Porsche Boxter 3.2
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Porsche Boxter 3.2
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Anyone had one? I'm interested but not sure.
Jsut want to know the rough running costs/Performance etc.
Cheers.
G.
Anyone had one? I'm interested but not sure.
Jsut want to know the rough running costs/Performance etc.
Cheers.
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my old man has the 2.7, costs him a fortune on servicing and labour charges.. (so he always moans about anyway) but he obviously likes it, as he has kept it for a couple of years now..
performance wise, the 2.7 is not very quick, my CTR will keep up without much hassle at all..
imagine the 3.2 would be quite a bit more fun..
performance wise, the 2.7 is not very quick, my CTR will keep up without much hassle at all..
imagine the 3.2 would be quite a bit more fun..
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AIUI, the running costs are Porsche servicing (pricey) and the performance is nothing that would impress Impreza owners. But the point of the car is the driving dynamics - not how fast you get there, but how much you enjoy it.
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I'm 25 in feb and thats when i'm looking at getting one, I don't want the 2.5 or 2.7 because i think they will be too slow. Really need to go test drive one. If a CTR keeps up with a 2.7 it has to be the 3.2. Loved my CTR but need something a little quicker.
Whats the average service cost? basic service is probably about £500! sounds lovely!
Whats the average service cost? basic service is probably about £500! sounds lovely!
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Originally Posted by 2000 sport
my old man has the 2.7, costs him a fortune on servicing and labour charges.. (so he always moans about anyway) but he obviously likes it, as he has kept it for a couple of years now..
performance wise, the 2.7 is not very quick, my CTR will keep up without much hassle at all..
imagine the 3.2 would be quite a bit more fun..
performance wise, the 2.7 is not very quick, my CTR will keep up without much hassle at all..
imagine the 3.2 would be quite a bit more fun..
btw bhp/ton is 166 vs. 181
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My buddy has a 2.5 and they are not that slow 0-100 in about 17-18 seconds and a top speed of 151 is not to be sniffed at.
Obviously it wont keep with my Subaru but mine has 280bhp in a Classic shell.
handling they are superb and do not roll as much as a scooby and i'd say dry grip they are superior - the roles are reversed when the roads and conditions get sh*tty howver. and they are quite wide at the rear so hoofing it down narrow B roads calls for a bit of concentration.
The only think with the 2.5 is you have to rev it foir it to go but it sounds great above 4000rpm especially with the roof down.
Running costs: go to a specialists and when you buy make sure the tyres are good as these can be expensive. My mates has been a damn site cheaper to run then my Subaru especially fuel consumption low 20's -30+ mpg taking it easy.
Lovely to drive nice solid feel with quick steering and fantastic brakes.
My only gripe is the low end shove compared to a turbo car but to be honest its not that sort of car.
Beware of RMS (rear main seals as well) before you buy as this is a big job if they go (you'll get a good un or a bad un)
maybe pop over to Boxanet they have more of an idea.
Obviously it wont keep with my Subaru but mine has 280bhp in a Classic shell.
handling they are superb and do not roll as much as a scooby and i'd say dry grip they are superior - the roles are reversed when the roads and conditions get sh*tty howver. and they are quite wide at the rear so hoofing it down narrow B roads calls for a bit of concentration.
The only think with the 2.5 is you have to rev it foir it to go but it sounds great above 4000rpm especially with the roof down.
Running costs: go to a specialists and when you buy make sure the tyres are good as these can be expensive. My mates has been a damn site cheaper to run then my Subaru especially fuel consumption low 20's -30+ mpg taking it easy.
Lovely to drive nice solid feel with quick steering and fantastic brakes.
My only gripe is the low end shove compared to a turbo car but to be honest its not that sort of car.
Beware of RMS (rear main seals as well) before you buy as this is a big job if they go (you'll get a good un or a bad un)
maybe pop over to Boxanet they have more of an idea.
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Cheers guys, i will keep looking into it. Sound like the service costs might not be too bad. I would def find a specialist if i get one.
I still need to get insurance quotes. Hopefully that won't be too bad.
I still need to get insurance quotes. Hopefully that won't be too bad.
