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Old 09 June 2005, 10:12 AM
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Hi guys

Is this a 24 valve engine as claimed or a 12v as I suspect it to be?
Got to set someone straight on this, although knowing my luck I'll be the one eating humble pie shortly



Might help if I mention it's in a Carlton!
Old 09 June 2005, 10:22 AM
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12v IMHO

Single OHC Vauxhaull/Opel straight six.

You would not have room for another 12valves under that rocker cover, nedless to say the 24v has two cams

Have a look at
http://www.senator24v.co.uk/rebuild.htm
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How many litres is the engine?
Old 09 June 2005, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Tobisausage
How many litres is the engine?
Could be 2.5, 2.6 or 3.0, IIRC
Old 09 June 2005, 10:35 AM
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deffo 12 valve!!

Its gonna be either a Senator 2.5/3.0 or a Carlton GSI 3.0....in red I suspect its a 12 valve Carlton
Old 09 June 2005, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by falkster
deffo 12 valve!!

Its gonna be either a Senator 2.5/3.0 or a Carlton GSI 3.0....in red I suspect its a 12 valve Carlton
It is a 12v Carlton GSi 3000..

Is the 12v any good then?
Old 09 June 2005, 10:47 AM
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IIRC on the 24 valve ones the plenum comes over the rocker top and in fact I do think it says 24V on the top of the engine, at the front
Old 09 June 2005, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Jap2Scrap
It is a 12v Carlton GSi 3000..

Is the 12v any good then?
Might get shot down for this but I do actually rate Vauxhall as they are reliable.....for that money Id snap his hand off......even if the engine went, its only gonna cost you 500 quid as oppose to mine going bang about 3k+
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Originally Posted by Jap2Scrap
Oi!

I was looking at that...

Great now all the SN numpties will want it

If it goes over £300 he can keep it.. lol
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The 12valvers are good...but the 24valvers are better

<adds to watch list>
Old 09 June 2005, 10:57 AM
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Awww thanks mate

Ali.. Keep yer mitts off
Old 09 June 2005, 11:02 AM
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3.0 24v GSi 1k buy it now

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...554085969&rd=1
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1K for a thrashed to death wreck.

Wonderful
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You will be lucky to find a nice one now, most thrashed to death.

They where quick and handled well, nice RWD and i have seen 155mph indicated in them before.

A real Q car in their day but that has sadly passed
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Not sure if I agree with the handling bit?? My dad had one and it was like a waterbed on wheels.....went like stink but make sure theres no corners
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Originally Posted by falkster
Not sure if I agree with the handling bit?? My dad had one and it was like a waterbed on wheels.....went like stink but make sure theres no corners
Thinking about it, the last one i went in was Irmisher kitted out, had uprated springs and shockers + different exhaust and spoliers from memory, it was in '93, mate was the DP of a Vauxhall garage in Leicester.

I thought the std one handled OK as well?
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Originally Posted by Jap2Scrap
It is a 12v Carlton GSi 3000..

Is the 12v any good then?
Hooligan motor A lot of power and RWD

The 24v is an even bigger beast, though
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It sold for £350.. real flurry of activity towards the end of the auction.

Too rich for my blood lol
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