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Old 06 March 2014, 07:22 PM
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The BBC have announced that they are to close BBC3 in Autumn 2015.

The BBC's Danny Cohen said 'We can't keep offering the same with less money'.

OK, but if they have less money how come we are still paying the same for the TV tax?

On a lighter note apparently they will no longer be able to make comedy of the quality of 'Gavin and Stacey'... good, it was ****!
Old 06 March 2014, 07:25 PM
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I heard it was either bbc3 or 4? I have never watched BBC4.
Old 06 March 2014, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebt
I heard it was either bbc3 or 4? I have never watched BBC4.
BBC3 and maybe BBC4 too!!

BBC4 has lots of excellent documentaries on, BBC3 has Gavin and ****ing Stacey and that sort of stuff. Yes it aimed a youth culture, but so is E4 and I enjioy much of their output... Misfits and Skins especially!
Old 06 March 2014, 07:31 PM
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Good.
Old 06 March 2014, 07:58 PM
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I watch bbc3 quite a lot. The reason they're doing it to bbc3 and not 4, is because they're hoping the younger generation will watch bbc3 online where as the dinosaurs that watch bbc4 won't! Bbc4 might end up binned altogether apparently.
Old 06 March 2014, 08:06 PM
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I'm struggling to understand how BBC4 could be at risk of closure, when it was only just added to the list of BBC channels now broadcast in HD.
Old 06 March 2014, 08:07 PM
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Hmm, so it becomes on-line. Great. Beeb can't handle the bandwidth as it is. Its not my internet connection - Top gear last week was a nightmare...I ended up downloading it via Bit-torrent instead (which technically is illegal, but hey I paid the license fee and iPlayer is shyte).

Why don't they axe some of the old dross like Eastbenders and stop sending the main news presenters to dodgy countries (Hew Edwards).


Saying that, I can't think of anything I watch on BBC3 apart from 2 pints and family guy


Maybe they should sell their services/subscriptions in Europe...for the past 12months you could get all the BBC channels on the main Astra 2A wide beam transponders (in english - you can get BBC one Spain with a small dish ). But no, they now moved to a new satelite which has a UK footprint like the old Astra 2N transponder, so once again ex-pats have to use a 3metre dish and those in Cyprus are screwed to using something the size of Jodrell bank. Would it be better to make these ex-pats legal subscribers instead and keep BBC on Astra 2A south (or its modern europe-wide replacement)?

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Old 06 March 2014, 08:15 PM
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I've noticed every BBC outside broadcast reporter has a Berghaus jacket if it's cold. They're f'ing expensive. They ought to get them from Regatta or Aldi instead.

And I'll bet the Aldi one would be brilliant, too.
Old 06 March 2014, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by bioforger
Good.

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Old 06 March 2014, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B

Why don't they axe some of the old dross like Eastbenders and stop sending the main news presenters to dodgy countries (Hew Edwards).
Can't say much about eastbenders, but just recently I had the misfortune to watch the competitions news output (CNN etc) whist travelling abroad

And compared to the BBC's output it is simply embarrassing - I forget/take for granted how good the news output is on the BBC, the professionalism of the reporters (Alastair Leithead, Gavin Hewitt, phill Mercer, Frank Gardner, Mark Urban, Orla Guerin, Mark Mardell, jeremy Bowen, Adam Easton) - to name a few

Is, compared to the others, simply outstanding - i could not believe how bad the competition was, barely watchable

People must have an incredibly low quality threshold
Old 06 March 2014, 08:50 PM
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The last time I watched it it didn't start till 7p.m,load of 5hite .......
Old 06 March 2014, 09:13 PM
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I didn't even know there was a BBC3 or 4 for that matter, about time they got rid of some of their sh1te radio stations as well if they are looking to cut costs.
Old 06 March 2014, 09:16 PM
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Oh well, I will just watch Family Guy on Fox. I can't think of anything else worth watching.
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I don't watch it, nor do I pay for it. Load of ****e.
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Start advertising like ITV etc and dont charge at all.
Old 06 March 2014, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SRSport
Start advertising like ITV etc and dont charge at all.
No need when the BBC have the British public to pay for it ....
Old 06 March 2014, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Willowsdad
I watch bbc3 quite a lot. The reason they're doing it to bbc3 and not 4, is because they're hoping the younger generation will watch bbc3 online where as the dinosaurs that watch bbc4 won't! Bbc4 might end up binned altogether apparently.
So seeing as the production costs and (massive) actors/producers/managers salaries are going to be the same - what is the difference in cost between wireless radio and digital interwebs to get the content to the user?

