saxo vts or 106 gti???
09 September 2004, 05:34 PM
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saxo vts or 106 gti???
as above peeps. heard so much about the 106 being best handling car in it's class, but isn't that the same for the vts as it's basically the same car, with nicer interiorIMHO
? the car is for myself as scoob ownership is going pearshaped at the mo, so as i can get either of the above around 4.5k....hopefully and as i've been on a traders policy from passing my test and a speeding conviction from 2001, these are about the nippiest motors for cheap money i can get about now. all opinions will help my mind ease, thanks.
oh and a yaris t-sport aint out the question
? the car is for myself as scoob ownership is going pearshaped at the mo, so as i can get either of the above around 4.5k....hopefully and as i've been on a traders policy from passing my test and a speeding conviction from 2001, these are about the nippiest motors for cheap money i can get about now. all opinions will help my mind ease, thanks.oh and a yaris t-sport aint out the question
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09 September 2004, 06:06 PM
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C&CC tested them back-to-back but that was before the Saxo facelift which also gave it better wheels and tyres.
They found the 106 ultimately had a better back end and thought the Saxo could result in some nasty back-end movements if provoked. Thought was it was maybe ARBs or even beam mounting bushes that were the difference.
After the facelift Saxo has the edge with its better wheels/tyres and modernified dash.
If it's anything like my AX, get a Haynes manual and understand the wiring as French electrics seem less than resilient over time.
J.
They found the 106 ultimately had a better back end and thought the Saxo could result in some nasty back-end movements if provoked. Thought was it was maybe ARBs or even beam mounting bushes that were the difference.
After the facelift Saxo has the edge with its better wheels/tyres and modernified dash.
If it's anything like my AX, get a Haynes manual and understand the wiring as French electrics seem less than resilient over time.
J.
09 September 2004, 06:19 PM
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Go with the VTS. Had both and enjoyed the VTS so much more. They are virtually the same car but prefered the handling and gear ratios in the VTS. Also looks better inside and out in my opinion. They weigh virtually nothing and are a laugh if you like a bit of lift off oversteer shernanigans.
09 September 2004, 06:23 PM
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The cars are very close to call. Most people prefer the interior of the GTI but I personally think it looks even more dated than the VTS. Outside I'd say the MKII VTS looks far more muscly than the skinny looking GTI. In a straightline they are the same with only bawhairs suggesting the VTS might be quicker in some publications on paper - on the road they are even. Handling wise the GTI has a more stable back end but IMHO the VTS's rear is perfectly fine if you actually have a clue how to drive! To say its adjustable would be a massive understatement!!!! You can chuck her into a corner with what you feel MUST be 10mph too much but yet the front holds well and a little lift gives a nice switch in attitude and a slide if you want. It takes no more than to brush the throttle and she smoothly comes back around You switch between understeer and oversteer easily on the throttle near the grip limit and believe me that limit is bloody high!!
You have to make a personal decision on which of the two you want The GTI generally has a better image but is more expensive and looks more girly IMHO. The VTS has a horrible image (sadly!) but is a riot and is cheaper.
You switch between understeer and oversteer easily on the throttle near the grip limit and believe me that limit is bloody high!!You have to make a personal decision on which of the two you want
The GTI generally has a better image but is more expensive and looks more girly IMHO. The VTS has a horrible image (sadly!) but is a riot and is cheaper.
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09 September 2004, 07:08 PM
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My Saxo looks like this..
saxo <<<<<link now working!
Very chav, but makes me laugh when a scooby overtakes and the kids in the back gape open-mouthed at the saxo.. Their dad must be fuming
Just to say I don't race anyone, and certainly know my place in the motor-food chain. I came from an MR2 and a GT4 to the Saxo so I'm well equipped to say they're good fun and lively but they ain't gonna set the world on fire
saxo <<<<<link now working!
Very chav, but makes me laugh when a scooby overtakes and the kids in the back gape open-mouthed at the saxo.. Their dad must be fuming
Just to say I don't race anyone, and certainly know my place in the motor-food chain. I came from an MR2 and a GT4 to the Saxo so I'm well equipped to say they're good fun and lively but they ain't gonna set the world on fire
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09 September 2004, 07:18 PM
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Saxo- Manly? LOL, heard it called many things but never manly. Maybe very camply manly
Personally I'd go for the 106 as they're more exclusive and lack the max power image.
