Super car suggestions for sub 15k & any car stat sites?
10 January 2003, 09:05 PM
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Be different. Merc 500E. Pumped up E class, hand built by Porsche with 330bhp, limited to 155mph. 4 doors, Merc quality and class, ultimate Q car to avoid plod and thieves if that floats the boat (it does mine). Under 10k buys a gooder. LHD only. What depreciation?
10 January 2003, 09:10 PM
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interesting suggestions so far keep em coming if u will 
Even if there is an R35 coming out thou i dont reckon a R33 GTR will be achievable for me
as chances r come 10 months time i wont be looking to spend much over 12k if that but all suggestions gr8fully received 
Any1 with any spec/performance/stats sites for most/all decent cars perchance?
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Even if there is an R35 coming out thou i dont reckon a R33 GTR will be achievable for me
as chances r come 10 months time i wont be looking to spend much over 12k if that but all suggestions gr8fully received Any1 with any spec/performance/stats sites for most/all decent cars perchance?
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10 January 2003, 09:20 PM
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Cheers m8 i have already been doing a few threads on the GTR & supra board 2 sample the water just wanting 2 have a closer poke & prod at santa pod in 2 weeks now Must say i luv the look of the interior of the supra from the pix i've seen just i shame i wood/will need as many pairs of clean pants as i will new rear tyres
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Must say i luv the look of the interior of the supra from the pix i've seen just i shame i wood/will need as many pairs of clean pants as i will new rear tyres Si
10 January 2003, 09:34 PM
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Si, it is actually a 1.3l twin turbo engine although the DVLA record it as a 2.6 due to the rotary engine being twice as efficient as a piston one.
I never got much of a chance to find out how good the car was as the engine expired within 150 miles of me collecting it so it is awaiting a rebuild. (the engines need a rebuild every 70-80k miles, which mine was just coming into).
It should be about the same as an sti4 up to 90 then the RX will just walk away from the Impreza (top end is about 165 in Type-R or RS spec).
I wont get the chance to get a direct comparison as my car is being uprated during the rebuild so will be 300+bhp when I get it back and start saving for the next stage of upgrading
I never got much of a chance to find out how good the car was as the engine expired within 150 miles of me collecting it so it is awaiting a rebuild. (the engines need a rebuild every 70-80k miles, which mine was just coming into).
It should be about the same as an sti4 up to 90 then the RX will just walk away from the Impreza (top end is about 165 in Type-R or RS spec).
I wont get the chance to get a direct comparison as my car is being uprated during the rebuild so will be 300+bhp when I get it back and start saving for the next stage of upgrading
11 January 2003, 12:54 AM
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Sorry to but in but I've seen £5k quoted for the re-build.
Plus, rotary engines have about half the torque of normal turbo motors and drink even more fuel - 15mpg for the RX7, from what I've read.
Plus, rotary engines have about half the torque of normal turbo motors and drink even more fuel - 15mpg for the RX7, from what I've read.
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11 January 2003, 03:02 PM
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Straight rebuild is 2k, I'm paying less than 4k (albeit not a whole lot) in order to have a solid base to get more from later, 5k would only be if you were building it to handle 400+bhp, or if the turbos had gone when the engine died.
The mpg is poor, however, I found it to be on a par with what I got from my Impreza.
The mpg is poor, however, I found it to be on a par with what I got from my Impreza.
11 January 2003, 03:11 PM
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rotary engines have about half the torque of normal turbo motors
It is true they don't have a whole lot of low down torque (peak is at 5,00rpm) but with the twin turbo setup it is hardly lacking for normal use, the car is a 2+2 so it is not expected to lug around 4 adults, their luggage and a caravan
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Audi quattro 20v- You'd get the best for that sort of money
Audi RS2-you should get one for the price, probably a very good left hooker.
BMW M3 E30- Again you'd be looking at one of the best.
TVR Chimaera- Not as attractive as a Griffith but more available hence cheaper.
Lotus Esprit- A 'proper' supercar but a potential minefield, buying a bad one is like holding a grenade with the pin out...
