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Labour Voters - do you want to be in the EU?

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Old 12 March 2014, 07:09 PM
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Default Labour Voters - do you want to be in the EU?

Seeing that Milliband has now said he won't have a referendum if he became prime minister.

Thing is, every Labour supporter I know (and mock ) doesn't want to be part of the EU. Which has led me to belive that Ed has just shot himself in the foot, because I can see alot of disillusioned Labour voters becoming even more disillusioned.
Old 12 March 2014, 07:55 PM
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Just seen the head of Mori talking about the EU. He says there is a minority who are "obsessed" by the EU, and the majority who are pragmatic. If it makes them better of, they are for it.

Talks common sense, and why, if it ever came to be, we would vote to stay in.
Old 12 March 2014, 08:19 PM
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There will never be a straight in/out referendum from the mainstream parties, because all the leaders know the result would be to get out, and none of them want us to.
Old 12 March 2014, 09:50 PM
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Labour voters? On NSR? Hahahaha don't make me laugh. We're all Conservative or UKIP.
Old 12 March 2014, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by LSherratt
Labour voters? On NSR? Hahahaha don't make me laugh. We're all Conservative or UKIP.
There's 3 so far.
Old 12 March 2014, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Osimabu
There will never be a straight in/out referendum from the mainstream parties, because all the leaders know the result would be to get out, and none of them want us to.
Exactly this
Old 12 March 2014, 11:49 PM
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So we are still in the daft situation where voting UKIP will result in a Labour win and no referrendum
Old 12 March 2014, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by warrenm2
Exactly this

Really??

How exactly do you think Cameron is going to sell that to his party?
Old 13 March 2014, 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
So we are still in the daft situation where voting UKIP will result in a Labour win and no referrendum
So let's vote for Cameron then... er no thanks, he's a **** ... in fact he'd fit in well around here!
Old 13 March 2014, 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
So let's vote for Cameron then... er no thanks, he's a **** ... in fact he'd fit in well around here!
You need to calm down
Old 13 March 2014, 07:23 AM
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If everyone who wants a referendum (or forget the referendum, just to get out) votes for UKIP, UKIP will win, not Labour.

Norway does nicely outside the EU but still trading with it. Why shouldn't we?
Old 13 March 2014, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
So let's vote for Cameron then... er no thanks, he's a **** ...
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
You need to calm down
You need to f**k off
Old 13 March 2014, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
You need to f**k off
Is that really necessary?

I have never spoken to you like that...
Old 13 March 2014, 10:40 AM
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I think the UK should tell the EU to get stuffed or atleast just stop paying and see what they do. Suddenly losing 50m a day will soon get someones attention and make them more open to talks about a reorg. On the other hand if the UK leaves the EU I might have to get a visa and work permit to continue living and working in Germany which would be a pain in the ****.
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
So let's vote for Cameron then... er no thanks, he's a **** ... in fact he'd fit in well around here!
No doubt with the rest of us ***** I suppose.
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Originally Posted by Osimabu
If everyone who wants a referendum (or forget the referendum, just to get out) votes for UKIP, UKIP will win, not Labour. Norway does nicely outside the EU but still trading with it. Why shouldn't we?
UKIP? Those great saviours that are going rescue us from the EU?
Beware Greeks bearing gifts.

http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/ukip/a...0k-in-expenses
Old 13 March 2014, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
UKIP? Those great saviours that are going rescue us from the EU?
Beware Greeks bearing gifts.

http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/ukip/a...0k-in-expenses
Two points:

A) Hope not hate is a front for hard left Labour
B) Expenses are meaningless out of context. How much do the Tory, Labour and LibDums take in expenses, if they take more then that puts a different slant on things doesn't it?
Old 13 March 2014, 04:29 PM
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Greeks couldn't afford to bear gifts at the moment, even if they wanted to.
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Originally Posted by warrenm2
Two points: A) Hope not hate is a front for hard left Labour B) Expenses are meaningless out of context. How much do the Tory, Labour and LibDums take in expenses, if they take more then that puts a different slant on things doesn't it?
The information is available via a number of different sources. For balance.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ment-year.html

In UKIP's case it's hypocritical to on the one hand denounce an organisation, yet on the other hand to use the same organisation to fund party coffers, personal expenses and bolster personal finances. UKIP need to send a clear message regarding the EU, not only as a party mantra but also in their actions behind the scenes.

