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Old 26 June 2005, 04:22 PM
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Default Seat Leon cupra? Amybody raced one?

Got on a slip road onto a dual cariageway today and noticed an enthusiastically driven Leon Cupra (53 plate) behind me. Put my foot down, was in 2nd gear at about 30mph and accelerated hard to about 80mph in 4th. The cupra stayed with me the whole way!

What sort of performance do those things have?

FYI I drive a MY2000 UK Turbo (Standard except D/V)

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Old 26 June 2005, 04:25 PM
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leon cupra r has a 1.8 20v turbo engine with 225bhp, quite a match for a standard uk scoob
Old 26 June 2005, 04:37 PM
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Yeah I guess from a standing start the Scooby would be faster but mid range they will be quite similar.
Old 26 June 2005, 05:14 PM
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The Cupra R is the fast one, the Cupra isn't quite as good! I test drove one when i was last changing cars, and it was faster than my classic turbo in everyway - except it couldn't quite get the power down coming off islands etc (even with TCS on).
Old 26 June 2005, 05:36 PM
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I spent 2 hours Saturday afternoon driving a Cupra R round Mallory park with an instructor sat next to me. I have to say I was proper impressed. Managed to use a whole tank of fuel, say 80/90 miles worth? So I guess in that period I clocked up 60/70 laps. The last session was 50 mins non stop and the car lapped it up. No brake fade, no overheating tyres, just kept performing. There is no way on gods earth my scoob would have coped with that.

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Old 26 June 2005, 05:47 PM
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Came up behind one on a road I knew well in the STi, the day it had had the PPP fitted so it was not running to it's full potential.
Young lad inside took off like a scolded cat really trying, I kept up with him no probs but had no oppertunity to overtake, manly due to the fact it was unsafe which didn't stop the lad nearly totaling the Cupra r on a car just about to pullout of a side road.
Oh to be young and foolish.
Old 26 June 2005, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by compshack
Came up behind one on a road I knew well in the STi, the day it had had the PPP fitted so it was not running to it's full potential.
Young lad inside took off like a scolded cat really trying, I kept up with him no probs but had no oppertunity to overtake, manly due to the fact it was unsafe which didn't stop the lad nearly totaling the Cupra r on a car just about to pullout of a side road.
Oh to be young and foolish.
How do u mean nearly totalling on car waiting to pull out? If it had pulled out its the puller-out's fault - so hardly foolish.
Old 26 June 2005, 06:50 PM
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Of course all of this was taking place on private roads????
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Old 26 June 2005, 06:58 PM
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red cupra r in licoln raced it 1 month ago it was about the same he just might have had the edge on me last week added a fmic and z5 ecu with chip to my 93 scoob saw the same car in lincoln(we know each other)he saw me and i mullered him 3 up he was on his own.we both pulled over he was gutted but respected the lasted mods fmic(plus a few other bits)
Old 26 June 2005, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by compshack
Came up behind one on a road I knew well in the STi, the day it had had the PPP fitted so it was not running to it's full potential.
Young lad inside took off like a scolded cat really trying, I kept up with him no probs but had no oppertunity to overtake, manly due to the fact it was unsafe which didn't stop the lad nearly totaling the Cupra r on a car just about to pullout of a side road.
Oh to be young and foolish.
So he nearly crashed into another car which was about to pull out of a junction and you were sat on his bum....Doesnt that make you just as bad and just as close to the accident, possibly worse still for egging him on? If you'd have let him go he would have slowed down surely? ... rant over..

Oh and love the ppp just fitted so car not running to full potential comment ...... need to get that one into my ''scoobynet book of crap''


Gary

ps .... I would have a cupra R or a cupra diesel for sure.
Old 26 June 2005, 09:30 PM
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80 in 4th..? you can do around 95 in 3rd, you werent pushing it hard enough
Old 26 June 2005, 09:34 PM
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I had a cupra r follow me under full acceleration from 50 to about 90. He dropped back a bit but not much. Was quite impressed.
Old 26 June 2005, 09:35 PM
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I just bought a Cupra R for the missis 3 days ago. 03 plate with 18k miles.

Drives bloody nice, and is very very smooth through the gears. It's very quick, but certainly not ballistic like my STI.

Brakes are excellent, 6 speed box is silky smooth.

If I was in the market myself for a hot hatch, this would be the one.
Old 26 June 2005, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SimonGawthorpe
Got on a slip road onto a dual cariageway today and noticed an enthusiastically driven Leon Cupra (53 plate) behind me. Put my foot down, was in 2nd gear at about 30mph and accelerated hard to about 80mph in 4th. The cupra stayed with me the whole way!

