Just been offered a Merc 560 SEC
12 November 2004, 04:00 PM
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Just been offered a Merc 560 SEC
A friend of mine has just come in and offered me a 1987 Mercedes 560 SEC in dark blue MOTed, taxed and running for £800 
I've just had a look at the trader and the cheapest one on there is £5k God I'm tempted but I'm not a fan of Mercs normally 
Please talk me out of it!!!!
I've just had a look at the trader and the cheapest one on there is £5k God I'm tempted but I'm not a fan of Mercs normally Please talk me out of it!!!!
12 November 2004, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by brickboy
There's your answer -- get for £800, into AutoTrader for £5K ono .....
Has to be worth an inspection and lengthy test drive at the very least
Has to be worth an inspection and lengthy test drive at the very least
hmmm sounds like an idea!
I have the guys number anyway so I'll have to have a think
12 November 2004, 04:15 PM
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Paul, you're obviously not from Yorkshire, then
Here's a bit of eye candy for you:
http://www.classiccarshop.co.uk/Cars...sec_velour.htm
http://www.classiccarshop.co.uk/Cars...des_500sec.htm
[homer simpson]Mmmmmmmm ..... big V8 ..... [/homer simpson]
Here's a bit of eye candy for you:
http://www.classiccarshop.co.uk/Cars...sec_velour.htm
http://www.classiccarshop.co.uk/Cars...des_500sec.htm
[homer simpson]Mmmmmmmm ..... big V8 ..... [/homer simpson]
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12 November 2004, 04:19 PM
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huuuge V8, RWD, fantastic reliability, massive profit whenever you choose to resell it...
nah, don't do it Paul...
Edit - the ultimate in wet trackday fun, surely??
nah, don't do it Paul...
Edit - the ultimate in wet trackday fun, surely??
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The missus really would kill me!
12 November 2004, 04:26 PM
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They're supposed to be pretty well bulletproof cars, from the pre-unification days of high labour rates and over-engineering ...... I've never seen one with anything more than very superficial rust spots.
I guess like any big barge, if it blows a head gasket or similar then it's gonna be costly, and tyres / brake pads will get a hard life but probably not much worse than the Carltons you've had ....
PS -- coming from Yorkshire as I do, most of my mates would have no qualms about buying low and selling high. Then again, perhaps I just know a bunch of undesirables
I guess like any big barge, if it blows a head gasket or similar then it's gonna be costly, and tyres / brake pads will get a hard life but probably not much worse than the Carltons you've had ....
PS -- coming from Yorkshire as I do, most of my mates would have no qualms about buying low and selling high. Then again, perhaps I just know a bunch of undesirables
12 November 2004, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by brickboy
PS -- coming from Yorkshire as I do, most of my mates would have no qualms about buying low and selling high. Then again, perhaps I just know a bunch of undesirables
Originally Posted by Cupramax
Mmmmmm PIMP DADDY
I believe it comes with two sets of wheels!
12 November 2004, 05:24 PM
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My mate's dad used to have one of these a good few years ago. I was shocked at the pace, but that was a while back as I said. It had over 250k miles on the thing and it was still driving like it was new. They're as strong as an Ox.
If anything did go wrong with it, you're only losing out on £800 max, and that's if you can't sell the bits off it.
You know you wanna
If anything did go wrong with it, you're only losing out on £800 max, and that's if you can't sell the bits off it.
You know you wanna
12 November 2004, 06:11 PM
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buy it ! my mate has two a 500sec and a 560SEL . He has spent a total of £400 maintaining both in the last year. (he keeps telling me) . He bought his (rusty) 1984 SEC for £1500 - think of the scoob upgrades you could do for the profit
12 November 2004, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Dazzler
If anything did go wrong with it, you're only losing out on £800 max, and that's if you can't sell the bits off it.
Guru Dazzler speaketh the truth.
13 November 2004, 10:52 AM
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As with any merc of that age there are good ones and bad ones.
I bought a 1990 300 E-24v (230BHP) for £1800 and traded it in for £2500 LOL
560 SEC check for :-
A/C compressor -- £1000 or more for a non-DIYer.
Climate control problems -- £500 or more for a non-DIYer.
Cruise control problems -- £500 for a non-DIYer.
Front suspension rebuild -- £1000 or more for a non-DIYer.
Rear suspension subframe mounts and differential mounts -- £350 for a non-DIYer.
Transmission rebuild -- £2000-2500 for a non-DIYer.
£4000 - £8,000 for a rebuilt engine.
Cracked head -- £2500
Check cost of interior trim bits as some mercs are dirt cheap - Glove box for my 300 was £4 new !!
SL interior bits a megabucks so worth checking the SEC prices..
I bought a 1990 300 E-24v (230BHP) for £1800 and traded it in for £2500 LOL
560 SEC check for :-
A/C compressor -- £1000 or more for a non-DIYer.
Climate control problems -- £500 or more for a non-DIYer.
Cruise control problems -- £500 for a non-DIYer.
Front suspension rebuild -- £1000 or more for a non-DIYer.
Rear suspension subframe mounts and differential mounts -- £350 for a non-DIYer.
Transmission rebuild -- £2000-2500 for a non-DIYer.
£4000 - £8,000 for a rebuilt engine.
Cracked head -- £2500
Check cost of interior trim bits as some mercs are dirt cheap - Glove box for my 300 was £4 new !!
SL interior bits a megabucks so worth checking the SEC prices..
