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Old 17 September 2004, 09:42 AM
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Default A good, nice, quick car.

4 seats, reasonable size, quality, quick ish, good looker.

Suggestions please??
Old 17 September 2004, 09:46 AM
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Price?

Audi A6 - in 6 or 4.2 forms it's very quick but very thirsty
5-series - 530i upwards, or perhaps 530d
Old 17 September 2004, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by the moose
Price?

Audi A6 - in 6 or 4.2 forms it's very quick but very thirsty
5-series - 530i upwards, or perhaps 530d
Considering about 12-15k. More A4 / 3 series size as I want it to go in my single garage....
Old 17 September 2004, 10:11 AM
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You can get the Octavia RS for about 12/13 now as the new shape is out they are trying to sell numbers - bag a bargin i say
Old 17 September 2004, 10:25 AM
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Intergra Type R DC5

Old 17 September 2004, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy M3
You can get the Octavia RS for about 12/13 now as the new shape is out they are trying to sell numbers - bag a bargin i say
Awesome!
Old 17 September 2004, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by rusty1977
Awesome!
I hear with a Jabba remap, induction kit and a stainless zort you can have 250bhp and 358 lb/ft.
Old 17 September 2004, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
I hear with a Jabba remap, induction kit and a stainless zort you can have 250bhp and 358 lb/ft.
On the Jabba web site there is a couple of Ibizas with the same engine tuned to 350 bhp and 0-100 is 10 seconds ish
Old 17 September 2004, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by rusty1977
On the Jabba web site there is a couple of Ibizas with the same engine tuned to 350 bhp and 0-100 is 10 seconds ish

I saw that, amazing isn't it. Who needs a Cerbera/GT3 etc when you can spend 8 grand and be equally as quick......
Old 17 September 2004, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
358 lb/ft.
I think not...
Old 17 September 2004, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Cupramax
I think not...

I heard a jabba rempa makes any 1.8t engine into a monster powerhouse Porsche killer......
Old 17 September 2004, 12:02 PM
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Leon Cupra R maybe??
Old 17 September 2004, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
I heard a jabba rempa makes any 1.8t engine into a monster powerhouse Porsche killer......
Quick but no porsche killer with just a remap. They do an IHI turbo conversion however which takes things to a whole different league though.
Old 17 September 2004, 12:16 PM
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358Nm methinks... (264ft lbs). Okish.
Old 17 September 2004, 12:20 PM
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BMW M3 Evo ?
Old 17 September 2004, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by shamrock
BMW M3 Evo ?

Thats what I want. I'm trying to broaden my horizons but everything I look at points back to that. I have owned one before.....awesome.


The whole Skoda thing/Porsche killer stuff was a tongue in cheek joke.
Old 17 September 2004, 01:32 PM
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I'm in a similar position, been looking for a car around the £12k mark for a while and I feel the M3 offers the best all round package.
Old 17 September 2004, 02:31 PM
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Saab 9-5 Aero???

230bhp or 250 Bhp for a newer higher mileage model

Dont they do something like 50 - 70 the same as a porsche 911 turbo?

Or was that Top Gear Bull **it
Old 17 September 2004, 02:44 PM
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I've got some figures for the Saab 9-5 Aero but I'm not sure how accurate they are.

Saab 9-5 Aero 2003 250bhp 1630kg 155.84bhp per ton 6.87s (0-60) 17.06s (0-100) 10.19s (60-100)
Old 17 September 2004, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by shamrock
I've got some figures for the Saab 9-5 Aero but I'm not sure how accurate they are.

Saab 9-5 Aero 2003 250bhp 1630kg 155.84bhp per ton 6.87s (0-60) 17.06s (0-100) 10.19s (60-100)

Nothing wrong with that. Hmm, a possibilty......
Old 17 September 2004, 03:07 PM
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M3 Evo

1998 321bhp 1515kg 215.28kg per ton 5.18s(0-60) 12.15s(0-100) 6.97s(60-100)

I know it's not all about how quickly a car goes but those are attractive stats for a car with that type of build quality.
Old 17 September 2004, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
Nothing wrong with that. Hmm, a possibilty......
Go for the M3 i like the Saab you cant have the same car
Old 17 September 2004, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by rusty1977
Go for the M3 i like the Saab you cant have the same car

Coupe is a bit different though. Stiffer suspension and stuff. Saab is miles more insurable though.

Gotta sell the 944 first!!!!
Old 17 September 2004, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
Coupe is a bit different though. Stiffer suspension and stuff. Saab is miles more insurable though.

Gotta sell the 944 first!!!!
senior,,,why dont u stretch your financial legs just a tiny bit more and you can have my 2000 plate M5...... 0-60 in touching 5 top end of 169 mph...loads of room and bags of comfort too
paul
Old 17 September 2004, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by JonaJones
senior,,,why dont u stretch your financial legs just a tiny bit more and you can have my 2000 plate M5...... 0-60 in touching 5 top end of 169 mph...loads of room and bags of comfort too
paul

M5 is imo the best all round car ever produced. However, I can afford the car but the best quote for insurance I've had so far has been over £2600 !!!!

I'd love on....I really would. 2 or 3 years it should be viable.
Old 17 September 2004, 05:35 PM
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M3 Evo £7500-£15200 (1995-1999) 0-60 in 5.5 | 155mph | 25mpg
Merc C43 AMG £13750-£17000 (1997-2001) 0-60 in 5.9 | 155mph | 21mpg
Accord Type R £4800-£16500 (1999-2003) 0-60 in 6.1 | 142mph | 25mpg
S4 £10995-£21000 (1998-2001) 0-60 in 5.6 | 155mph | 22mpg

All are insurance group 20 apart from Accord which is 18, all similar parts & servicing costs, check VANOS unit on M3 (expensive), and C43 AMG front brake pads & disks cost about £1000 to replace! All have decent equiptment/spec apart from Accord which has less (to save weight no doubt) but leather Recaro bucket seats are apparently very good (an option btw).

all info from buyers guide in a previous issue of Used Car Buyer (from earlier this year so prices may be slightly less than above)

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Old 17 September 2004, 05:46 PM
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Civic type R.....?
Old 17 September 2004, 07:40 PM
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senior, im 37, have full no claims protected [i did 10ks worth of damage to a scoob a year ago], i drive an M5 [at the minute] parked on the drive, my insurance [including wife] off LV is £895 per full comp
this M5 of mine is getting more tempting isnt it lololol
paul
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S4, with a remap. Shouldn't leak oil, won't have lag and you won't need to get your hands dirty
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What about the Audi S6. It has the same engine as the S8, and also the RS6 minus the 2 turbo's. If I recall 0-60 in about 5.5 secs, and it has the advantage of having 4wd. I think the M3 is the looker of the 2. But just thought you should go for something a little more stealth.


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