R32 Skyline- Very very tempting, this is where my money might go. getting a good one could be hard and i'd be a bit worried about running costs though.
Lotus Carlton? Might be possible, again it would be a left hooker though and they're not exactly subtle...
Porsche 911-Classic choice, although the great unwashed still think they're driven by posers and playboys. You'll get a late 70's early 80's one for your money, spares are surprisingly reasonable, insurance not too bad(get a classic policy). In fact, cancel the skyline, I'll have one of these...
Audi RS2-you should get one for the price, probably a very good left hooker.
BMW M3 E30- Again you'd be looking at one of the best.
TVR Chimaera- Not as attractive as a Griffith but more available hence cheaper.
Lotus Esprit- A 'proper' supercar but a potential minefield, buying a bad one is like holding a grenade with the pin out...
R32 Skyline- Very very tempting, this is where my money might go. getting a good one could be hard and i'd be a bit worried about running costs though.
Lotus Carlton? Might be possible, again it would be a left hooker though and they're not exactly subtle...
Porsche 911-Classic choice, although the great unwashed still think they're driven by posers and playboys. You'll get a late 70's early 80's one for your money, spares are surprisingly reasonable, insurance not too bad(get a classic policy). In fact, cancel the skyline, I'll have one of these...
12 January 2003, 12:39 PM
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One of the last Porsche 944 Turbos or S2? I have the Turbo - because for £500 it can be remapped for 300bhp.
250bhp and 258lb/ft.
0-60 5.9
0-100 13.5 secs
Top speed 162
Insurance was nearly half the cost of my Impreza, its faster, rarer, has good brakes, good suspension, has better interior and better paintwork.
Some of the parts are very cheap compared to a Impreza, such as brakes pads and disks. Servicing in about the same cost (every 6 months or 6000 miles).
A good Turbo will cost around 10k. Spend £500 on a dual port wastegate (the standard one is a bit weak), £500 on a remap, and £600 on some Pirelli Corsa's, and you will be one fast dude if ever you took in on track.
...alright the engine is in the wrong place for a porker and its water cooled, but its faster than a 3.2 911, more forgiving and it has a decent sized boot.
250bhp and 258lb/ft.
0-60 5.9
0-100 13.5 secs
Top speed 162
Insurance was nearly half the cost of my Impreza, its faster, rarer, has good brakes, good suspension, has better interior and better paintwork.
Some of the parts are very cheap compared to a Impreza, such as brakes pads and disks. Servicing in about the same cost (every 6 months or 6000 miles).
A good Turbo will cost around 10k. Spend £500 on a dual port wastegate (the standard one is a bit weak), £500 on a remap, and £600 on some Pirelli Corsa's, and you will be one fast dude if ever you took in on track.
...alright the engine is in the wrong place for a porker and its water cooled, but its faster than a 3.2 911, more forgiving and it has a decent sized boot.
12 January 2003, 01:47 PM
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OK the 0-60 is a bit lacking, but once moving it is fast, dare I say it P1 and evo fast?
Look at the 60-100 times.
One of the reasons I choose this car was I like doing track days and going to the Nurburgring, 0-60 is not important at all, its all about the in gear times.
Look at the 60-100 times.
One of the reasons I choose this car was I like doing track days and going to the Nurburgring, 0-60 is not important at all, its all about the in gear times.
12 January 2003, 02:04 PM
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Indeed all valid points & fast cars taken on board, the only problem is i'm just downloading erm i mean buying the fast & the furious so i may still get seduced (sad mode on
) by the meaty supras & skyliners still lol
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the fast & the furious so i may still get seduced (sad mode on) by the meaty supras & skyliners still lolSi
12 January 2003, 02:05 PM
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On a dry twisty road I know which I'd rather be in...
