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Old 01 July 2004, 10:53 AM
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Thumbs up Honda S2000

Had a blast in one last night
Fabulous driving position, gearshift, brakes & when that digital rev counter hits 7k all hell breaks loose

Top motor.

Darren
Old 01 July 2004, 11:09 AM
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Yup they are fantastic aren't they that's why I owned one

A great, totally driver focussed car.
Old 01 July 2004, 11:17 AM
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Lethal RWD crap though......
Old 01 July 2004, 11:23 AM
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Of course. How I managed to keep mine going forwards at every corner I'll never know. How it survives without 4WD is a mystery. I think my S2000 must have had a serious fault as I never crashed it.

Hang on, maybe if you can DRIVE, it's not a problem. controversial idea though. Just imagine it, having driving ability and using it rather than relying on the car to do all the work
Old 01 July 2004, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Dracoro
Of course. How I managed to keep mine going forwards at every corner I'll never know. How it survives without 4WD is a mystery. I think my S2000 must have had a serious fault as I never crashed it.

Hang on, maybe if you can DRIVE, it's not a problem. controversial idea though. Just imagine it, having driving ability and using it rather than relying on the car to do all the work

PMSL - so true
Old 01 July 2004, 02:25 PM
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totally agree, although I can't drive and haven't crashed mine! yet.
Old 01 July 2004, 03:09 PM
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Didn't know you had an S2000 Adam ???
Old 01 July 2004, 04:27 PM
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from this



to this.............



hmmmmmm must drive

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Old 01 July 2004, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Dracoro
Of course. How I managed to keep mine going forwards at every corner I'll never know. How it survives without 4WD is a mystery. I think my S2000 must have had a serious fault as I never crashed it.

Hang on, maybe if you can DRIVE, it's not a problem. controversial idea though. Just imagine it, having driving ability and using it rather than relying on the car to do all the work
I was being ironic, taking the mick out of the "4wd is best and only way to go" club. My car is RWD to. The best. Front engined RWD. Awesome.

I like the S2000.
Old 01 July 2004, 09:38 PM
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I agree with all that say you need to be able to drive to apreciate a rwd,but its not all fun.
It is potentially very dangerousand loosing the back can mean loosing the car or god forbid more.

Just a couple of weeks ago I was talking to an s2k owner who only had it for a 3 months.he was telling me how he enjoys power sliding and loosing the backend coz hes an experienced driver.He took off and went to the lights 50 yards away.When they changed to green he sped off and wrapped it into a lampost.

Fortunately he was ok but his car wasnt.

I dont doubt that rwd drivers are better drivers but I dont think they are the best cars for public roads.

Scoobys are.

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Old 01 July 2004, 11:11 PM
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My mate who owns the car has driven lots of rear wheel drive cars & to be fair he says it has the most twitchy rear end of any he has driiven.
He is gonna take it to a track day to explore its limits.

Daz
Old 02 July 2004, 08:45 AM
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The best. Front engined RWD
I'd have to disagree - Midengined, RWD is the best
Old 02 July 2004, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by CraigH
I'd have to disagree - Midengined, RWD is the best

Yeah I suppose. I'm not quite Tiff Needel yet so front engined helps me a bit with weight distribution. (Eg not crashing.....touch wood)

Have you an MR2 or something like that??
Old 02 July 2004, 11:25 AM
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Craig,

I thought you knew, I was in it when I met you at bedford last.

It isn't officially mine, it belongs to my dad though my name is on the log book.

Basically he bought it because he liked it (midlife crisis methinks) and because the dealership is around the corner. He suffers from pseudo gout in his left foot which means he doesn't like driving manuals but lives 50m from his work and his wife drives so doesn't need a car.

When this happens, I take it at my leisure. It has helped keep me sane whilst waiting for the 22B to come back since its a little quicker than my golf gti runaround (125k and still going strong )

I am hoping that if I drive it often enough it will become a permanent resident of my driveway.

Engine note is glorious, fuel consumption excellent and it is great fun to drive especially with the roof down.

The revisions made in late 2001 make it far less twitchy then the older model.

Only concerns I have had was when accelerating hard off a roundabout on a gradual bend, hit 60mph and came on cam and the back step out massively. Was the first time it had happened to me, caught it and felt like a god but then slowed down as I was petrified - I only drive the thing third party!

then another time further up the same road, had to do an emergency/harsh brake from 70 on a slightly uneven cambered road and the front end was squirming all over the place. That was a little disconcerting.

if you treat it with respect apart from load lugging it can provide many of the pleasures of motoring. I love it to pieces, though looks wise I have to admit I am not that keen - black with red leather mar 02 model.

should point out we had a recurring problem of oil (mayonnaise) in the water. They diagnosed faulty head gasket, took the car for two weeks and replaced the gasket.

happened again - diagnosed dodgy head - took the car for three weeks and replaced the head.

happened again - diagnosed cracked block - took the car for a month and replaced short block.