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Originally Posted by Pedro_79
I seriously doubt that a ctr would keep up with a 2.7 in a straight line, especially once on the move.... not saying the ctr would be destroyed, but the boxster would defo pull away imo.
btw bhp/ton is 166 vs. 181
btw bhp/ton is 166 vs. 181
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Used Porsche buyers are paranoid about service history so when considering a non Porsche garage for service you should check for info on the owners club site, If you are going to buy a 3.2 you will have a lot of money invested and a poorly rated garage in the history could really hurt your resale.
They are great cars and drive very well if looked after, I think your insurance might be a pleasant surprise if you have insured a scoob before.
They are great cars and drive very well if looked after, I think your insurance might be a pleasant surprise if you have insured a scoob before.
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Originally Posted by WHEELSHOP0_0
Used Porsche buyers are paranoid about service history so when considering a non Porsche garage for service you should check for info on the owners club site, If you are going to buy a 3.2 you will have a lot of money invested and a poorly rated garage in the history could really hurt your resale.
They are great cars and drive very well if looked after, I think your insurance might be a pleasant surprise if you have insured a scoob before.
They are great cars and drive very well if looked after, I think your insurance might be a pleasant surprise if you have insured a scoob before.
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Originally Posted by 2000 sport
his is the auto / tiptronic version.. (dunno if that makes a difference) but the boxster does not pull away
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Originally Posted by GrahamG
It is! I have just found out that it will be £680! wow I was expecting around £850 - 1k. Very Happy with that! That was on the 2.7, they said there was not that much of a hick on the 3.2 either.
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A mate has one and he's a bit handy with a spanner so services it himself, avoiding the biggest ownership problem. It's only a 2.5, so it feels very slow although that's only because it's so nimble. He has a 996 engine waiting to go in it over the winter though, should be good!
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Originally Posted by The Chief
Just to let you know the 2.7 is regarded as a more balanced unit pushing 220bhp (i think) and as far afaik Hayward and Scott now do an exhaust system and along with a de-snorkel liberates a few extra horses.
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Why? please ellaborate
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Originally Posted by crofty
Didn't feel that fast to me (3.2S), steering a little numb, I know people rave about them but it left me a little dissapointed, overated Imo
My 280bhp Classic pans my mates yet i wouldn't discount one because of that. i'd say they need revving i admit but as for the steering - lovely.
Fair comment - each to their own
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Cost/value for money has a large bearing on how much you enjoy your car, If you spend £25k on a 3.2 porker or £25 on an STi, the STi will have warranty, pace in poor weather(esp.) and the "chav" type image which we all suffer from now, the Porsche gives a more "pure" driving impression and unless you always drive like a hooligan will stay with most cars on the public highway. imho anyway
However in two years time if you think its time for a change your wallet will thank you for choosing the porker it will be worth more than the STi as it already has done the initial depreciation that the scoob has not.
It probably wont have been stolen and will have cost you less in ownership.
However in two years time if you think its time for a change your wallet will thank you for choosing the porker it will be worth more than the STi as it already has done the initial depreciation that the scoob has not.
It probably wont have been stolen and will have cost you less in ownership.
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Hi, I had a 986 2.7 for around 18 months. I px'd my 03 WRX (TEK3 c.270bhp) for it, my 2.7 was a 2003 car with 12,000 miles on the clock from an OPC. Paid £34k for it, had almost every option incl nav, leather, 18s, met paint, sound pack etc. Origional invoice was 42k
Speed wise it felt very similar to the WRX. I had 156mph out of it, gps verified. 0-60 wise its quick, not AWD quick but once you get into 2nd gear it will show its light weight and really start to wind up. Handling wise its just about the best you can get, mid engine RWD with perfect balance. I was very impressed and I have driven lots of decent cars in my time. Most impressive was the handling in the snow - perfect. It was more than fast enough for me anyway and most people who had a drive of it also said it felt a lot faster than 230bhp.
Anyway I digress, another reason I went for the 2.7 was the fact that the 986 3.2 I drove did not feel that much quicker. Sure the in gear acceleration was a bit better but for me it was not worth the extra 5k. Insurance was also a lot more - I was 24 at the time and it was £1600 for the 2.7 or £2300 for the 3.2.
Service costs were high, I wont lead you up the garden path. The 24k miles service cost me a £1000. The base price was £600, then add £180 for brake fluid change and £200 ish for front pads. However a basic service should be IRO £300 from an OPC. Tyres are expensive too, IRO 200 a corner. If you do low miles these things are not an issue but if you do anything like "normal" miles i.e 12k a year or more then I would look at putting about £100 a month to one side for running costs (on top of fuel).