What sort of performance do those things have?

FYI I drive a MY2000 UK Turbo (Standard except D/V)

Simon

Get rid of the D/V would be my advice.
Old 26 June 2005, 10:18 PM
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Yup ditch the d/v and get decat'd!
Old 26 June 2005, 10:22 PM
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I drove a cupra r for a quick 6 mile blast on a dual carridgeway with roundabouts every 2 miles late at night. was not that impressed. looses the pull in high revs and boost doesnt last long enough. seemed to struggle affter 3rd gear.

drove a std 05 wrx on same stretch a few weeks later and wrx felt a lot better
Old 26 June 2005, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by C2forWRX
I drove a cupra r for a quick 6 mile blast on a dual carridgeway with roundabouts every 2 miles late at night. was not that impressed. looses the pull in high revs and boost doesnt last long enough. seemed to struggle affter 3rd gear.

drove a std 05 wrx on same stretch a few weeks later and wrx felt a lot better
Same sort of roads i had, oposite experience ! Odd.. Then again I opted for a hairdressers car
Old 26 June 2005, 11:10 PM
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1 word!


REVO
Old 26 June 2005, 11:15 PM
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Yep, get a revo and see 265bhp and 280 lbs ft torque.
Had my S3 done last weekend and its deffo quicker than my 00MY turbo with Tek 2 was.
Old 27 June 2005, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
So he nearly crashed into another car which was about to pull out of a junction and you were sat on his bum....Doesnt that make you just as bad and just as close to the accident, possibly worse still for egging him on? If you'd have let him go he would have slowed down surely? ... rant over..

Oh and love the ppp just fitted so car not running to full potential comment ...... need to get that one into my ''scoobynet book of crap''


Gary

ps .... I would have a cupra R or a cupra diesel for sure.
Gary,

Yes you're right the car on the minor road would be at fault pulling out on a major road when traffic on the major road has priority. Highway code. That doesn't stop people doing it though. And BTW I was not tail gateing him, I was at a safe distance behind looking for oppertunity. I think a boy racer seeing a STi in his mirrors at any distance was enough to "egg him on" needless to say when he did see me he put his foot down.
And like I said in the previous post I let him go because it was not the time or the place to do any heroics.

As you well know when you first get PPP fitted the car is not immediately on "full power" because the ecu has to learn, it usually takes 200 to 300 miles for the engine to "sort it's self out". Well it has on both the STi's I've had anyway.
Old 27 June 2005, 10:45 AM
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I've owned a cupra R now for a few months and love it, once rolling there dam quick very strong mid range will keep pulling hard all they way to 140+

Having the Revo trail in a few weeks and will be doing testing at santa pod
Old 27 June 2005, 11:02 AM
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pah, still a spanish piece of junk though aint they

to be fair though Ive been out in AKs cupra and its bloody quick. scared me half to death and I have no doubts that it'll be as good as many subarus on the road. grips like a good un. fairly nice car to look at too, a proper modern hatchback.
Old 27 June 2005, 11:09 AM
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lol.. better than your jap crap

and thank you for the nice comment, that's got to be a first for you
Old 27 June 2005, 11:22 AM
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we'll see which is better. 2 weeks on saturday you *** is toast hey, u know all my nasty comments are only in jest

still european rubbish though
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Cupra R would out last an STi on track. STi might be quicker and pull away but 20 mins later it would be sat in the armco with non existant brakes whereas the Cupra would just keep on going.

Gary
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Hang on, I came up against one of these in my Non turbo and he couldnt lose me, he drove it like a ****.. I had to drop back a few times due to he being a tit, but he in no way lost me... and from the sound of his engine he was really trying...

If I had the turbo ... hang on.. I'm expecting a MASSIVE increase in power when I get my turbo.. sounds like I'm gonna be upset
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
Hang on, I came up against one of these in my Non turbo and he couldnt lose me, he drove it like a ****.. I had to drop back a few times due to he being a tit, but he in no way lost me... and from the sound of his engine he was really trying...

If I had the turbo ... hang on.. I'm expecting a MASSIVE increase in power when I get my turbo.. sounds like I'm gonna be upset
You sure it was a LCR
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Originally Posted by Scooby-doo97
You sure it was a LCR
Sounds very much like the R was not there!
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Its got great equipment spec, i had one of the wheels from the boot and it weighed bugger all (yep it does have a proper alloy as the spare) apparently they are magnesium and made by OZ.
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Originally Posted by SiDHEaD
Sounds very much like the R was not there!
Mmmmm a non turbo???? sounds like the C and the R wasn't there.


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