Personally I'd go for the 106 as they're more exclusive and lack the max power image.
09 September 2004, 07:29 PM
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I was looking at both but then decided to get a Punto GT, same money but overall i prefered the Punto. Its bigger inside (106 was tiny) get a low milage one and it will be fine reliabilty wise as ive had mine a year and nothing has gone wrong. Performance wise i cant really comment as i didnt test drive the other two. The one thing i would say about a saxo is that it will make u feel 17 again but is that a good thing??
Oh watch out for idiots who cant park and hit your rear quarter!! that happened yesterday
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Low milage Punto GT was mint now has dent in rear quarter
Oh watch out for idiots who cant park and hit your rear quarter!! that happened yesterday
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Low milage Punto GT was mint now has dent in rear quarter
09 September 2004, 07:38 PM
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my missus has a Saxo VTS and its actualy a nice drive and quite nippy.
The only problem i can see is the pedals are to near together which does'nt make it easy to drive with anything over size 8 feet
The only problem i can see is the pedals are to near together which does'nt make it easy to drive with anything over size 8 feet
09 September 2004, 08:06 PM
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Agree with Dave on the pedals but you do get accustomed to it pretty quickly. My biggest niggle is the amount of rattles and squeaks that pop up and go away.
The link is working now in previous post so all pi55 takes welcome
The link is working now in previous post so all pi55 takes welcome
09 September 2004, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyJawa
The GTI looks far better IMHO, and doesn't have the image of the Paxo.........
There was also the fact it had lovely leather seats!
but its had some mods
09 September 2004, 10:47 PM
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106 for me, I think they look quite smart, and the image of the Saxo is nearly as bad as an old WRX No offence Saxoboy
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No offence Saxoboy MB
09 September 2004, 11:10 PM
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That IMHO is the key to modifying cars though - you make subtle mods to improve the existing style and look of them rather than fixing massive plastic bits to them
No offense taken DBM as well you know I don't have a saxo or a wrx for that matter I wouldn't let image put me off though. If I had £6k and was looking for a fun hatch I'd by a £5k vts and keep £1k for upgrades and to hell with what people think. Whilst they mock from the sidelines I'd be having a hoot and that's what its all about
No offense taken DBM as well you know I don't have a saxo or a wrx for that matter
I wouldn't let image put me off though. If I had £6k and was looking for a fun hatch I'd by a £5k vts and keep £1k for upgrades and to hell with what people think. Whilst they mock from the sidelines I'd be having a hoot and that's what its all about
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Originally Posted by Saxo Boy
That IMHO is the key to modifying cars though - you make subtle mods to improve the existing style and look of them rather than fixing massive plastic bits to them
09 September 2004, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Saxo Boy
Me too Now if you'll excuse me I'm off to find a 3 foot carbon wing for the boot of the 406
Now if you'll excuse me I'm off to find a 3 foot carbon wing for the boot of the 406 My neon washer jets will be fitted this weekend!
10 September 2004, 07:33 AM
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cheers lads....still no closer to working this out though, although i'm seeing that i will get the saxo mucho easier and cheaper. that's a good thing in the favour of the 106 for being exclusive, but not if i'm needing a car fairly cheap and quickly? unless i went for the quicksilver???
any more points or am i gonna have to go work it out by what the insurance is?
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Do work out the insurance, it's in group 14 IIRC
I had a VTS - fantastic car, reliable, fast, practical.
FWIR the testers reckoned the 106 handled *slightly* better, but you're not likely to see that difference in the real world.
I'd be driven by price and condition. Chances are with so many more Saxos that 106s you're more likely to find a good un
I had a VTS - fantastic car, reliable, fast, practical.
FWIR the testers reckoned the 106 handled *slightly* better, but you're not likely to see that difference in the real world.
I'd be driven by price and condition. Chances are with so many more Saxos that 106s you're more likely to find a good un