Might buy an FTO hmm ;)
03 March 2003, 01:57 PM
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Bloody elise was too hard to get in and out of!
I'm thinking about getting a Mivec FTO now, with a veilside kit on it, anyone had one? What are the long term issues of such a car?
Anyone selling one? ;D
I'm thinking about getting a Mivec FTO now, with a veilside kit on it, anyone had one? What are the long term issues of such a car?
Anyone selling one? ;D
03 March 2003, 02:21 PM
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03 March 2003, 03:23 PM
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Yeah - get an FTO....
I owned one for 3 years (see www.ralliartcars.co.uk for my details and photos)
Great cars, very reliable, reasonably quick (0-60 circa 7s, even for the tiptronic) and quite good on the MPG front. Excellent handling - my FTO handled better that an out-of-the-box 02 WRX that I test-drove last year anyway
The MIVEC is more noise than action - in theory it gives an extra 20bhp and higher red line. In practice the GR (without MIVEC) probably has more low-down torque and in real terms is just about as quick - and more ecconomical. The MIVEC induction roar (with a performance air-filter) is great though.....
If you want more performance, go for a manual box over tip - rather than GPX over GR. Version R is a stripped out MIVEC, and can be quicker still, but doesn't have many bells'n'whistles.
Common problems - not many really. Central locking motors can get 'lazy' (easy, but time consuming to fix), throttle-position sensor gets dirty and causes hunting at idle (quick and easy to fix), tip-boxes have been known to fail (though generally v. good), and the Mitsubishi 'warpomatic' front discs are very prone to warping (though many upgrade to Black Diamonds)
Plenty for sale out there, parts and servicing is easy through Mitsi dealers, or independants (such as EuroSpec).
For more info, take a look at Steve Hemming's excellent site at www.mitsubishi-fto.org and/or enlist on the VERY active FTO list on Smartgroups
Shades
[Edited by MrShades - 3/3/2003 3:24:31 PM]
[Edited by MrShades - 3/3/2003 3:27:00 PM]
I owned one for 3 years (see www.ralliartcars.co.uk for my details and photos)
Great cars, very reliable, reasonably quick (0-60 circa 7s, even for the tiptronic) and quite good on the MPG front. Excellent handling - my FTO handled better that an out-of-the-box 02 WRX that I test-drove last year anyway
The MIVEC is more noise than action - in theory it gives an extra 20bhp and higher red line. In practice the GR (without MIVEC) probably has more low-down torque and in real terms is just about as quick - and more ecconomical. The MIVEC induction roar (with a performance air-filter) is great though.....
If you want more performance, go for a manual box over tip - rather than GPX over GR. Version R is a stripped out MIVEC, and can be quicker still, but doesn't have many bells'n'whistles.
Common problems - not many really. Central locking motors can get 'lazy' (easy, but time consuming to fix), throttle-position sensor gets dirty and causes hunting at idle (quick and easy to fix), tip-boxes have been known to fail (though generally v. good), and the Mitsubishi 'warpomatic' front discs are very prone to warping (though many upgrade to Black Diamonds)
Plenty for sale out there, parts and servicing is easy through Mitsi dealers, or independants (such as EuroSpec).
For more info, take a look at Steve Hemming's excellent site at www.mitsubishi-fto.org and/or enlist on the VERY active FTO list on Smartgroups
Shades
[Edited by MrShades - 3/3/2003 3:24:31 PM]
[Edited by MrShades - 3/3/2003 3:27:00 PM]
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03 March 2003, 05:40 PM
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Hmmmmmmm.......
NOS is the easy way - a few have gone this route, see Wizards of NOS for more details.
The GR (non MIVEC) can also be supercharged, which one guy (Tony Banton) has done. Turbo charging should be an option - but it's easier to just drop a Galant VR4 lump straight in rather than turbo charging the FTO unit (Richard Batty is your man for this route).
Decat has some effect, especially with a decent air-filter / cold air induction mod. Air filter on its own does virtually nothing, and can be detrimental to performance as most of the time you lose the cold-air induction that the standard set up utilises.
So - failing that, go with the 'lose weight, don't increase BHP' route - and buy a version R and strip out anything (like seats) that you don't need.......
Have a browse and lurk on Smartgroups - should be a few bods on there that know what they're talking about.
Shades
NOS is the easy way - a few have gone this route, see Wizards of NOS for more details.
The GR (non MIVEC) can also be supercharged, which one guy (Tony Banton) has done. Turbo charging should be an option - but it's easier to just drop a Galant VR4 lump straight in rather than turbo charging the FTO unit (Richard Batty is your man for this route).
Decat has some effect, especially with a decent air-filter / cold air induction mod. Air filter on its own does virtually nothing, and can be detrimental to performance as most of the time you lose the cold-air induction that the standard set up utilises.
So - failing that, go with the 'lose weight, don't increase BHP' route - and buy a version R and strip out anything (like seats) that you don't need.......
Have a browse and lurk on Smartgroups - should be a few bods on there that know what they're talking about.
Shades
05 March 2003, 09:19 AM
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If you have to do all that, like swop engine etc to get it to perform decently, maybe worth looking at something else, they're not that quick, especially for a grp 20 insurance car, and arent renowned for their handling.
05 March 2003, 12:43 PM
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ando, where are you based?
my friend is selling one in north west london.
It is a metallic black gpx with tip tronic and custom cream leather with black piping.
Its in lovely condition and has recently been serviced. The car is an N reg with 18 inch wheels and I believe new SO2s.
Price will be similar to that red one (not nice in red) that you are going to see.
email me if you have any questions
adam@22b.com
my friend is selling one in north west london.
It is a metallic black gpx with tip tronic and custom cream leather with black piping.
Its in lovely condition and has recently been serviced. The car is an N reg with 18 inch wheels and I believe new SO2s.
Price will be similar to that red one (not nice in red) that you are going to see.
email me if you have any questions
adam@22b.com
05 March 2003, 01:26 PM
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Yep, can definately recommend the FTO - great car, one of the best looking jap motors on the road at the moment. Not the quickest in the world but a good turn of speed all the same. Go get one, you'll enjoy it, believe me.
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