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Old 23 March 2004, 01:28 PM
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personally i think they shoild stick to saloons, coupes and sports cars!

BMW 1 Series

your thoughts???
Old 23 March 2004, 01:41 PM
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Feckin ugly bit of badge engineering. It'll sell like hotcakes, alongside the 'Porsche' Cayenne V6.
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Old 23 March 2004, 01:46 PM
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Why's it badge engineered?
Old 23 March 2004, 02:06 PM
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It's a BMW for the masses..built to a price. BMW traditionally hasn't competed with Ford and Vauxhall for family cars...this one is built expressly to compete in this market.
THe badge will appeal to many people..the driving dynamics won't matter much..though BMW will market it agressively as the only RWD/front engined car in the class.
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Old 23 March 2004, 02:20 PM
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Hmm I'm not so sure its a direct competitor to Ford & Vauxhalls small hatchbacks, I don't think BMW will be able to sell them cheap enough and they would run the risk of de-valuing the brand. It looks more like a competitor for the Audi A3, Merc A140, Alfa 147 and high-specced Golfs, IMO. I'm pretty sure it'll sell loads on the strength of the brand alone though, despite Chris Bangle's questionable styling.
Old 23 March 2004, 02:22 PM
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Old 23 March 2004, 02:30 PM
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Ok, good comment on the A3/Golf stuff...I'ma little out of touch, thought £16k was Focus money
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Old 23 March 2004, 03:39 PM
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i love bmw's, even like the '7' but dont like that, the headlights are far too big!

agree that it'll sell, wait for the m1 or m2 250hp rwd
Old 23 March 2004, 04:57 PM
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I thought the new mini was the bmw 1 series.
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Old 24 March 2004, 08:00 AM
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MJW got it right " It looks more like a competitor for the Audi A3, Merc A140, Alfa 147 and high-specced Golfs,"

The new one series is a great looking car and drives extremely well - it has a lot of room both in the front and rear, the seats fold down to provide a very large space which dwindles our poor scooby boot space, the equipment and features offered are right up there with the top models, and the development behind the car and the materials used should indicate a much higher price than it is offered for. The styling is very nice indeed, and no amount of pictures do it justice... Everything fits, (perhaps the sides could have done without the Bangle treatment though), but otherwise it looks great at any angle. There is also a lot of attention to detail gone into this car.. The diesel is also a very big surprise for those untrained...

When you get the chance, take one out for a run,- and then take the competitors cars out - you will step out of them shaking your head... I know I did.

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Old 24 March 2004, 08:03 AM
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oh, and the diesel figures look like this:

120d:
120 kW / 163 PS at 4000 min-1;
340 Nm torque at 2000 min-1;
2,0 Liter diesel engine;
0-100 in 7,9s;
Max speed 220 km/h;
fuel consumption 5,7 l/100km
Old 25 March 2004, 09:29 AM
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And I thought the Bug-Eye was fugly!

Seriously bad news for other road users... now the A3/Golf brigade can afford to upgrade to the outside lane hogging class
Old 25 March 2004, 01:15 PM
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Just looks like an ugly Alfa to me!
Old 25 March 2004, 01:21 PM
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BMW traditionally hasn't competed with Ford and Vauxhall for family cars
- hmm then why does the 3 series outsell the Mondeo then
Old 25 March 2004, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by what would scooby do
- hmm then why does the 3 series outsell the Mondeo then
You might have to be a **** to buy a 3 series, but you've got be be completely f-ing stupid to buy a Mundaino!
Old 25 March 2004, 01:52 PM
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Gotta admit its not bad looking IMHO. Was expecting worse after reading the earlier replies
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Question

Shouldn't Chris Bangle wear dark glasses....like Stevie Wonder does......

or David Blunkett doesn't?

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