13 November 2004, 01:04 PM
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As with any merc of that age there are good ones and bad ones.
I bought a 1990 300 E-24v (230BHP) for £1800 and traded it in for £2500 LOL
560 SEC check for :-
A/C compressor -- £1000 or more for a non-DIYer.
Climate control problems -- £500 or more for a non-DIYer.
Cruise control problems -- £500 for a non-DIYer.
Front suspension rebuild -- £1000 or more for a non-DIYer.
Rear suspension subframe mounts and differential mounts -- £350 for a non-DIYer.
Transmission rebuild -- £2000-2500 for a non-DIYer.
£4000 - £8,000 for a rebuilt engine.
Cracked head -- £2500
Check cost of interior trim bits as some mercs are dirt cheap - Glove box for my 300 was £4 new !!
SL interior bits a megabucks so worth checking the SEC prices..
I bought a 1990 300 E-24v (230BHP) for £1800 and traded it in for £2500 LOL
560 SEC check for :-
A/C compressor -- £1000 or more for a non-DIYer.
Climate control problems -- £500 or more for a non-DIYer.
Cruise control problems -- £500 for a non-DIYer.
Front suspension rebuild -- £1000 or more for a non-DIYer.
Rear suspension subframe mounts and differential mounts -- £350 for a non-DIYer.
Transmission rebuild -- £2000-2500 for a non-DIYer.
£4000 - £8,000 for a rebuilt engine.
Cracked head -- £2500
Check cost of interior trim bits as some mercs are dirt cheap - Glove box for my 300 was £4 new !!
SL interior bits a megabucks so worth checking the SEC prices..
Be quiet, there's no room for sensible post's on this thread
Paul stop p!ssing around and get investing
13 November 2004, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by what would scooby do
A/C compressor -- £1000 or more for a non-DIYer.
Climate control problems -- £500 or more for a non-DIYer.
Cruise control problems -- £500 for a non-DIYer.
Front suspension rebuild -- £1000 or more for a non-DIYer.
Rear suspension subframe mounts and differential mounts -- £350 for a non-DIYer.
Transmission rebuild -- £2000-2500 for a non-DIYer.
£4000 - £8,000 for a rebuilt engine.
Cracked head -- £2500
There you go, absolutely NO reason not to buy it now
14 November 2004, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by NotoriousREV
Nah, it's winter, you don't need air-con
Wear a coat if it's cold, open the window if it's hot
Ignore it, you can't use cruise control on UK motorways anyway, unless you set it 56 and drive like a trucker
Throw it away when it fails it's MOT
Turn the stereo up if you hear it knocking
You only need 1 gear on these anyway
Throw in a Chevy 454, it'll last forever. There's bound to be an American specialist in this conversion
See above
There you go, absolutely NO reason not to buy it now
Wear a coat if it's cold, open the window if it's hot
Ignore it, you can't use cruise control on UK motorways anyway, unless you set it 56 and drive like a trucker
Throw it away when it fails it's MOT
Turn the stereo up if you hear it knocking
You only need 1 gear on these anyway
Throw in a Chevy 454, it'll last forever. There's bound to be an American specialist in this conversion
See above
There you go, absolutely NO reason not to buy it now
Craig
24 January 2005, 01:05 PM
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Isn't that what Patrick Swayze drove in RoadHouse?
If it was a mate of mine, I'd have it in an instant if it looked comparatively straight!!
If it was a mate of mine, I'd have it in an instant if it looked comparatively straight!!
24 January 2005, 01:09 PM
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Manufacturer Mercedes-Benz
Type V-8
SOHC
16 valves total
2 valves per cylinder
Bore × stroke 96.50mm × 94.80mm 3.8 in × 3.73 in
Bore/Stroke ratio 1.02
Displacement 5547 cc
(338.499 cu in)
Unitary capacity 693.38 cc/cylinder
Compression ratio 10.00:1
Fuel system Bo KE-Jet fuel inj.
Aspiration Normal
Compressor type N/A
Intercooler None
Catalytic Converter
Max. output 299.1 PS (295.0 bhp) (220 kW) @5000 rpm
Max. torque 454.0 Nm (335 lbft) (46.3 kgm) @3750 rpm
Coolant Water
Specific output 53.2 bhp/litre 0.87 bhp/cu in
Specific torque 81.85 Nm/litre
Not bad - that's pretty potent actually. 0-60 in about 6.8, apparently.
EDIT: forgot to mention, it weighs 1748kg!
Type V-8
SOHC
16 valves total
2 valves per cylinder
Bore × stroke 96.50mm × 94.80mm 3.8 in × 3.73 in
Bore/Stroke ratio 1.02
Displacement 5547 cc
(338.499 cu in)
Unitary capacity 693.38 cc/cylinder
Compression ratio 10.00:1
Fuel system Bo KE-Jet fuel inj.
Aspiration Normal
Compressor type N/A
Intercooler None
Catalytic Converter
Max. output 299.1 PS (295.0 bhp) (220 kW) @5000 rpm
Max. torque 454.0 Nm (335 lbft) (46.3 kgm) @3750 rpm
Coolant Water
Specific output 53.2 bhp/litre 0.87 bhp/cu in
Specific torque 81.85 Nm/litre
Not bad - that's pretty potent actually. 0-60 in about 6.8, apparently.
EDIT: forgot to mention, it weighs 1748kg!
Last edited by Pedro_79; 24 January 2005 at 01:12 PM.