nickwrxstiV2

I'm after a car for my girlfriend as she's just got a new job. We only want a cheap runabout for her. I've thought abot the 106 diesel would be cheap to buy/run and insure.

Most of the 1996/1997 models come without PAS, has anybody had any experience of these models without PAS, are they quite light or not?

She was driving my old 205 Gti non-PAS, now that was heavy!!!

Any help/feedback appriciated!!

OllyK

You need to remember that the 205 GTi had big fat tyres on it, a 106 oil burner will have pram wheels on it.

sbk1972

Ive got a Citroen AX 1.4 Diesel, which his very similar. Both cars started with a 1.4 oil burner, then moved up to a 1.5. Do suffer from weak HG, porous heads, and I had to swap my head over for a 106 I found in a scrap yard.

Built out of paper, well felt like it :-), but I found it cheap, 60mpg, quite pokey, and could run on veg oil, half tank of diesel / half tank of rapeseed oil from tescos. £15 would last me 600 miles.

However, wouldnt want to crash in it though, and when cold, noisey :-) Selling mine tonight (hopefully) to a mate's mate, 101K miles, put 4 new tyres on it, 4 door, tax / mot, £250 to get rid of it.


SBK

nickwrxstiV2

Cheers SBK!

I'm not happy about the build quality of the 106 TBH, I wouldn't like her to have a crash!

Just been having a look at the 306, much better car, same insurance, might be less MPG, but they nearly all have PAS!

Anyone?

sbk1972

Nicky,

I dont blame you. 306 is a far better car and one I would prefer my g/f to use. The AX is a town car, therefore if you had to go far, use the mways, then I wouldnt suggest it.

Best of luck in your search.

SBK

nickwrxstiV2

Cheers SBK,

We would be using it for a 200 mile motorway trip sometimes as my Scooby is awful on mpg!!

wide

Wife has had her saxo 4 years with no power steering and shes used to it, but when I get in after the scoob its like driving a bus, and thats a 1.1lit so should be light

hades

Have been running a 306 D Turbo myself of late for long runs. Not quite as economical as the 1.4 106, but is a comfortable cruiser on the motorway, whilst the 106 struggles to keep pace with normal traffic. Also only G5 insurance, enough torque to overtake, a lot more space without being a big car, many have electric windows & sunroof etc etc. The 1.9 Turbo D is also one of the most reliable and long lasting engines out there - change the oil and filter often enough, 200k miles is nothing to them. You'd be struggling to find one over £2k to be honest.

If you want to come to Berkshire, now I've moved and stopped commuting, I could probably even do you a deal on a nice black 306 D Turbo

sbk1972

Sold my AX 1.4 diesel last night. Lovely little thing really, never went wrong, and had a little tear in my eye. Sold it for £250.

SBK

Stainy

I'd have given ya £300 for it

Matt_taylor

My sister has one, she is only 17, great little car now,

paid about 600 quid for it on a M plte, steering bit heavy parking but nowt to complain about, though us men can drive better lol!

bottom end went on it me and a mate rebuilt it in a weekend and got it running sweet as a nut!!

the one she has has a nice interior and rcl some other little nice touches like sunroof, metallic paint etc

Stu_M

I had a 106 1.4 Diesel to do the work run, was very economical, it halved my fuel bills to what the Teg cost. It was horribly slow, not even the equivalent to a 1 litre petrol car so would go for the 1.5 diesel given the choice. Didn't have power steering and after being used to driving a car with it it will feel heavy at first but you get used to it and its not really a problem.

Unfortuantely it is now off the road with head gasket gone, a regular problem with this engine from what i can gather and from what people have said in this thread, so unless your just buying it for short trips to the shops would try and find one thats been recently had HG done or go for a 306 with the stronger 1.9 diesel.

nickwrxstiV2

Well, decided against the 106 and bought a 306 tonight!

1.9 Diesel (non turbo)
84,000 miles
Elec windows and elec sunroof
PAS
new wishbones and track rod ends

£500 !!!!!!!!!!

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

Dont blame you
Just note that the 306's can and do have a habbit of suffering from head gasket problems, its not very noticable as they dont really over heat that much but if you get a loss of water then thats probably the biggest sign you will see oh and also check to see if the heater matrix is ok, should be blowing scorching hot as if its knackered its a real pain to fix

Tony(owner of several 306's at this time )

hades

Good car for the money, IMHO.

From my recollection, fairly limited experience and occassional posting on pug306.net, head gasket problems tend to be a likely issue mainly/only if you have turned up the boost on the TDs, or if you keep thrashing (relatively, it is a diesel!) the engine when hot. I might be wrong (owner of just the one 306 in my time) Agree that the heater matrix appears to be a commonly reported issue, also water retention in front door seals leading to damp footwells (at least on the 3 doors) - but what 10+ year old car doesn't have one or two bits of "character"?!

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

Yes have this problem at the moment on my S16 did they have a solution to it?

Tony

Fuzz

I see you've already bought the 306, which was the right choice, but i'll still add me 2p's worth if I may.
I've owned a few peugeots in the past, an early 106 rallye, a facelift 106 rallye, a facelift 306 D-Turbo, a 306 Roadster, and now back to a 106 but this time it's only classed as my "****box", it's the 1.5 deisel because ,as has been said above the all ally 1.4 version was prone to head gasket failure.
It couldn't pull my foreskin back but it does do 59 to the gallon, costs £200 quid to insure (even with points and because it was my first "second" car I had no NCB to use on it) A tyre cost £17 quid and I bust something in the front shock absorber a few weeks ago Yumping it over a hump back bridge on my daily comute to work (everyday occurance if the road is clear), two shock inserts cost £45 quid and that is the only thing I have spent on it so far.
It does however have an oil leak (as they all do ) but it's no big deal, it's stopping the unbderside from going rusty anyway.

The 306 D-Turbo was probably the best of the bunch for a relaxed comfotable quiet drive, oodles of torque (especially after Van-Aken had played with it) did 40 to the gallon no matter how you drove it as well.

both rallye's and the roaster were toys so they had their niche.

Andy

Fuzz

If someone has fitted aftermarket front speakers then the plastic vapour barrier needs to be re-instated above the speaker PROPERLY.
Rain runs down the window into the door but becasue of the convex shape of the door if the plastic trim is not sealed it will run down inside the door panel and into the door seal / in the cabin...


Andy