If you get a 986 make sure you get one with a good warranty, RMS is a well known issue along with front shocks. Gear selector cable can also go. Engine failure can happen - its rare but it can go - this costs £7k, so make sure you have a good policy.
If you go for a 987 then make sure the OPC give you extended warranty FOC.
Hammer them to a good deal - its possible.
The only reason I got rid of my 986 was because it had done 30k miles and the warranty was up. I knew it was going to depreciate quickly at 30+k so sold it before I lost too much. I managed to get just over £20k for it, which is where my final comment comes in. Depreciation can be a real killer on these cars. I lost IRO 14 grand in 18 months. That is serious money. So buy smart, if I had known that the 987 was going to depreciate the 986 so much I would have waited and just got a 987 to start with.
I have been considering another Porsche recently and I think the Cayman S might be a good buy in another 6 months when Boxster sales are strong.
Check out Welcome to BoXa.Net... for more info.
Final note, try if you can to buy from an OPC - they are more expensive but it gives you a lot more leverage if something goes wrong and you are a proper customer then and you get a lot better service - IME.
Speed wise it felt very similar to the WRX. I had 156mph out of it, gps verified. 0-60 wise its quick, not AWD quick but once you get into 2nd gear it will show its light weight and really start to wind up. Handling wise its just about the best you can get, mid engine RWD with perfect balance. I was very impressed and I have driven lots of decent cars in my time. Most impressive was the handling in the snow - perfect. It was more than fast enough for me anyway and most people who had a drive of it also said it felt a lot faster than 230bhp.
Anyway I digress, another reason I went for the 2.7 was the fact that the 986 3.2 I drove did not feel that much quicker. Sure the in gear acceleration was a bit better but for me it was not worth the extra 5k. Insurance was also a lot more - I was 24 at the time and it was £1600 for the 2.7 or £2300 for the 3.2.
Service costs were high, I wont lead you up the garden path. The 24k miles service cost me a £1000. The base price was £600, then add £180 for brake fluid change and £200 ish for front pads. However a basic service should be IRO £300 from an OPC. Tyres are expensive too, IRO 200 a corner. If you do low miles these things are not an issue but if you do anything like "normal" miles i.e 12k a year or more then I would look at putting about £100 a month to one side for running costs (on top of fuel).
If you get a 986 make sure you get one with a good warranty, RMS is a well known issue along with front shocks. Gear selector cable can also go. Engine failure can happen - its rare but it can go - this costs £7k, so make sure you have a good policy.
If you go for a 987 then make sure the OPC give you extended warranty FOC.
Hammer them to a good deal - its possible.
The only reason I got rid of my 986 was because it had done 30k miles and the warranty was up. I knew it was going to depreciate quickly at 30+k so sold it before I lost too much. I managed to get just over £20k for it, which is where my final comment comes in. Depreciation can be a real killer on these cars. I lost IRO 14 grand in 18 months. That is serious money. So buy smart, if I had known that the 987 was going to depreciate the 986 so much I would have waited and just got a 987 to start with.
I have been considering another Porsche recently and I think the Cayman S might be a good buy in another 6 months when Boxster sales are strong.
Check out Welcome to BoXa.Net... for more info.
Final note, try if you can to buy from an OPC - they are more expensive but it gives you a lot more leverage if something goes wrong and you are a proper customer then and you get a lot better service - IME.
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Welcome to BoXa.Net...
Guys on there will be more than happy to help and give an owners opinion.
Ive had both the 2.7 and the 3.2
The 3.2 had much better mid range, as you would expect.
Guys on there will be more than happy to help and give an owners opinion.
Ive had both the 2.7 and the 3.2
The 3.2 had much better mid range, as you would expect.
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Originally Posted by Pedro_79
I seriously doubt that a ctr would keep up with a 2.7 in a straight line, especially once on the move.... not saying the ctr would be destroyed, but the boxster would defo pull away imo.
btw bhp/ton is 166 vs. 181
btw bhp/ton is 166 vs. 181
Test drove a 986 'S' and found it so competent it was dull. A truly excellent car that deserves all the positive reviews, but so grippy and so well balanced that it has to be driven very fast to be fun. Think about it, how many Boxsters have you seen driven enthusiastically? Says it all really.