talizman

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I had occasion to drop into a Pug dealers today with a colleague who fancies a 206cc (I know, I know.....)

Anyway, the salesguy didn't seem to know his product when asked certain questions.....

I asked, so does the 'cc' suffer badly as a result of the additional weight when compared against the hatchback model...

"Of course!, it weighs almost double" he replies without a hint of sarcasm.....

Oh yeah, I see the hatch weighs 1125kg against the massive 1152kg of the cc.... I'm sure the extra 27kg must be a real bugger to lug around.....


I then asked if the model we were looking at was the 138bhp version, due to it wearing the 2.0 litre alloys. I was told that the alloys are no longer 2.0 litre specific and this model was in fact a 1.6 and not a 2.0 as I wrongly assumed.

So I asked what power the 1.6 put out, to which he replied, "its also 138bhp"

We made our excuses and left!

Andy M3

I have seen it so many times before. The only satisfactory experience I have had at a dealers has been Porsche. That goes for sales, service and part. The rest are pretty poor. Shame i am won't see a porsche for some time yet

AudiLover

I dont see the problem.

Also the cc doesnt weigh just 27kg more its 52Kg.

talizman

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The problem is that the salesman thinks the cc is far heavier than it is, and he also thinks that both the 1.6 and 2.0 litre engines put out 138bhp.

Anyone can see the problem.



BTW, from Peugeot.co.uk....

Peugeot 206 cc 2.0 litre 16v kerb weight - 1152kg
Peugeot 206 hatch 1.6 litre 16v kerb weight - 1125kg

1152 minus 1125 = 27kg matey

hth

AudiLover

I got the figures from whatcar.com

Usually the weight difference would be alot bigger than 27kg from the hardtop to droptop version. So the 206cc chassis must be quite crap.

Was wrong about the power bit though I think I must have misread it.

talizman

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Whatcar must have been talking about the 1.6 cc, cos bizarrely enough, the 1.6 weighs 1215kg and the tiptronic 1.6 cc weighs 1252kg!

Weird that the 2.0 cc is just 1152kg I admit, however I'll take Peugeot's word for it!

carl

Not convinced. We had a 2.0 206CC and when I did the maths it was around 100kg heavier than the hatch. There are three hydraulic rams in the boot, for a start (although no spare wheel). I thought it was around 1250kg, i.e. similar to a Mk1 Scoob.

talizman

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Well if Peugeot are quoting 1152kg for the 2.0, I'll take their word for it over yours... No offence

They do say that the 1.6 tiptronic is 1252kg which is the figure you are quoting so perhaps your figures are mixed up.

Either way, 1152kg for the 2.0 cc vs 1125kg for the 1.6 hatch is a no brainer.

carl

Well it seems unlikely that the auto box weighs 100kg more than the manual. Even more if you take into account the 1.6 engine weighing less than the 2.0.

BTW if you think the 2.0CC will be fast, think again. They only managed to get half-decent performance by having very short gearing. It's 20mph/1000rpm in 5th, which makes for a not very relaxing ride on the motorway.

PS: You would be wrong to believe the Pug website over me. I have the handbook from our 206CCSE (couldn't find it when I traded it in):
1.6 manual is 1215kg
1.6 auto is 1252 kg
2.0 manual is 1227 kg

talizman

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No one suggested it was fast Carl

At least the 2.0 with 138bhp won't be as asthmatic as the 1.6 when lugging the cc body around.

I reckon the HDi would be an interesting prospect with 180lb/ft and 57mpg

BOB.T

Having worked with Pug technical data, I wouldn't trust 'em to tell me it's raining!

carl

The HDi sounds ideal, but it's only a 1.6
What the CC actually needs is a 1.9TDi or something petrol-powered with a blower.

talizman

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I know what you mean mate, but with 110bhp and 180lb/ft, isn't decent mapping potential there?

150bhp and 250lb/ft shouldn't be too unattainable surely?