Try here for more info. http://www.artglenn.com/bmwm3/
This car goes back to the days when people buit cars SERIOUSLY for racing. Each evolution was primarily for developing parts for the competition cars, not to sell road cars. I don't think it shares a panel with a standard 3 series, even the slope of the rear window was altered(for better aerodynamics). The engine was based on the same block that the BMW Formula 1 turbo units used in the 80's, and they produced 1500BHP in qualifying... Originally when the were building the F1 engines they used high mileage road blocks as they were more stress relieved.
I am a repository for useless information....
Try here for more info. http://www.artglenn.com/bmwm3/
This car goes back to the days when people buit cars SERIOUSLY for racing. Each evolution was primarily for developing parts for the competition cars, not to sell road cars. I don't think it shares a panel with a standard 3 series, even the slope of the rear window was altered(for better aerodynamics). The engine was based on the same block that the BMW Formula 1 turbo units used in the 80's, and they produced 1500BHP in qualifying... Originally when the were building the F1 engines they used high mileage road blocks as they were more stress relieved.
I am a repository for useless information....
12 January 2003, 02:11 PM
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If you want to get seduced by a film try Ronin or Bullit. Or the Cannonball Run...
IMO The Fast and the Furious was a load of nonsense but then I hate M** P****.
IMO The Fast and the Furious was a load of nonsense but then I hate M** P****.
12 January 2003, 02:21 PM
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LOL yeah but my fav films r Terminator 2 & the matrix so i like a bit of fiction! 
lol i have herd bad & good & funny things about F&F so i'm just guna laugh/enjoy the rediculously OTT cars
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lol i have herd bad & good & funny things about F&F so i'm just guna laugh/enjoy the rediculously OTT cars Si
12 January 2003, 02:39 PM
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Now thats a different matter... A 1967 Mustang Fastback in Highland Green. Not that I'm a sad anorak or anything.
Here's one: http://www.findit.co.uk/cars/american/cars/450878.htm
Oooh suits you sir.
I'd buy it in a second if I had the money.
Shame I don't look like Steve McQueen though...
Here's one: http://www.findit.co.uk/cars/american/cars/450878.htm
Oooh suits you sir.
I'd buy it in a second if I had the money.
Shame I don't look like Steve McQueen though...
12 January 2003, 03:26 PM
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the fast & the furious so i may still get seduced (sad mode on) by the meaty supras & skyliners still
12 January 2003, 08:17 PM
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If you want cheapish running costs, a Litchfield imported new shape Integra Type-R with Road pack.
If running costs are less important, then defo an RX-7, and the torque responds really well to mods, they are very quick, stock Jap machines do 0-60 in 5.1 without mods.
Also look superb, and apart from an engine rebuild, should run reliably with proper care.
If running costs are less important, then defo an RX-7, and the torque responds really well to mods, they are very quick, stock Jap machines do 0-60 in 5.1 without mods.
Also look superb, and apart from an engine rebuild, should run reliably with proper care.
13 January 2003, 12:10 AM
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If you want to go from 0 to 60 in under 5 seconds, just get a turbo, ECU and clutch for your existing car at around £4000.
Other than that, Evo 5 RS (light, short ratio gearbox) with zorst and BC, 350 bhp. 0-60 in less than 4.5s.
There's an R32 Slyline for sale at 10k somewhere as well. 400 bhp and lighter than the other Skylines
Other than that, Evo 5 RS (light, short ratio gearbox) with zorst and BC, 350 bhp. 0-60 in less than 4.5s.
There's an R32 Slyline for sale at 10k somewhere as well. 400 bhp and lighter than the other Skylines
13 January 2003, 04:18 PM
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Dude.
You can indeed get an R33 for that money but unless you find a minter it will cost ya big time in the end. There is a really good article on the home page on www.gtr.co.uk where he bought a car for 15k but then has ended up spending another 5-6k getting the car back to order as neglected.
There are some great R32s for sale and I know of one for sale that produces 590 BHP at 1.2 bar!! and you can run it up to 1.7/1.8!! Chris Lloyd from sports imports owns it but it aint exactly a daily run around....more like a loony, weekend weapon!
with 10-12k you could get a very nice R32 that is very much std and unabused.