Their actions thus far serve to confirm nothing except that they are no different to any other party or politician. Greedy, sycophantic, duplicitous and sleazy. Perfect qualities for a long and successful career in politics, they should do well.
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Is that really necessary?

I have never spoken to you like that...
Patronise me and that's what you get!
Old 13 March 2014, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
The information is available via a number of different sources. For balance.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ment-year.html

In UKIP's case it's hypocritical to on the one hand denounce an organisation, yet on the other hand to use the same organisation to fund party coffers, personal expenses and bolster personal finances. UKIP need to send a clear message regarding the EU, not only as a party mantra but also in their actions behind the scenes.

Their actions thus far serve to confirm nothing except that they are no different to any other party or politician. Greedy, sycophantic, duplicitous and sleazy. Perfect qualities for a long and successful career in politics, they should do well.
Balance - Daily Fail = your 'aving a laugh!

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Originally Posted by Osimabu
There will never be a straight in/out referendum from the mainstream parties, because all the leaders know the result would be to get out, and none of them want us to.
The same old rubbish from the eurosceptics..

If 65% of the country want us out of Europe, you have a party for you. UKIP. If they all voted UKIP, we would be out the EU. Simple.

No PM has ever even started down the road to leave the EU, why, because they wouldn't want to go down in history as the party that ruined the economy.
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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
Balance - Daily Fail = your 'aving a laugh!
My original source was stated as being hard left. Therefore the DM source was proferred as an offering from the right. 👍
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I would imagine that 99% of people that would vote us out of the EU haven't got a clue about the economics of it, if questioned on the matter 99% of the 99% would not get past £50 million a day and bloody foreigners stealing our jobs, most of which are jobs the indigenous population are either not qualified to do or do not want to do.
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
I would imagine that 99% of people that would vote us out of the EU haven't got a clue about the economics of it, if questioned on the matter 99% of the 99% would not get past £50 million a day and bloody foreigners stealing our jobs, most of which are jobs the indigenous population are either not qualified to do or do not want to do.
And there in lies the reason why I'm not a fan of the idea of a EU referendum. The economic future of the Uk shouldn't be entrusted to the vast majority of the population who have no understanding of the true depth of the in/out argument.
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Originally Posted by neil-h
And there in lies the reason why I'm not a fan of the idea of a EU referendum. The economic future of the Uk shouldn't be entrusted to the vast majority of the population who have no understanding of the true depth of the in/out argument.
You dont need an understanding, people aren't stupid. When they see all the main parties, and big business in favour. Then the reality of daily life, and our growing connections with Europe. Common sense will prevail, and they will (maybe reluctantly) vote to stay in.

Lets get the damm referendun out the way, then get back to what really matters.

Working hard.
Educating and training the next generation.
Promoting business.
Growing the economy.
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It looks like Ed ***** is trying to top Millipede for the best way to lose votes. Now he's saying that the married couple's tax break will be scrapped.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...-Ed-*****.html

So, Labour's plan to get elected is to tell you they know better than everyone else and they won't make you better off than the people they are trying to beat. Sounds like a winning combination right there...
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Is there a serious business leader that says we would be better off if we left the EU?

Obviously politicians say what they think the public want to hear

What do business leaders think?
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
Is there a serious business leader that says we would be better off if we left the EU?

Obviously politicians say what they think the public want to hear

What do business leaders think?
Businesses want what gives them the most profit, which means cheap labour, which means mass immigration


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