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Old 19 October 2003, 03:27 PM
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Saw one of these twin turbo beasts in the company car park recently on an H plate. I thought it looked pretty cool, seen alot of FTO's but this is the first GTO I seen. Anyone know much about the spec of these ?
Old 19 October 2003, 03:43 PM
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3liter mid engine twin turbo, 280 bhp, 4wd. Big heavy tank. don't handle great and are a bit sluggish for that amount of power. Would probably (maybe) keep the pace with a uk scoob on the twisties but are quicker on the straights.

Can pick one up for about 5 grand. Huge servicing costs. Loaded with ever toy you can imagine, 4 wheel steer, electric everything. Even a small switch to make the exhaust loud or quiet. Wierd driving position.

And i'm spent!
Old 19 October 2003, 03:54 PM
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Bit of a liability I have heard, they seem to like destroying the 4wd gubbins but I suppose that figures, nearly two tonees, powerful and four big tyres being driven, something has to give and when it does its about 2 grand !

One of these had a go when I was in my old Volvo 850 T5, it was marginally quicker but only slightly.

They always remind me of a big Technical Lego kit, i.e. impressive to 12 year old boys on all the normal criteria but the rest of the world would rather have a Supra or 300 ZX.
Old 19 October 2003, 06:50 PM
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They handle great!!!

The problem is you have no feeling as the car does all the work for you. This is often confused by people who have never owned one as being poor handling. It is not. It's great, you could drive around a scooby no probs.
Old 19 October 2003, 07:52 PM
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From what ive heard form an ex owner, very fast an handle good, just no feeling as mentioned.

Car does all the work Why he sold it and got a Chimera, now hes on a 911, only while he waits for his new GT3
Old 19 October 2003, 08:28 PM
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They're not mid engine either!
Old 19 October 2003, 08:30 PM
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as far as im aware they are slower both 0-60 and top end than a uk turbo.
Old 19 October 2003, 09:25 PM
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Why not ask the guys who know, over here
Old 19 October 2003, 11:29 PM
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These are not 280 bhp but 320bhp, 0-60 is around 4.8 seconds and top speed is in excess of 160mph, no standard uk turbo impreza does that.
Old 20 October 2003, 01:46 AM
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Sorry to disagree with some of you... but a standard GTO would leave a standard UK scoob for dead in terms of acceleration or top end.

Handling wise, the 3000 has more grip and is every bit as capable as the scoob.... just a lot heavier and with less driver involvement.

Reliability has never been a problem for GTO's but the running costs are steep.
Old 20 October 2003, 02:15 AM
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sounds like a nice motor aslong as u've got big pockets
Old 20 October 2003, 02:00 PM
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I had one for 6 months , 0-60 nearer 6 seconds , top end over 160 ,
not a great car , replaced it with a 300zx tt , much nicer IMO.
Felt like Nightrider in it , which is not a bad thing I guess.
Still , in 3 days I'll have my first Scooby!
Old 20 October 2003, 05:12 PM
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Gonna say, the one I had a go at couldnt pull away from my T5, no way it was a sub 5 sec to sixty car.
Old 20 October 2003, 10:59 PM
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There is a non turbo version of the 3000gt, it was probably that you were racing, or maybe the guy wasnt even trying to race you, a gto vr4 is on par with the supra twin turbo.
Old 20 October 2003, 11:25 PM
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These are not 280 bhp but 320bhp, 0-60 is around 4.8 seconds and top speed is in excess of 160mph, no standard uk turbo impreza does that.
Are you sure? I can see the top end being right but the BHP and 0-60 times look suspicious.

Thats on par with an Evo and I have destroyed many a GTO.
Old 21 October 2003, 12:28 AM
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http://www.maximum-cars.com/Cars/Car.php?carnumber=140

check it here
Old 21 October 2003, 12:47 AM
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Intresting, I doubt the 0-60 would be that quick though.