I guess you pays your way and that but of all the "cheap" R33s out there they are clearly NOT....trouble with the skyline is that you tend to need TWO of most things!!
Don't forget that the R33 was 50K when new in the UK so the parts are good quality and they are expensive to replace!! Scoobs, cossies and Evos are 20-30k cars so when you go out in them you really can tell the diff with the GTR.
Good luck and ping me if you need any help on a GTR....welch_nick@hotmail.com
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You can indeed get an R33 for that money but unless you find a minter it will cost ya big time in the end. There is a really good article on the home page on www.gtr.co.uk where he bought a car for 15k but then has ended up spending another 5-6k getting the car back to order as neglected.
There are some great R32s for sale and I know of one for sale that produces 590 BHP at 1.2 bar!! and you can run it up to 1.7/1.8!! Chris Lloyd from sports imports owns it but it aint exactly a daily run around....more like a loony, weekend weapon!
with 10-12k you could get a very nice R32 that is very much std and unabused.
I guess you pays your way and that but of all the "cheap" R33s out there they are clearly NOT....trouble with the skyline is that you tend to need TWO of most things!!
Don't forget that the R33 was 50K when new in the UK so the parts are good quality and they are expensive to replace!! Scoobs, cossies and Evos are 20-30k cars so when you go out in them you really can tell the diff with the GTR.
Good luck and ping me if you need any help on a GTR....welch_nick@hotmail.com
NLW
13 January 2003, 04:20 PM
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Dude.
You can indeed get an R33 for that money but unless you find a minter it will cost ya big time in the end. There is a really good article on the home page on www.gtr.co.uk where he bought a car for 15k but then has ended up spending another 5-6k getting the car back to order as neglected.
There are some great R32s for sale and I know of one for sale that produces 590 BHP at 1.2 bar!! and you can run it up to 1.7/1.8!! Chris Lloyd from sports imports owns it but it aint exactly a daily run around....more like a loony, weekend weapon!
with 10-12k you could get a very nice R32 that is very much std and unabused.
I guess you pays your way and that but of all the "cheap" R33s out there they are clearly NOT....trouble with the skyline is that you tend to need TWO of most things!!
Don't forget that the R33 was 50K when new in the UK so the parts are good quality and they are expensive to replace!! Scoobs, cossies and Evos are 20-30k cars so when you go out in them you really can tell the diff with the GTR.
and on thew weight thing...the R32 Vspec weighs 1500KGS and an R33 1540 kgs dry....wow that is such a lot right...just one of those street myths that Evo drivers try to hit you with...get a fat bloke in a R32 with a lot of fuel and it will be heavier than an unladen R33 with a bird driving....
Good luck and ping me if you need any help on a GTR....welch_nick@hotmail.com
NLW
You can indeed get an R33 for that money but unless you find a minter it will cost ya big time in the end. There is a really good article on the home page on www.gtr.co.uk where he bought a car for 15k but then has ended up spending another 5-6k getting the car back to order as neglected.
There are some great R32s for sale and I know of one for sale that produces 590 BHP at 1.2 bar!! and you can run it up to 1.7/1.8!! Chris Lloyd from sports imports owns it but it aint exactly a daily run around....more like a loony, weekend weapon!
with 10-12k you could get a very nice R32 that is very much std and unabused.
I guess you pays your way and that but of all the "cheap" R33s out there they are clearly NOT....trouble with the skyline is that you tend to need TWO of most things!!
Don't forget that the R33 was 50K when new in the UK so the parts are good quality and they are expensive to replace!! Scoobs, cossies and Evos are 20-30k cars so when you go out in them you really can tell the diff with the GTR.
and on thew weight thing...the R32 Vspec weighs 1500KGS and an R33 1540 kgs dry....wow that is such a lot right...just one of those street myths that Evo drivers try to hit you with...get a fat bloke in a R32 with a lot of fuel and it will be heavier than an unladen R33 with a bird driving....
Good luck and ping me if you need any help on a GTR....welch_nick@hotmail.com
NLW
lol