PORSCHE 993 C2 RS Spec

Chris L

That is a lovely looking 911 Remster Get yourself over to Blowdog's site : Stuttgart 9s - lots of good advice to be had there.

Chris

Sbradley

Another great site is 911 virgin - porsche sales. used porsche for sale uk. Porsche 911. Porsche Boxster. Porsche 944. Porsche 928. - helpful, friendly and have forgotten more about 911s than most of us will ever know...

Enjoy, whatever you do - great car.

SB

davyboy

Specialist cars certainly deal in the top end of the market, and I'd guess that car to be worth good money. I'd suggest a 993 RS spec car should include more than just a body kit though.

Budget 2k a year to run.

stilover

The only thing I'd question on that particular car, is why it's already had 6 owners in 11 years?
I thought most Porsches were kept by their owners for longer than your every day cars would be, as most (high spec specialist car like the RS's) are used mostly as weekend cars.

Nice looking motor though. Have thought getting a 911 (both 993 & 996) myself. Only top spec 993's (RS, Turbo's) would be the ones I'd consider.

Tidgy

mate went form a scoob to a 911 (new one) and it was the biggest disapointment hes had, ended up being back in a scoob.

Andy M3

I love the 993's. My old boss used to have a regualr Carrera 2 - superb car, handled great, sounded fantastic.

I have read about the one they run in the Evo mag, that chap said it cost more to run than he thought, but still not that bad.

good luck in your search

Edcase

Isnt that a 964 RS?

stilover

Think he means the Silver one Jethro was running around in. A service with new tyres cost £2k.

Andy M3

I haven't bought the mag in ages - but yes I am refering to Jethro's Porsche

Shark Man

The 993 probably is the last true 911 before Porsche got too carried away bowing to the knees of city dwelling desk enthusiats with making them too heavy and turning it into a easy to live with Grand Tourer.

Later 911s are just a rear engined 928 imho, good, but if I wanted a car that drove like a 928, I would have bought a 928 in the first place

The 993 is easier to live with than the older cars, it has a better interior layout and few more creature comforts like the dreaded power steering (why? ), but some people want that (unlike me ) so to them its a boon.

Personally I'd go for an older model (more raw to drive) or a Carerra RS, or a GT2 at a push (car in the ad is NOT a RS - just has the bodykit ).

Horses for courses though

Chris L

Sort of see where Shark Man is coming from (I don't think that history will look that kindly on the bog standard 996s (in the context of the entire 911 range that is)), but it is a little unfair - they did make some crackers (996 GT3, GT2, GT3 RS spring to mind - I don't these were 'bowing to the knees of city dwelling desk enthusiasts').

Some of the changes were forced onto Porsche aswell (such as the change to water cooling, which was essential for the newer multi valve engines) and I don't think anyone would describe the interior of a 993 as masterpiece of design from an asthetic or ergonomic perspective - it does look very dated compared to modern cars.

Having driven the latest 997 C4S I would say that Porsche are very firmly back on track - it's a beautiful car to drive and judging by the reviews it has had and the new GT3 and GT3 RS, I don't think Porsche has forgotten its heritage.

Edcase

Agreed, aside from the new 997 gt3, its 993 all the way for me. Having said that I'm actually on the look out for a 968 cs at the moment.

stilover

The one I'd like (Turbo, GT3 aside) is the 996 C4S. In either Black, dark Blue, or Silver. Sports seats prefered. Black leather interior.

Prices are still to high to even consider buying one.

Is it just me, or do alot of Porsche buyers (mostly 996) have awfull taste in colour choices. Some of the interior colours around are just Vomit inducing.

davyboy

Whilst the interior does look a bit dated, the quality of the materials used on older porsches are way better than newer cars. Be interesting to compare an early boxster and 996 against a car twice its age.

Shark man I dont think the guy is looking at spending 60k for 993rs or over 100k on a 993 GT2.

Edcase

Davy - how come the 993rs is still so expensive?

I'd love one but couldn't imagine paying over 45k.

davyboy

While you may think they are vomit inducing, they can't be accused of being boring.

davyboy

Simple supply and demand, there are just not many about, Unlike the GT3 and GT3RS of the 996 and 997.

The 964RS and 993RS were never built in such numbers and fewer remain!

Shark Man

Ummmm, Porsche : Carrera RS 2.7

Didn't have to abe a 993 or a RS (above is a replica), as personally, I said I prefered the older and rawer cars

davyboy

Me too, BTW that's no genuine 2.7 RS.

Not enough digits in the price

Shark Man

I know

Remster

Nice one guys, thanks for the input.

As has been said, the build quality and materials are much better on the 993 variant compared with the newer 996. The interior of the 993 does look dated but is very functional. I haven't been in the new 997 yet but from reading reviews, it appears that they have listened and improved things.

I would love one of the much sought after rarer Porsche models but have a budget of only £30k max. This is why I arrived at looking for a good 993 rather than an early 996.

Time to get out there and look at a few I suppose. The Specialist Cars 993 RS bodykitted car is in Manchester which is not exactly local to me, i'm in Leics. Might take the wife shopping at the Arndale Centre and pop off to take a look.

Alternatively, anyone in Manchester care to go and take a look at said car for me? Would save me the trip if it's ropey.

davyboy

It won't be ropey from Specialist cars.

In fact I reckon you could buy it blind.

mightyyid

Love the cars - owned two of them. First was a Carrera 4, with about 80,000 miles on it and was a top quality car in a very rare grey colour that looked great (but I owned it while in Aus).
Welcome to My Photo Album: ap 993 2

Second was in the UK, a 97 Targa, which while a lovely car with only 24k miles on it (which I wanted to keep low so bought a Rover 214 as a daily drive), it was noticeable that the Targa was built on the convertible chassis and not the standard car as it flexed more than it should.

Welcome to My Photo Album: background

Plenty of good forums, lots of great info and a sound to die for. Nothing beats turning that key in the dash, watching the levels go up, as does the noise, and listening to the beat behind you. Awesome.

Meant to say - running costs were great. Both used less fuel than my WRX PPP, servicing was fine and respectable (even in Surrey), parts OK and did not really need much (rear wishbones I think), and insurance was cheaper than the WRX as well with exactly the same circumstances. But WRX was £20k, and the Targa cost £37k. Then again, I sold the Targa 2 years later and lost £1,500 in that time on the resale value. I sold the WRX after 1.5 years and lost nearly £8k...

Nürburg_Ringa

Sport160

If your looking for a targa a guy I work with has this one for sale

Porsche : 993 Targa 1996-N Reg

Again, rather a long way from you though

Gompo

Not meaning to be rude, but I think you might be getting mixed up..

The one for sale in the original post is at Specialist Cars GB, in Manc - From what I've read on another forum, I wouldnt buy a car from there without knowing it's exact history.

You are maybe thinking of Specialist Cars of Malton? Heard lots of good stuff about them - and they also happen to have a few nice 993's in.

993 C4

993 C2

davyboy

Ah yes, your right!

cat7

specialist cars of malton do seem to price their cars to the upper end of the scale. Saying that if the prep and warranty are top draw then probably worth it, both essential in porker land.

Remster

mightyyid, Thanks for your input, I love the Carrera 4, colour looks good, not your usual silver/blue.

Cheers Gompo for clearing up the Specialist Cars confusion .

It's time to start driving a few local to me in order to get the feel for a good 'un.