codek

Hi all,

I watched an old top gear the other day where clarkson reviews the s2000, and he makes this statement:

out of 5m ( or was it 15m ) vtec units honda have made, none have gone wrong.

Now that simply can't be the case... I presume what they're saying is that the vtec system itself never faults, but that other parts of the engine presumably do...

Of course, if honda wanna give me an s2000 and i'll see if i can blow it up, then i'm more than willing to give it a go...



Dan

Dracoro

Yup, apparently no vtec systems have broken. The engines are solid too but obviously some go pop (mainly due to ignorant owners not topping up the oil, same with anycar really).

Put it this way, BMW's vanos(similar to vtec) don't quite have the same reliability

dingy

Mine has done 170k and 9000rpm all the time.....keeps going....

codek

Is that an S2000 you have then? Wow! Have you simply serviced it as required, or in addition to requirements?

dingy

Nope its a crx Mk2 - first Vtec lumped car.....keeps on going

brybusa

Not surprising really..Honda developed the technology over 20 years ago

JoeyDeacon

My brother has a 1600 VTEC in his rallycross mini and that had covered 85,000 miles before it went into the car. We simply changed the cambelt and oil and it has not missed a beat in nearly 3 years. I know from the previous owner of the car we took the engine from that he caned it every time he drove it too. The sump had a massive dent in the bottom and it had actually bent the oil pick up pipe.

It is also bounced off the 8800 (Hit 8875 RPM according to the downloaded DTA data) RPM rev limiter every single gear change.

RS2 JIM

iTrader: (5)

Yeah my Civic was a Vtec and it screamed it's lungs out every time i drove it.

It's just a case of treating it with respect. Warm it up properly and let it cool down. Check oil and water regularly and they'll go on forever. I still see the car in Aberdeen sometimes. It belongs to a Rover mechanic who was chatting to a mutual acquaintance and it seems the car has never skipped a beat since he's owned it and that's 80k miles since i had it!!!!

If any engine was ever going to blow it would be that one. It was my first car......i drove it like i stole it and did all the foolish things new drivers do! It's low centre of gravity meant really really great handbrake turns!!!!!

Superb engine tho. Even for a wee 1600cc it had great power.

James

ScoobySnack

I own an S2000 and asked about this comment and I was told no engines have failed through VTEC failure.

J

EvoBarry

Don't forget, that claim from Honda is based on engines "still under Warranty" I'm fairly sure.

Even though the vtec systems are ultra reliable I simply cannot believe NONE have failed in all that time personally.

Having said that, mines still going strong

Comper100

My mate has a 1.6 vtec civic and i think its awesome, smashing engines!

160 odd bhp from a standard 1.6!!!

Dark Blue Mark

I guess the warranty bit is right as they probably cant account for the ones with 100k on them where people might not go to a dealer to have it fixed. That said, you very very rarely hear of a problem.

Honda are the daddies in my book

MB

SJ_Skyline

*Cough* Bull$hit *Cough*



I've blown a K20A iVTEC and I have the £3.5K repair bill to prove it (sub 20K miles)



And I'm not the only one - Pics of Andy's Broken K20A

Dark Blue Mark

Piston through the block isnt a VTEC failure Thats quite some mess though. You are in a massive minority though.... Ask how many scoob engines have gone pop

Am I right in thinking that piston has turned into a ball of metal?!

Not sure what they class as the vtec part though, guess its the hydraulic lifters / cams etc...

MB

TheBigMan

....was thinking the exact same thing.

Diablo

Warranty?

TheBigMan

Probably cos they refused to pay as his mechanical un-sympathy caused a fault.

<checks oil regularly>

03-CTR

love them or hate them (vtec engines that is) that's a remarkable feat for any engineering company at any level. has to be failure within the warranty period but i bet the stats are good for even 5-6 year old models.

Dracoro

RE: Piston through the block, going into 1st/2nd instead of 3rd/4th perchance No manufacturer could design against that unless we all start having automatics!

TheBigMan

....that might be the best route for some.

davyboy

You could design a clutch that breaks when you do that - they use this on the Porsche GT3 cup race cars. If you over rev the engine too much on a down shift, to protect the engine it breaks the clutch.....a cheaper solution.

TheBigMan

'Fool'proof too.....

Dracoro

And probably expensive on road cars, however nice idea. This thing hardly happens anyway, and those that do it soon learn the hard way not to do it again

Dark Blue Mark

http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=180609

Think this might be the one mentioned earlier

MB