Now we have a complete new engine which I was worried would affect the value of the car. The warranty has the balance of 6 years on it and the car is running better than ever. 35 to 40 mpg when off cam, and surprisingly ample low down torque and the best gearchange of any road car I can think of. It really does have a lot going for it, even with the engine problems with hopefully will not re occur.
Old 02 July 2004, 12:30 PM
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Have to say, when I drove one of these on track, it was a big disappointment - felt very wobbly - engine and gearbox great, but handling wasn't keen on. But that was in my Subaru days, so I didn't have a clue how to drive
Old 02 July 2004, 12:32 PM
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Bought mine brand new in November, never looked back. Loved the Scoob, but much prefer:

rwd vs 4wd - requires some skill
dont feel like a Chav driving the S2000, the scoob is now the Chav favourite
Much better running costs
Much better depreciation figures
Girls love it, they hated the Scoob, except Chav girls that is
roof down - great in the summer
scoob had terrible under steer esp on track
never looked back
Old 02 July 2004, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ADP
Bought mine brand new in November, never looked back. Loved the Scoob, but much prefer:

rwd vs 4wd - requires some skill
dont feel like a Chav driving the S2000, the scoob is now the Chav favourite
Much better running costs
Much better depreciation figures
Girls love it, they hated the Scoob, except Chav girls that is
roof down - great in the summer
scoob had terrible under steer esp on track
never looked back
A post worthy of the Scoobynet hall of fame.

Nice one!! ;-)
Old 02 July 2004, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Daz34
My mate who owns the car has driven lots of rear wheel drive cars & to be fair he says it has the most twitchy rear end of any he has driiven.
He is gonna take it to a track day to explore its limits.

Daz
Try driving a MR2 GT (turbo) with greddy turbo and 380 bhp, 'fiesty' is a word I used when driving it shortly after by...'please may I get out'....

Kidding, a bit. Great fun but I founf the Mk2's revision 1-2 a bit twitchy, even the N/A one. Used to have a G-Limited befor the scooby . After to many hairy moments in the rain and snow made me get the scooby. Do feel mutch safer.
Old 02 July 2004, 02:34 PM
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Taking my Mum's S2000 to Brunters in July, what tyre pressures do you recommend, I normally use my road settings in my Elise, do 1 session, check the pressure, and take air out and reduce to road settings?
Old 02 July 2004, 04:33 PM
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I've often toyed with the idea of an S2000. Great cars!! Becoming reasonably priced as well now!!

My mate said it didn't do much for him after driving one, which put me off a bit, but saying that he does drive a ZM Coupe.

Would people on here recommend one then if I were looking for a reliable RWD Convertible?

Cheers

J4CK50N
Old 02 July 2004, 04:41 PM
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Would people on here recommend one then if I were looking for a reliable RWD Convertible?
Don't think you're gonna find anything more reliable than the S2000. Do your homework and make sure any warranty work has been done and it's very easy to find a good one as there aren't many dogs. As with all of these types of cars check service history is all ok etc.
Old 02 July 2004, 10:48 PM
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I want one and will have one in a year or so I reckon. Got the Integra R for now

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Just looked back at my own post, a classic lol also had an ITR - great car too
Old 03 July 2004, 08:39 AM
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I recon it'd be a good buy J4ck5on, the lack of grunt is the only thing that sometimes bugs me, otherwise its a lovely car.
Its good fun revving them hard, and running costs are really low for a reasonably powerful sports car.

Your mate may well have been underwhelmed after a ZM, I must admit that after having had an RX7, I miss the shove in the back, but it makes up for it in a lot of ways.

You'll have to try a long test drive in one, if you're after something with a bit more go, they do an official Mugen one, a few examples of which are still knocking about (I think around 255BHP as opposed to 238), but as reliable convertable sports cars with a bit of poke go, there's not many better for the money.
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Amazing

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Old 03 July 2004, 06:54 PM
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Anyone had expereince of doing a long journey in one of these, my Monday drive is 220 miles followed by a repeat drive on Thursdays, I've got a Mk4 Golf at the moment (GTi Turbo) and it's a little uncomfortable..

What is the wind noise like at high speeds with the roof down?
Old 03 July 2004, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by dij
I dont doubt that rwd drivers are better drivers but I dont think they are the best cars for public roads.

Scoobys are.

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You are joking I hope? How do you think people survived before all the 4-wheel drive cars were around, when it was the old Mk1&2 escorts and the capris. RWD cars aren't difficult to drive, especially the modern ones with all the traction control. Thats the trouble with imprezas, lancers, skylines and things like that, brilliant cars, fantastic engineering and technology, but anybody can get into them and drive them fast, then when something happens and the car can't save them they don't know what to do and can't handle it. Learn a lot from driving one of the old school RWD cars, try a Mk2 escort RS2000 for a week or two, endless fun and learn a thing or two about driving.
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Originally Posted by Adam M
Only concerns I have had was when accelerating hard off a roundabout on a gradual bend, hit 60mph and came on cam and the back step out massively. Was the first time it had happened to me, caught it and felt like a god but then slowed down as I was petrified - I only drive the thing third party!
LOL! I had the same thing happen at about 90mph when the TVR came on cam (3rd gear, I think) on a straight dual carriageway. Must have been slightly damp because the back was all over the place. As you say, felt like a real hero when I caught it although had to return home for a change of underwear
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Originally Posted by SJJ84
You are joking I hope? How do you think people survived before all the 4-wheel drive cars were around, when it was the old Mk1&2 escorts and the capris.
Yes, but those cars didn't have 240 bhp
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Very nice motors expecially now they have revised them. Had a little play with one on a private road the other week. 25 ish upto about 90 we were absolutlely identical, I think it was a pre facelift model. I think he was a bit knarcked off that a hot hatch was as quick as he just glared when I flashed and waved. Oh well, all he had to do was go round a corner and he would have left me behind!
Totally agree ADP, when someone asks you what you drive saying a S2000 sports car has a much better response than a Seat Leon Cupra R I would imagine. Apart from the fact that half the people I speak to have never even heard of a LCR!
Definately on my possible next car list.


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