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Old 11 November 2004, 08:34 PM
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has anyone got any info on these? as im thinking about one,booked a test run for this sunday but would like a bit more info on them, the dealer says they are great far better than the 260 bhp scoob. but then again he would would'nt he
Old 11 November 2004, 08:45 PM
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I test drove one, it went well enough and it was obviously set up for europe inside proper speedo range/indicators on left etc However suspension was the worst i have ever ridden in. It gave me a headache and my jowels continuously flapped up and down and im not flabby.

I then test drove the MR340 which has Bilstein suspension, far superior but indicators on right and miniscule speedo as converted jap one (totally useless as an instrument in fact which is not good for your licence). Totally hooked me but speedo and lack of seat height adjustment was enough to put me off (wife is short) also fuel consumption looked horrendous, i left both cars with empty tanks after 14 miles and started with a 1/4. Service interval at 4500 miles though.

Try the 260 - but try a MR (any) before you make a decision as suspension is far far superior.

Then try a MY2005 Subaru and you will probably choose the Subaru.If you have some cash you may go for a jap spec Subaru and then you have something with good interior/driving dynamics and performance that is a far better buy than an EVO IMHO. However, EVO 9 is out in march 2005 so might have better interior and worth visiting again.

look here http://www.lancerregister.com/art_evobuyersguide.php

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Old 12 November 2004, 11:27 AM
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Then try a MY2005 Subaru and you will probably choose the Subaru.If you have some cash you may go for a jap spec Subaru and then you have something with good interior/driving dynamics and performance that is a far better buy than an EVO
is that your opinion? or fact?

why is the 2005 model that no one has yet FAR better than an mr340?

I would highly doubt it

If you want info on the 260, have a read on the MLR there is lots of info on it

basically its just an 8 gsr, still has 280bhp on most rr that they have been on. Has the 5 speed box and smaller back spoiler. Personally dont think the suspension is that bad, but agree the bilsteins on the mr are alot better. You can pick up a new 260 for 20k if u look around
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The 260 is in effect the budget Evo. Still a very competant car though and worth it's money.

I've been to several rr days with my mates and there cars and oddly most (if not all) PPP cars don't deliver the power they are supposed to. On one occasion a figure of just 235bhp was recorded instead of the claimed 260 (although said person was claiming it would be an easy 300bhp all morning). If the Evo is genuinely delivering 280 ponies the Evo could well set the standard for all others to follow
Old 12 November 2004, 12:23 PM
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yep funny how the "budget" evo competes with the top subaru!
Old 12 November 2004, 12:31 PM
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This is the old argument EVO/SUBARU. If you care to read my comment i said i thought the Subaru was the better BUY. It has a far superior interior, better service intervals, similar performance. I baulked at paying 33 grand for a car with such a low rent interior even with the very nice MR340 seats.

I was taken with the performance, of course, but didnt seem anything special over a Subaru STi PPP.

The 260 felt really good, I did toy with buying that and putting the Bilstein suspension on it, but who wants to buy a car and immediately rip bits off it. To be honest i thought the 260 was probably a much better buy than the MR340. All IMHO of course
Old 12 November 2004, 12:42 PM
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I totally agree on the interior, although its not that bad really the seats are far superior to those in a new jdm sti as they do their job, hold you in place when you are hammering the car around, I found the subaru seats you can just slide in and out of them. MAybe they look nicer, if thats what u want. Yes the 260 is a good buy i guess at 20k, i guess it all comes down to what u want and how you wanna do it. I wouldnt either buy a mr340 @32k+ or whatever they are.
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Originally Posted by Oranoco
The 260 is in effect the budget Evo. Still a very competant car though and worth it's money.

