Paul STi 5

I have just sold my Type R scoob and i have found a UK Honda S2000 in black with black leather,9300 miles (very low),99V plate,Full honda history and just had MOT and major service, last owner 3 years,its very good condition. I've got him down to £16750.What do you guys think of the price????? It seems to be cheap from what i've seen.

Thanks.

wrightylee

If there's nothing untoward with car, it looks like you've got yourself a bit of a bargain. I've just bought myself an sti8 and traded my S2000 which is black with black leather on a 99V, full MOT, just been serviced with a full Honda service history and in very good condition with 27000 miles on the clock. I was given £16000 for the part exchange so theyre bound to stick a couple of grand on it when they come to sell it.

ScoobyJawa

BUY IT NOW!

Blackbird

That does seem like a very good price. I looked at them early last year before buying the Subaru (partner decided she didn't like soft tops/sports car and the WRX was a compromise). The best I could find then was around £19k and that had a greater mileage.

Saying that I saw two S2000s stuck in the snow on the M40 last week as I sailed by

chris singleton

Sounds like a good deal to me, was looking to get one of these for my better half (no I'm not saying its a girls car as I really like these as well ). This was approx 6 months ago and at that time a similar car was about 19-20K.

Make sure you do the usual HPI checks, perhaps an AA also if the warranty is now gone.

Chris

Paul STi 5

Cheers people, keep them coming. I thought it sounded a good deal aswell.

Paul STi 5

i know what you mean, i loved my scoob and it was fecking quick. I've been looking for a replacment for a while,but nothing drives like a scoob. They are amazing cars. I spent a fortune on mine and it was the cleanest around. I want the honda for a bit of fun,a differebt type of fun. round and round we go!! i didnt like donuting the scoob.

image doctor

240bhp ppp Impreza 4WD
240bhp s2000 RWD

Once moving the S2000 is faster, simple math. I would think a scoob would need another 25 bhp to be equal.

SideShowBob

Very good deal!!
If you like the S2000 (which I do), then thats a really good price, actually scarily good for mileage etc, get an HPi just in case.

Paul STi 5

My scoob was a Version 5 type R with 317bhp and i had it timed 0-60 in 4.3, that was before i had the whole engine rebuilt to an awesome spec. My scoob would rip a S2000 apart and i'm aware of this. Its just a change of car for me, i was totally gutted when the scoob went.

image doctor

I said ONCE MOVING!!!!!

Quoting 0-60 times is hardly that.

The Zohan

Might be worth putting a post on here

http://www.hondaforums.co.uk/phpBB2/index.php

Nice cars, much prefer to the z3

andrewdelvard

Fantastic deal. Buy it now.

Magic Boot

Paul,

Having decided that i'm going for an S2000 myself, could I ask you to provide details of this car if you don't happen to buy. (not likely ).

Many Thanks.

ADP

good price, these were **** cheap on import, we did one for 20k which was a bargain so it may not owe him as much as you think, either way it seems a good price, mind that back end though!

kenny.c

the interior of the S2000 is nice, especially the dash and the plastics are of better quality(imho) but can't knock the scooby for all round practicality .

Edam

Never bothered looking at performance cars for their practicality, I know some people need to, but its too much of a compromise, like a scoob or evo will never look as good as an elise or s2000, but they are practical, id rather not make the compromise, a performance car imo should look like a performance car, its part of the experience, and something that will always be missing from rally reps, no matter how big the make the scoop and rear wing.

Wuss

image doctor,

My wife has an MX-5 1.6 which is a lot of top-down fun but with absolutely no punch. I have my PPP MY00. We were looking at the S2000 as a replacement for both with a view to getting a crappy diesel for work. I understand what you are trying to say about the performance 'while moving', but actually that is exactly what I was talking about. I am referring specifically to the feeling of 'flooring it' in my Subaru, in second or third, at 4,000 to 5,000 revs. I drove the Honda S2000 on all types of road including a clear M4 and at NO time did I feel the same punch. The car does have a lot of power, but the performance delivery characteristics are completely different to my PPP'd Subaru and in my opinion, it is nowhere near as much fun to drive. No matter how hard I tried, even in 2nd or 3rd at 7,000 rpm, it just did not make me smile as much.

It was only marginally more fun to drive than my wife's MX-5 which costs £11k less! Needless to say, we will not be trading our cars in for an S2000. I did try very hard but it couldn't deliver in the same way. Christ, even my wife agreed and she took the thing out for well over an hour!!

Paul,

On a positive note, it is a good looking car and it is a great package for the money you are talking about. It just doesn't suit me in particular - I'm bloody difficult to please...! Why did you get rid of your Scooby-Monster?

Wuss.

