TopBanana

Any thoughts? They look like a cheap way to get a 1.9TDi mile muncher on the drive without suffering Skoda jokes

All Talk

Feel just the same, shame it's not a hatch then it would be fine.

Toonman1

The most unreliable car I've owned was an 02MY Leon Cupra. Probs with the:

Engine (2 breakdowns - both coil related)
Gearbox (needed a new one)
Brakes (unprogressive, grabbed and squealed - "They all do that Sir...")
Trim (loads of it fell off, pealed, rattled or sqeaked)
Head Lights (filled with water)
Rear Stop Light (Full of water)
Doors (three leaked soaking the carpets - phew the smell!)
Hatch (leaked)
Paint chips (all over the car)

Most are standard problems on the Leon. Sold the car after 9 months. Back to a Scooby! PHEW!

Cheers

Toonman1

Oh and that very same Leon Cupra's still for sale at the Seat branch of the Subaru franchise - 7 months and 3 weeks since I traded it... Now on offer for £2K less than they gave me for it.

Flat 4x4

OUCH - I had a look at one of these (Toledo) to go with the Impreza the other day. Maybe not then - back to Skodas with the same VW TDi engine !

mik

Pop along to seatcupra.net here

IMHO an excellent TDI milemuncher ~ VAG group without the usual costs (although if you baulk at the Skoda jokes, you'll probably wince a little at the looks you get from the VW / Audi brigade )

TopBanana

A friend of a friend owns a Leon too - he's had loads of problems with it. I guess the Toledo has more in common with the Passat / Bora than the Leon though?

Toonman1

I'm pretty sure the Toledo's a Leon with a boot. Mik will confirm I'm sure.

Cheers

mik

It is indeed Leon avec boot.

As Mike has pointed out - Leon/toledo have suffered a number of issues and had a few unhappy owners

My own car is 18months / 30K with nowt more than a faulty instrument dimmer rheostat and a knackered rear damper bush, so I can't complain.

Floyd

iTrader: (9)

Don't Skoda do a Fabia vRS now? Someone told me it was a 130bhp Diesel with 6speed!

I may just have to check it out.

F

Flat 4x4

Floyd

It comes out in October.
I drove a Fabia TDI 100PD yesterday - which is normally about 115bhp out of the box, and remaps very nicely to 140'ish.
Solid build, strong mid-range, excellent ride, good steering, brakes, handling and 50mpg.

Buy in black and you can do a DIY RS on a low mileage used one !

TopBanana

Hmm, going to think twice about a Toledo now. Shame - they really are cheap

Floyd

iTrader: (9)

I don't think they've released the price yet for the Skoda but if they're sensible they'll have a winner on their hands.

F

TopBanana

I dunno, most people would still be too embarassed to have a Skoda on the drive (rightly or wrongly)

Flat 4x4

That must make me not 'most people' then - good !

I always remember my first Subaru in 94 (Legacy Turbo) when people kept saying "how many sheep you got in the back?" or "morning farmer"

Hadn't driven a Fabia TDi until yesterday - seriously impressed - and I've owned Audis recently. Going for something quicker but by the same maker (all Audi/VW mechanicals and brilliant build) and
FOR NOW, great value...

mik

Do think twice, but don't make your mind up without a bit more research..... I've heard many complain of piston slap, clutch judder, look-at-them-and-they-dent panels, no3 piston melting etc etc, but I'd still consider a scooby (once I've sold the kids )

Still recommend the link to seatcupra.net as I posted above.

TopBanana

Yeah thanks for the link - I spent ages trawling it on Saturday. I guess you're only going to hear polarised views online

RB5#295

SEAT do it already - the Ibiza TDi Sport. Mine makes 184bhp and 306lb/ft after a Revo remap and held its own more than admirably (like it beat an Ibiza Cupra R with Revo remap) at a trackday recently.

Mine is for sale if you want one NOW (but only 'cos I want to spend the money on something else).

Fen

P1 Enthusiast

Can i get a decent Tdi from Seat or anyone else for 4k?

Flat 4x4

In a word, No.

Or to qualify that, you won't get any of the newer generation of turbo-diesels for that kind of money unless it has intergalactic mileage. Could go older for Peugeot 306 TD.

To be honest (and I have been looking around recently) I'd really recommend spending £8500-9000 on a year old Fabia TDI 100PD, NOT the SDI model !

Had a long test drive and I'd rate the engine, brakes, steering, ride, build, paint and kit list (Elegance model) as all Very Good or excellent for the type of car.

AND if you visit Jabbasport, it will safely be custom remapped to 140-145bhp, but still average a shade under 50mph in enthusiastic driving.

If we were in the market for a small diesel (things have just changed) I wouldn't look for anything else.