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Old 02 May 2003, 10:18 PM
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I've been offered one cheap ,anyone had one ?
Old 03 May 2003, 07:09 AM
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I've got one....(Assuming your talking about the 2.7 V6 Bi Turbo 98-2000 rather than the 2.2 5 Cylinder Turbo based on the old A6

How cheap is cheap ?

Old 03 May 2003, 04:20 PM
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It's a V plate 42,000miles ,met black, he's not come back with a price yet ,but has promised it will be a good deal,what do you think it's worth?
Old 03 May 2003, 05:28 PM
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£13-15k would be a 'good' trade deal with FASH ?



Old 03 May 2003, 09:41 PM
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Depending on spec/condition and FASH 16-18 private 18-20 dealer.

If you can get it for less than 15K and it's straight then I'd have it.....
Old 03 May 2003, 09:51 PM
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I agree - straight is the critical word.

Glasses Guide is booking a 99V with 41k at £13-14850 so (ignoring Audi main agent mark up) if RallyCol has trade contacts £15k seems about right. Audi dealers will certainly be asking nearer £20k.

How's the 315bhp remap going by the way? I have to say that Audi/VAG engines do seem to 'absorb' remaps very well. I've just had the Skoda 4x4 (dogmobile) remapped to 225bhp and it still feels totally unstressed and within tolerances. My A4TDiQ's were the same, but the Impreza always felt to be 'near the limit' when it was remapped.
Old 04 May 2003, 07:11 AM
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The 326BHP remap is fine....getting 27mpg on a run out of it (8mpg around a track )

Old 04 May 2003, 10:28 PM
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I recently paid £20k for a 2000 V S4 Avant, with 30K miles, from an Audi dealer.

Is it a saloon or an Avant (estate)? Avants seem to be worth about £1k more.

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Old 04 May 2003, 10:34 PM
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It's a saloon
Old 04 May 2003, 10:38 PM
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Does the 'S' have the bendy wheel problem like the 'RS'?

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Old 04 May 2003, 11:37 PM
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A V plate S4 should have the 17" Avus alloys which don`t suffer from bending like the 18" RS4 wheels.
Old 04 May 2003, 11:53 PM
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Cheers matey!
Old 04 May 2003, 11:59 PM
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My brother has an S4. It's pretty dull, slow, soft quiet etc. Nice BOSE sound sys and leather though
Old 05 May 2003, 12:24 AM
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Confession time... I liked the RS4 I drove couple of times... don't stone me... I thought it a good honest piece of kit... never driven an S4 but I was told that it is less agressive and has great midrange and slightly nicer for it... don't slag me off Claud... I liked it!
Old 05 May 2003, 06:12 AM
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It's pretty dull, slow, soft quiet etc
Well your brother needs to put his foot down a bit......Even a standard S4 could not be descibed as slow (265BHP).
Old 05 May 2003, 08:50 PM
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I know what he means though - 'deceptive' would be a far better word than slow.
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If the standard S4 is slow, then a standard UK Impreza Turbo must be really slow, because I have changed from an Impreza to an S4, and the S4 is marginally quicker in most situations than the Impreza.

However, it is also more refined, and you sometimes don't realise how fast you are going. It is also heavier, and the suspension is a bit softer, giving the feeling of being less 'chuckable' than the scooby.

But it's definitely not slow!
Old 06 May 2003, 12:20 PM
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they are a bit 'old man' though

fast of course if you like that sort of thing. I had burn against one in my VR6 Corrado and there was nothing in it
Old 06 May 2003, 12:34 PM
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"S4 vs VR6 nothing in it" now you do surprise me, everyday of the week the a standard S4 would eat a standard VR6 for brekkie.

"Old Man" think the word you are looking for is sophisticated
Old 06 May 2003, 12:41 PM
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why the **** does no one on this friggin site accept the fact that my VR6 Corrado will at the very least keep up with most stuff including RS4's M3's etc.....????!!!!!

I have level pegged it against an S4 estate no problems The standard s4 is 275brake mine is 190 but lighter and more nimble
Old 06 May 2003, 12:48 PM
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Confession time... I liked the RS4 I drove couple of times... don't stone me... I thought it a good honest piece of kit... never driven an S4 but I was told that it is less agressive and has great midrange and slightly nicer for it... don't slag me off Claud... I liked it!
A friend of mine has an Abt RS4. It accelerates very well, I'd say about the same as a 350 bhp Evo, but the suspension is, well, standard, with lots of initial roll and lack of precision, as if it had low rate progressive springs. But the main thing is it DOESNT BRAKE!! No wonder with a curb weight close to 2 tons.

But I knwo what you mean, I liked it, too, but for high speed cruising, not real driving.
Old 06 May 2003, 12:53 PM
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Well your brother needs to put his foot down a bit......Even a standard S4 could not be descibed as slow (265BHP)
My brother puts his foot down all the way, but he changes gears at about 5500 rpms; the thing runs out of puff pretty early. Good midrange, as Mycroft said, but that's about it, really.

As for whether a 265 bhp car is slow, I would imagine that that depends a lot on how much it weighs, what sort of gear ratios it has etc. But of course, there are slower cars, quite a lot actually! What I am saying is that when I am used to my Evo or even the scooby and get into the S4, it really feels like I am standing, and I find myself looking in the rear view mirror far more often than usual, no joke!
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I know what he means though - 'deceptive' would be a far better word than slow.
Exactly. It doesnt FEEL fast, although I imagine the numbers are quite ok for a luxury saloon, something like E36 3.0l I would imagine.
Old 06 May 2003, 12:56 PM
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exactly why I my Corrado is competive against one despite what condom says 'eat for breakfast' I dont think so
Old 06 May 2003, 12:57 PM
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If the standard S4 is slow, then a standard UK Impreza Turbo must be really slow, because I have changed from an Impreza to an S4, and the S4 is marginally quicker in most situations than the Impreza.

However, it is also more refined, and you sometimes don't realise how fast you are going. It is also heavier, and the suspension is a bit softer, giving the feeling of being less 'chuckable' than the scooby.

But it's definitely not slow!
I agree, it's like you say, feels heavy and luxurious but the speed is there. Not very involving, but quite good.

As for a standard Impreza being slow... Slow isnt really the right word, but it isnt like you drive it and think "wow, that's a fast car"; you think it's good and has potential. Right?
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exactly why I my Corrado is competive against one despite what condom says 'eat for breakfast' I dont think so
Not sure about your Corrado, but I had a Golf VR6 when I was 20 and the gears were endlessly long. 100 mph in 3rd! Did you add a turbo to it?
Old 06 May 2003, 01:04 PM
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thing is they look so boring

Mind you I did see a banana yellow one that was 'in ya face' mind you they are worth jack **** comapared to the usual metallics

Old 06 May 2003, 01:07 PM
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Claudius the Golf VR6 is totally different to the Corrado. Less powerful and different gearing

my Corrado whips butt, the only reason I am getting rid is that I fancy a drop top

Old 06 May 2003, 01:20 PM
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My brother's S4 is actually yellow! LOL
Old 06 May 2003, 01:22 PM
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what sort of bloke drives a yellow S4? more for the girls no?

no offence to your brother by the way claudius


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