I've been to several rr days with my mates and there cars and oddly most (if not all) PPP cars don't deliver the power they are supposed to. On one occasion a figure of just 235bhp was recorded instead of the claimed 260 (although said person was claiming it would be an easy 300bhp all morning). If the Evo is genuinely delivering 280 ponies the Evo could well set the standard for all others to follow
Sorry to drift away from the original subject (nearly bought a 260 but ended up with a P1) but am I wrong in saying that RR's only record the BHP given at the wheels? Obviously this is going to be less than the manufacturers claim as they give the figure that is developed at the flywheel. A small amount is always going to be lost through the transmission. Could be wrong, but thats how I read into this one......

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Sorry to drift away from the original subject (nearly bought a 260 but ended up with a P1) but am I wrong in saying that RR's only record the BHP given at the wheels? Obviously this is going to be less than the manufacturers claim as they give the figure that is developed at the flywheel. A small amount is always going to be lost through the transmission. Could be wrong, but thats how I read into this one......
yeah ur right, they do give an atw figure, there are so many arguments about who to calculate the transmission losses some rrs do give atf figures but its arguable how they work it out, using %'s and so on

with the 260 though, its not manfucaturers or sales people claiming 280 its most people who have bought them i was lead to beleive. Standard gsr evo engine is 280bhp anyway so it makes sense, cant see them detuning it.
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Originally Posted by jason4656
yeah ur right, they do give an atw figure, there are so many arguments about who to calculate the transmission losses some rrs do give atf figures but its arguable how they work it out, using %'s and so on

with the 260 though, its not manfucaturers or sales people claiming 280 its most people who have bought them i was lead to beleive. Standard gsr evo engine is 280bhp anyway so it makes sense, cant see them detuning it.
My mates made 261, he was expecting a bit more
Old 12 November 2004, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jason4656
basically its just an 8 gsr, still has 280bhp on most rr that they have been on. Has the 5 speed box and smaller back spoiler. Personally dont think the suspension is that bad, but agree the bilsteins on the mr are alot better. You can pick up a new 260 for 20k if u look around

It's actually a 7 with the 8 front bumper.

First gear has a limiter on it which keeps the 0-60 time to 6 secs. However once rolling a very capable car.

I run an 8 FQ330 and mpg is no worse than an Sti PPP.

The AYC service at 4500 miles has been dropped as has the 1000 mile first service, however it still requires an oil change @ 4500. Service cost has dropped to reflect omission of the AYC change.
Old 12 November 2004, 09:34 PM
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i have an 8 about 400/400 servicing costs no more than my jdm sti did, i didnt know about the limiter, probably just use the 7s to get rid of them all typical mitsi lol

as standard my 8 and sti were the same mpg, but modified the evo is a guzzler about 13mpg on road and about 4 mpg on track lol
Old 12 November 2004, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jason4656
i have an 8 about 400/400 servicing costs no more than my jdm sti did, i didnt know about the limiter, probably just use the 7s to get rid of them all typical mitsi lol

as standard my 8 and sti were the same mpg, but modified the evo is a guzzler about 13mpg on road and about 4 mpg on track lol
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Signed on the dotted line yesterday to trade in an unmodded 03 WRX for a new Evo 8 260. Still have a horrible feeling I may have made a big mistake but got totally seduced by the looks and the handling.

Drove the 300 also but couldn't live with it as easily as a day-to-day car.
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They do 3yrs free servicing on the 260 as well now don't they?
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Originally Posted by Eddy T
Signed on the dotted line yesterday to trade in an unmodded 03 WRX for a new Evo 8 260. Still have a horrible feeling I may have made a big mistake but got totally seduced by the looks and the handling.

Drove the 300 also but couldn't live with it as easily as a day-to-day car.
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another one bites the dust lol, sure u wont be dissapointed
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Originally Posted by jason4656
is that your opinion? or fact?

why is the 2005 model that no one has yet FAR better than an mr340?
I drove the MR340 a few months ago and the 05 STi is leaps and bounds in front as far as handling goes, also quite a few people have a 05 car now.