Specifications for the 1994 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4
Number Made¹: 1591
Engine Type: 3.0 Liter Twin Turbo Twin Intercooled V-6
Horsepower: 320 @ 6000 RPM
Torque: 315 @ 2500 RPM
Weight/HP Ratio: 11.9
Horsepower/Liter: 106.7
Compression: 8.0 : 1
Transmission: 6-Speed Getrag
Drivetrain: Front-engine/Full time all-wheel drive (AWD)
Valve Train: DOHC 24-valve
Curb Weight: 3803 lbs.
Tires: 245/45/ZR17
All-wheel steering: Same-phase 4 wheel steering (AWS)
Active Aerodynamics: Adjustable front air-dam and rear spoiler
MPG (City/Hwy): 18/24
Original MSRP: $41,275

Old 21 October 2003, 10:02 AM
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been in one over the weekend.

very nice spec but watch out for extremely expensive parts if something goes wrong, all those elec wizardry... warranty claims my mate in 2 months of ownership is probably enough to get 94 wrx!

power is good but due to obesity, not a nippy as scoob or the likes. should be quicker than most cars in top speed, had a run of to limiter with a e46 m3 *cough, not saying how fast, cough* showing on speedo so guess its ok for top end.
Old 21 October 2003, 10:14 AM
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I owned a Twin Turbo Import Manual , as mentioned earlier , nice cruising car , but 0-60 around 6 seconds ,poss just under.
I traded it in for a Nissan 300zx , similar spec.
IMO the Nissan a nicer faster car. The GTO is the only car in the class that is heavier than the Nissan , and it shows.
Still like to see the GTO's though. In that class you have the RX7 and Supra TT , IMo , Supra first , 300zx second , RX7 third , with Nightrider last. I've driven examples of all 4. I believe the GTO also to be the most expensive when they go wrong.
Not really comparable to EVO,Scoobies ie 4 door saloons , but all nice cars in their own way.
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Must be one of the strangest first posts I've ever seen! You do realise that this thread is getting towards 5 years old dont you
Old 08 June 2008, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by MattN
They handle great!!!

The problem is you have no feeling as the car does all the work for you. This is often confused by people who have never owned one as being poor handling. It is not. It's great, you could drive around a scooby no probs.
Tim Harvey, Richard Burns and Jeremy Clarkson would disagree when they rated bottom in a handling test.
Old 08 June 2008, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 300bhp/ton
Tim Harvey, Richard Burns and Jeremy Clarkson would disagree when they rated bottom in a handling test.
Good for them.

I've owned one and found it had fine handling for the driving I did.

I like the fact you quote me 5 years on, snappy.
Old 08 June 2008, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by marty_t3
Sorry to disagree with some of you... but a standard GTO would leave a standard UK scoob for dead in terms of acceleration or top end.

Handling wise, the 3000 has more grip and is every bit as capable as the scoob.... just a lot heavier and with less driver involvement.

Reliability has never been a problem for GTO's but the running costs are steep.
Less driver involvement than a scoob?

Is that possible? It must drive itself then lol
Old 08 June 2008, 11:32 PM
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A scoob might be able to have YOURS on acceleration,but you have bought one off the bottom of the pile..

Your GTO is comparable to a 1600 cc auto impreza in the scoob world.
Old 09 June 2008, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by MattN
Good for them.

I've owned one and found it had fine handling for the driving I did.

I like the fact you quote me 5 years on, snappy.
Sorry mate, at the time I didn't realise this was on old thread. Just that it had new posts.
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No worries.

I prefered my 300zx to the GTO anyway
Old 09 June 2008, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Insigma
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I'm giving you 10/10 for the obscure reference. Kudos, my friend, kudos.
Old 21 June 2008, 07:51 PM
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I would go for air flow meter..

Possibly lambda sensor(s) too..
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The GTO TT's will self-destruct with very little persuasion anyway... nevermind plumbing NOS into it.


Cheers,
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Sorry about your dissapointment, I still maintain that one couldnt put any meaningful distance on a Volvo T5 I had, it sounded like a turbo based on the noises coming from it and based on your descriptions the non turbo would be nowhere near, T5 was only 1420 kilos, manual 225 bhp, no 4wd to slow it down so possibly more even than you would think. A lady at works boyfriend had the turbo one and it got nicked and wrecked, some ******* spent and evening doing full bore starts, 4wd donuts and destoryed the drivetrain, apparently bits had been torn off the chassis.

My next port of call would be to have a look at the air filter, might be full of rubbish, as has been said, Lambda sensor as the mixture must be way off to cause 8 mpg even in a big car like that, a compression test might be worthwhile as well, remove the oil filler and see if its pulsing back pressure, a little is normal but if its any more than light thats piston rings, has it got an oil pressure gauge ?

Age, weight, auto, non turbo doesnt add up to sounding like a beast, though I would expect it should be better than a Diesel supermini.


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