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Old 08 January 2003, 08:04 PM
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The Seat F2 in that lovely bronze colour, saying that i havnt seen any on the roads for ages
Released around 94ish?

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Old 08 January 2003, 08:44 PM
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Ah having just looked up, there were 10 built, date of manufacture was 97.
Has anyone ever seen one of these cars or owned one? (think they were 40k new or something stupid like that! )

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Old 08 January 2003, 10:32 PM
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Rover 220 Turbo was out in 93 in Gti flavour. 200bhp hatch.

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Old 08 January 2003, 10:57 PM
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The Ibiza Cupra Sport????
It was just a Golf GTI 16v engine, with around 150 bhp.
Was there ever a 200bhp hot hatch until the new Seat Leon ??
Old 08 January 2003, 11:16 PM
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Nissan Pulsar VZR-N1??
Old 08 January 2003, 11:40 PM
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This was a N/A car, used the 2ltr 16v lump from VW, was in that pheonix bronze or whatever its called and was made especially because SEAT won the rallying.
I remember seeing one at the motorshow, there are a few features around about them but they are very rare (and expensive!)

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Old 08 January 2003, 11:47 PM
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Never heard of it.

Was it based on a standard road car?
Old 09 January 2003, 08:11 AM
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Was based on Ibiza, but wide-bodied version as per F2 rally car.
Old 09 January 2003, 08:47 AM
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Calibra Turbo?

1992 - 205bhp
Old 09 January 2003, 09:06 AM
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Don't forget the Lancia Delta Integrale (205 - 215bhp)

World Rally champions for several years and more along the lines of a Scooby than a Seat ever was !

Kankunnen certainly seemed impressed with them !
Old 09 January 2003, 09:11 AM
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The MG Montego Turbo was a bit of a beast in its day too

Introduced in 1985, 150 bhp @ 5,100 rpm and 169 lb ft torque @ 3,500 rpm
Old 09 January 2003, 10:49 AM
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Let us not forget the 205 1.9 GTi, now that was sh*te off a shovel don't know the bhp but I'm sure it was pretty quick.... and going back to the dark ages, anyone remember the Datsun SS back in the 80's had a 5spd box probably the first...
Old 09 January 2003, 12:20 PM
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205 GTi was 105bhp rising to 115bhp in 1.6 form and 130bhp in 1.9 form
Old 09 January 2003, 12:33 PM
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Shoot me if I'm wrong.
Golf G60 Limited? Only in LHD but I *think* just > 200bhp
Old 09 January 2003, 12:33 PM
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it was still pretty hot.... amazing car shame they're not still making them.
Old 09 January 2003, 01:17 PM
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Vate,

BLAM !!

You've been shot !

The Golf G60 had a 1781cc supercharged 160bhp engine. It came out in 1989. 4WD and pretty quick though !!
Old 09 January 2003, 01:29 PM
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I had a 91 model sorento green 1.9.. it was great. more sideways than it was straight..

A mate of mine had a G60 Rallye. it was a nice car, but was quite heavy.. he used to get waisted on the lanes on our regular visits to Wales...LOL.... and he used to be quite good.. HPC member and all that....
Old 09 January 2003, 02:30 PM
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I heard there was a limited edition 210BHP golf, not sold in the UK though. The Rallye's we had were 160BHP.

Pulsar GTIR was launched in 90n / 91 in Japan, I think 92 in the UK? 220+ BHP 3 door hatch. Escort cossie was launched around the same time.

205T16, Delta S4 all 80s cars with >200BHP in road trim, 200 of each had to be sold to qualify for rallying, so Audi Quattro in 1980 is the ealiest 200BHP hatch I can think of

Don't remember that Seat, but at 40K I'm not surprised!
Old 09 January 2003, 02:33 PM
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Black Cat,

Sure was - hence why I had a 1.9 Would still have another - excellent fun they were
Old 09 January 2003, 02:36 PM
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Bugger - thats 2 corners I've taken and missed in as many weeks
Old 09 January 2003, 02:43 PM
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i remember seeing the seat at a motorshow at the nec, nice apart from the bonnet vent
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Old 09 January 2003, 04:09 PM
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Lotus Sunbeam and Chevette HSR???????
Old 09 January 2003, 04:31 PM
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Sunbeam Lotus was 160BHP and a monster to drive, seen some really rapid ones, and RWD, need I say more

Not sure on the ShoveIt power, think that was 160ish too in road trim?
Old 09 January 2003, 04:35 PM
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Jerry*

BLAM! BLAM!
The G60 Ltd was a LHD only end run car based on the MkII 16v.
In 1992 only 75 were built each with 210BHP
Old 09 January 2003, 05:20 PM
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Jerry -

The Golf G60 had a 1781cc supercharged 160bhp engine. It came out in 1989. 4WD and pretty quick though
The G60 was only 2wd, the rallye was 4wd which used the same engine :P
Old 09 January 2003, 05:57 PM
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Just to confirm my 'Z' status.

G60 158bhp
Rallye 158bhp & 4wd
G60 Ltd (LHD only) 210bhp
Old 09 January 2003, 06:20 PM
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Vate you missd one...

'88 - '90ish Golf Mk2 16v Turbo Technics - 180bhp at .55bar

if only the fueling and engine management had been better it would have been at .75bar and 210-220bhp... :-)
Old 09 January 2003, 06:32 PM
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1989 Mitsubishi Eclipse Turbo.

justin
Old 09 January 2003, 09:04 PM
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I thought all golf G60's were LHD only??
Old 09 January 2003, 09:53 PM
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You missed the best beast of them all:-

Lancia Delta Integrale


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