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Old 14 March 2004, 07:13 PM
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Default Approx weight of a VW mk1 Golf gti?

Hi all, how much do mk1 golfs weigh? less than 800kg i think.

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Old 14 March 2004, 07:25 PM
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EVO magazine says 840KG ......about half the weight of an STi
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With fluids they're actually nearer 900kg.

Which still gives a better power/weight ration than a new one
Old 15 March 2004, 11:11 AM
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750kg
Old 15 March 2004, 02:13 PM
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im more confused now??? i hought they weighed next to nuthin but 900kg is very heave for such a small car.
Old 15 March 2004, 03:22 PM
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probably 800kg.. comparison is the mk1 106 rallye 1.3 was 850kg
Old 15 March 2004, 06:50 PM
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Mozza, its heavy if you try and lift it, but go and drive one and see how heavy it feels, I had a MK1 1600 GTI aged 18 and it was wonderful, you cant compare it to modern mega horsepower stuff but even stuff like CTR's has to work very hard against a well prepared Golf.

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i dont doubt their abilities one bit since ive been in one but i thought they weighed next to nothing or similar to a R5 turbo.
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They tended to be heavier than the french built cars of the same era, mainly because they were built from thicker (hence heavier) gauge steel.

It is a comparatively simple job to lighten them though, just taking the front wings of & removing the underseal from them & the inner wings will lose you about 30kg
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As i said before EVO mag says 840KG.... i reckon they should be right..maybe a bit more with fluids
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Its simple, remove what you dont need and give it more power, cant compare it to an R5 turbo which was a good car also but had the structural integrity of a tissue box.

I put my Golf up a 10 inch high kerb, it ripped the spoiler off but no other damage, tracking was still spot on, had an R5 1.7 GTX which was no way as robust, was pretty quick though.
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Originally Posted by mozzaITA
i thought they weighed next to nothing or similar to a R5 turbo.
An R5 GT Turbo weighs in at 830kg...
Old 16 March 2004, 06:52 PM
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Right, im getting my weights and measues all F&*£ed up. i thought R5 weighed 750kg!... im gunna stop thinking now! LOL

thanks for the replies
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According to the original 1976 autocar test, they weighed in at 906kgs
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Old 16 March 2004, 07:30 PM
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ive had a couple of Mk1 1.8 gti's and certain they were 840kg but then again.........
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Thought they were around 800 Kg or not much more. Without fluids probably.
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Think 850kg - I remember my MKII 16V was nearly a ton (980kg) and my MKIII VR6 was about 1150kg .........
Old 22 March 2004, 08:03 PM
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Anybody got a picture of a mk1? it would look nice in my magazine..... www.rapidcarsltd.co.uk

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Most manufacturers (especially the German ones) quoted weights are DRY weights, i.e: without fluids. Once you take into account 10L of coolant at 1kg/L, 6.5-7L of engine/'box oils at 0.95kg/L & say, 1/2 50L tank of fuel at 0.87kg/L it soon adds up

BTW the 840kg weight quoted in evo is actually that for an original 4 speed LHD example. 5th gear added another 2kg, RHD brake linkages & servo added another 5+kg, and most UK cars had sunroofs as std wich added another 25kg right where you don't want it!

840+10+6.65+22+2+5+25 = 910.65kg

Oh yeah, don't forget the other 200+kg of MDF & subs in the boot in an effort to make it handle more like a porch
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R5 GTT weighed 855kg

the golf IMO would weigh more
Old 23 March 2004, 04:43 PM
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Haynes manual says 840kg.
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