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I drove the MR340 a few months ago and the 05 STi is leaps and bounds in front as far as handling goes, also quite a few people have a 05 car now.
i do like the scoobs and never shoot them down, im not a reformed scooby owner, however i think you will find when they come head to head, that your opinion wont be quite the same as everyone elses, ive yet to see the day when scoobs start out handling evos, sorry thats just fact not my opinion
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Signed on the dotted line yesterday to trade in an unmodded 03 WRX for a new Evo 8 260. Still have a horrible feeling I may have made a big mistake but got totally seduced by the looks and the handling.

Drove the 300 also but couldn't live with it as easily as a day-to-day car.
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Picked up my Evo VIII 260 last Friday. So far so good, well pleased although the running-in schedule is punishing:

first 200 miles, 3.5K rpm
201-500 miles, 4K rpm
501-1000 miles, 4.5K rpm

arrrggghhhh. Can't wait!

Anyway, I ran a MY02 PPP WRX for a while and I loved it but the local dealer shut down and the next most local dealer (prior to Riding & C in Preston) was not good and I got completely disheartened with Scoob ownership, dreading service time. Anyway, I changed to an off-road 4wd in an effort of sensible-ness and cost saving (Diesel) but that didn't work so four months later I got a Civic Type R, two months after that I ordered the Evo....happy again.

Three years servicing (or 27K miles) on offer until the end of the year I think as well as £1K off but I also hear from the MLR of further discounts also being offered if you deal hard enough....

The two cars on my list were the MY05 STI and this EVO. I opted for the EVO because I like it being a bit less common, loved the handling (although only compared to a MY04), liked the Recaro seats (lardy ****!) and it was cheaper by a few grand. I opted for a leather/alcantara upgrade in two tone blue/black to lift the interior. The performance of the demonstrater was fantastic. Various opinions that these are around the 280bhp figure as std. with easy routes to more if you want it. Whether it is or not I'm not too worried apart from I'm down the pub comparing stats!!!
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Originally Posted by lucky_strike
liked the Recaro seats (lardy ****!) and it was cheaper by a few grand. I opted for a leather/alcantara upgrade in two tone blue/black to lift the interior. The performance of the demonstrater was fantastic. Various opinions that these are around the 280bhp figure as std. with easy routes to more if you want it. Whether it is or not I'm not too worried apart from I'm down the pub comparing stats!!!

I did not know you could get a leather upgrade? Howmuch did that cost you?? & what deal did you get?
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Cost me a £1K plus VAT... pic below, you get the seats done, the door cards in blue/black, black leather on the centre arm rest/console and a blue/black leather gear gaiter. It looks a nice job, black stitching on the blue leather and blue stitching on the black leather...


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Mog,are you serious!!!!!,the handling on the MR340 is leaps and bounds (as you put it) ahead of the STi05,still understeers like a dog,when will you get it that subaru are lagging behind the EVO at the moment and a few onor changes to the 05 model are not going to take near the MR which is still a VIII just wait till the IX hits the UK in the spring which once again has had improvements,having had both a STI and a VIII FQ330 and have a MR FQ400 on order i can tell you that the EVO defo quicker,the STI even with PPP is still not as quick as the FQ300 yet alone the 320,340 or the 400.....
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nellie...have you driven a Type 25, because if you haven't you should and then want to reconsider the MR400 order....

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I did consider a Type 25,but just love EVOs now,iv got plans to take the FQ400 to around 500hp and fit ohlins suspension...
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hasnt the fq400 got a locked ecu, so new ecu required plus the warranty would be stuffed
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Originally Posted by jason4656
another one bites the dust lol, sure u wont be dissapointed
Don't doubt we'll have another Scooby in years to come.

Since signing up for the Evo I keep drooling over that black STI that Ex-Pug is selling through this wesite. I didn't realise just how gorgeous you could make a blob-eye look!
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I would think the MR400 will be more like 415 420ish,the same as the other MRs under quoted,the 340 is more like 350,so the 400 with a decat and boost controller should see 460ish more than enough to see off the type25 and a lot more....LOL
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Lets not forget that the 05 Type 25 is better than the last one

I could allways mod it as well


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