gatty

just been looking at these hondas, fantastic looking and on paper fairly quick. Having had a couple of different kind of sti's and evos would the performance and handelling be boring compared to the scoob or evo?

any comments would be appreciated.

Roojai

I drive a dc-2 and boring is not the word. They do not have much torque but they rev to 9000rpm and sound awesome. Performance is similar to a UK scoob but a very different drive.

dc-5 has more power than a dc-2 but is heavier so about the same if not slower.

They handle very well, well balanced, good suspension and anti-roll bars come as standard.

gatty

yeah i noticed the torque figures aint much kop. is it expensive to mod these cars? supercharger? turbo? ££££££££?

Cyberevo

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These cars are not designed to be run with Turbo's or Supercharges, if that's your bag stick with the subarus.

I'm not quite sure about your comments worrying about a DC5 being boring, there is nothing more boring to drive than a 4 wheel drive 4 door saloon (apart from a rep mobile)

I have a DC5 tuned ot about 260bhp (all N/A) and the sound, handling and sheer drivability are all top notch, would I go back to an Sti or EVO? Probably not, plus I've had the DC5 for 2 years nearly which is the longest I have ever kept a car.

For sheer outright straight line performance they are not as quick as an Sti or EVO but for driver enjoyment it gives me 10/10

HTH!

gatty

4 wheel drive?

Blueblaster

I could be in the market for a track day car next year. What have you done to your engine to get it up to 260bhp? That's 130bhp/litre which beats every other NA road car. Is it too noisy or peaky for road use?

Cheers

Edited to say I agree with your comments vis a vis 4wd....zzzzzzz

The Chief

Surely a DC5 running 260bhp would keep with a 300bhp STi PPP - if you take into consideration tranny losses and all that and power to weight.

Meant to be really sharp around a track.

SineSTI

It was probably Jackson supercharger?

GrahamG

I like these and if they are anything like the CTR they will be a fun car!

Bat-Fink

Know someone whose got a DC5 very cool car and summant different.

Jamesemt

Along similar lines, are the Integras as flighty as CTRs in the wet?

Blueblaster

Lob some Goodyear Eagle F1s on the Civic and it'll stick to the road like a limpet. Wet or dry. The Ingetra should be even better with it's slippy diff.

Cyberevo

iTrader: (1)

No supercharger, just cams, GruppeM Induction kit, toda manifold and toda exhaust together with a KPro.

Blueblaster

Surely it isn't possible to fit higher lift cams than those already on the VTEC engine? Can you give me some idea of where the high lift cams kick in and what the new rev limit is? Logically, given that the engines are hand made and totally bullet proof, there should be no need to uprate any more of the internals. Is it kind of like a 1980s turbo to drive or does it still retain the smoothe changeover from one cam to the other that is now the norm with modern VTEC engines? Really interested in this...thanks for the replies.

Cyberevo

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The cams give it about an extra 10bhp if mapped from scratch, the induction kit and catless exhuast/sports manifold give it a bit more. THe V-TEC now engages at 4.5k revs whereas before it was 6k, mine will rev to over 9k RPM but I do not red line it.

The Mods and Kpro give it much more power in the mid range and smooths out the torque curve, the V-Tec kick in is not as pronounced, I perfer it that way as I like power from instand trottle press, rather than wait (like turbos), plus I find the N/A car is much earier ot balance on the throttle nad feeding in power is quite a lot of fun.

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gatty

i am keen to test drive one of these dc5's , looking through the web theres so much conflicting info on mpg? 0-60? top end? handelling? also keen to know how big the boot is , big enough for a double buggie?

is running this car expensive? insurance, service etc...

Cyberevo

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Boot is ample, seats drop down, 0-60 varies as tracking can be a bit of a pain unless the road conditions are perfect, but once rolling then they can fly, top end is probably 145-150+

Service costs are not too bad but labour varies from dealer to dealer.

CharlesW

Here is a picture of the boot.



With the rear seats down. There is a massive amount of room!

juggers

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Gatty my mate has a dc5 he wants a quick sale at 9k come and have a test drive

STI -V4

hey jugger any more details on your mates dc5 - may know some1 interested - if possible pm me some details

cheers

gatty

lol even though i am a racist!

where abouts are you?

juggers

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I am based in manchester,if you buy the car i will let the racism slide.

Its in champion white 2002 on a 52 plate has 18k on the clock.

Dark Blue Mark

Does it? Mine didnt. My S2000 went to 9k though.

I had a supercharger on the S (although didnt run it) and hundreds of US guys have gone FI. The Honda VTEC's respond very well to supercharging.

MB

imi

I dont understand why someone would buy a Honda only to get it forced induced - just stick with the scoob in that case...

CyberEvo - 260bhp for those mods sounds a bit too generous...glad you enjoy the car though...

gatty

the look of one of these alone gets the wallet out . the intirior is better than a scoob.

its somthing different. just seeing if it does the business on the road?

Dark Blue Mark

Imi, you're missing the point

Its like saying why by a scoob and mod it when you can buy a Skyline.

A lot of us like to tinker. There's no harm in adding FI to Honda's. Its an easy way to bolt on another 100 bhp and can only cost about £3k.

Mine:




MB

Dark Blue Mark

Under 3k for a DC5 S/C upgrade

CPL Racing : Products

Fooking bargain.

MB

TonyBurns

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Or a fwd car, they are just sooooooooo boring to drive its unbelievable, if you were a REAL man you would have a rwd car but instead you go for the "easy" fwd "boring boring boring" option, hey there you go, call 4wd boring but you drive a fwd, you cant speak

Tony

imi

Roojai

Ok, Ok, the rev limiter cuts in at 8700 rpm, but that is close enough to 9000 for pub talk....