Dracoro

I disagree (else I'd bought a scoob and not a s2000!).
It's powerful & RWD and thus it's the driver that's an important factor. A good driver will have great fun. With the hood down the sound is even more amazing and it does accelerate well (0-60 is 5.5 or so) but delivers it in a different way to a turboed car.

I've driven a std scoob and a 260bhp wrx and the S2000 is definitely more fun, more raw, more purist driving experience - a lot of people who've been with me in mine say the S2000 is like a racing car for the road - they certainly don't say that about a scoob.

A scoob does a lot of the work for you (AWD etc.) so for most drivers the equivalent scoob will be faster but get a good driver in a S2000 and it's very fast.

Not a slate against scoobs, they're good cars (but not tried a 280bhp+ one, yet ) and in many cases faster than many RWD cars but it's a different kind of fun.

I prefer RWD, can;t beat the tail coming out & controlling it (Oh, & powerslides too! )

Paul STi 5

Right here we go,,,, i'm waiting for you all to slate me big time. I havent brought the Honda, i really wish i could, but due to loosing my job i cant spend 17K on a car.
I've brought a W reg Golf Turbo,black with cream leather(very rare), i've already booked it in for a re map,exhaust and suspension just it is a little bit useable. Its boring i know and cant really hold my old number plate (S1OWW),good on my very fast scoob,but not so good on a 200bhp golf.
If any wants the details of that S2000 then please call me and i'd be happy to give you the info. Tel 07702 256252

Thanks very much for your comments.

Paul

Wuss

If you're happy with it, then that is all that matters...!

saxovts2000

that is a good price but do get a AA and Hpi check and make sure the gearbox is ok and it's had all it's recall's. As the S2000 has had one or two but I think it's the newier models something to do with the oil injectors.......could be wrong though

Dracoro

Recalls are for

Oil bolt and uprated spark plugs (product update rather than recall, the changes make the car stronger at prologned high performance use, i.e racing or track days etc. Many/Most manufacturers never do this, they just recommend changes at cost to uprate the car, Honda's approach is admirable on this one, of only more manufacturers would do this)

Seat belt adjustment (only for MY99 models IIRC)

Rumours about wheels being replaced (pitting and corrosion). Currently replaced OK under warranty but there's rumours that the whole lot will be replaced (could be rubbish though as roumours often are).

bumcrack

My scooby did "feel" faster(UK my00 decat downpipe, filter), but it wasn't any faster in the dry(different story in the went).
I've got an Honda S2000 on order and its coming in about a month. Before I placed the order I met up with a guy who has a 00my Honda S2000 to see how the cars compared. The results shocked me, I was thinking I'll "do him" on the fast roundabout, err no!. Ok then I'll do him at the top end. err no!. The honda handles better at the top end aswell.
You don't get the "kick" with the honda, like you do in the scooby, but then again there's no turbo lag.
It feels slower due to the smoothness of the engine, but on dual carriage ways and single roads I didn't pull away at all.

There's nothing in the 0-60 or the 0-100 times,

I've raced two and I couldn't pull away or gain and I was giving some.

Wuss

I don't want to start another boring 'How good is an S2000 thread' but I test drove one of these a couple of weeks back and I found it very lacking in the fun / power department. I understand how the engine performs and I was allowed to rev right up to the 9,000 rpm redline. It just didn't have anywhere near the 'poke' or the handling of my Scooby. I don't want to p*ss any Honda S2000 owners off, this is just my opinion after driving on some B roads and a couple of junctions on the M4. I have an MY00+PPP and it was supposed to be a replacement - At 26K for a new one, I don't think so...

16K - 17K for a second-hander with that mileage, maybe, but I would miss the Scooby too much...


[Edited by Wuss - 2/6/2003 4:41:44 PM]

Wuss

Dracoro,

I agree with a lot of what you are saying. If we were going to compare a standard Subaru to an S2000 then I would agree with everything you say about the power, driveability (is that a real word?!), etc. My problem is that I am a big torque fan and the PPP specifically focuses on torque increases of 'at least' 20%:

S2000: 153 lb/ft @ 7500 rpm
MY00+PPP: 238 lb/ft @ ~4,550 rpm (Shell Optimax)

My car hasn't been on a rolling road test, but I got the figures from Tony Burns' car. I am assuming mine would be similar:

http://dyno.scoobynet.co.uk/WLuk/tony_burns.htm

This must be the difference I am feeling?!!

I had the same problem with the 180 bhp Audi TT being a bit limp - that has peak torque figures of 172 lb/ft @ 1950 rpm.

This isn't a specific attack on the S2000, I think the problem is that I am trying to compare a modified vehicle to a standard production vehicle.

Paul,

You must have even more of a problem going from your car to one in standard form. I would have thought that even EVO's and M3's must feel fairly tame in comparison!!

Wuss.

[Edited because I am thick and can't type!]

[Edited by Wuss - 2/7/2003 2:20:46 PM]