I doubt that it is SIXTY MILLION POUNDS (He confirmed BBC Three would be moved to the iPlayer in autumn 2015, with its budget slashed from £85m to £25m a year!!

mb
Old 06 March 2014, 10:39 PM
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CBBC on its own is £79million a year and that's not including cbeebies which is £29m

Madness
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Originally Posted by Ant
CBBC on its own is £79million a year and that's not including cbeebies which is £29m

Madness
How can something so **** be so expensive?
Old 06 March 2014, 10:44 PM
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According to radio one earlier, they'll still invest £30m a year on new shows. I'm assuming that it takes a lot less staff to put shows out online, and therefore reducing the bbc's outlay quite considerably. Along with other costs that are probably involved with keeping a channel on air. Do they still have a bbc news channel? Surely they could save money by shutting that down, seen as the news is still on bbc1 several times a day anyway.
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
How can something so **** be so expensive?
Isn't CBBC kids' thing? If it is, it's only the kids who should judge whether CBBC is sh$t or ace. You're too old for judging it, Dunk.
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Here's the breakdown, staggering really


Continue reading the main story
BBC TV channel budgets 2013/14

BBC One: £1,051m
BBC Two: £415m
BBC Three: £85m
BBC Four: £49m
CBBC: £79m
CBeebies: £29m
BBC News Channel: £53m
BBC Parliament: £2m
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Yes, crazy world

79 million just about buys you a decent family home in belgravia

( seriously pop onto a property website and have a gander)

Obviously not **** but quit expensive none the less

What's better value?, I know what I would rather have




The house btw

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If the BBC is over-funded, I wonder what we should call the obvious alternative, in the form of the big US commercial networks. Taking CBS as an example, that's a $13 billion annual budget for the last year figures are available, and for that you get the pleasure of sitting through hour after hour of borderline dross, interrupted every 12 minutes by 5 minutes of cretinously dull and patronising adverts.

Against that background, anyone who feels cheated about paying a measly 40p a day for their license fee really needs to get some perspective.

Just sayin'
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Originally Posted by Ant
Here's the breakdown, staggering really


Continue reading the main story
BBC TV channel budgets 2013/14

BBC One: £1,051m
BBC Two: £415m
BBC Three: £85m
BBC Four: £49m
CBBC: £79m
CBeebies: £29m
BBC News Channel: £53m
BBC Parliament: £2m
All those figures and I watch each month:

BBC1: Formula 1 when it's live, HIGNFY (if it doesn't clash with anything better), Pointless - about half an episode if I am home early and am bored (not very often).
BBC2: Top Gear - on iPlayer.
BBC3: Family Guy
BBC4: nothing.
CBBC: nothing.
Cbeebies: nothing
BBC News: nothing
BBC Parliamnent: nothing.

My missus will watch Strictly on BBC1, apart from that, we watch Dave, Fox or Discovery channels. BBC stuff is not worth those figures, IMO.

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Old 07 March 2014, 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by markjmd
If the BBC is over-funded, I wonder what we should call the obvious alternative, in the form of the big US commercial networks. Taking CBS as an example, that's a $13 billion annual budget for the last year figures are available, and for that you get the pleasure of sitting through hour after hour of borderline dross, interrupted every 12 minutes by 5 minutes of cretinously dull and patronising adverts.

Against that background, anyone who feels cheated about paying a measly 40p a day for their license fee really needs to get some perspective.

Just sayin'
40p a day? The few shows on BBC I actually watch aren't on daily. In fact, most aren't even on weekly.
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Hence why I think we should do away with paying altogether and the BBC can get their income from advertising. Every other channel does it so its not much hardship. To get some perspective, imagine having to pay £145 to every broadcasting company for the privilege of having a TV in your house, it would be ridiculous so why does the tiny minority of those channels get to dictate a proportionally extortionate amount of money?
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
Isn't CBBC kids' thing? If it is, it's only the kids who should judge whether CBBC is sh$t or ace. You're too old for judging it, Dunk.
Old yes, but considering I pay for it and kids don't I'm perfectly happy to judge it.

For me BBC has run it's course and has little left to offer apart from Top Gear which only runs two series a year and even the episodes seem to be getting less and less, how many episodes are we getting per series now seven?

Considering there is nothing else on the BBC I find even remotely interesting it makes me wonder why do I pay for a TV license.
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Agree with most above, BBC3 would be no great loss. Struggling to think of a decent show to come out of it.

Family Guy is the only thing I occasionally watch, and even that hasn't been funny since season 8. It'll no doubt get moved to another channel, BBC wouldn't buy it at expensive cost no doubt, just to put it on iPlayer.

Suppose I enjoy the live festival shows, but they'd just get moved to red button or another channel anyway.
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Originally Posted by markjmd
If the BBC is over-funded, I wonder what we should call the obvious alternative, in the form of the big US commercial networks. Taking CBS as an example, that's a $13 billion annual budget for the last year figures are available, and for that you get the pleasure of sitting through hour after hour of borderline dross, interrupted every 12 minutes by 5 minutes of cretinously dull and patronising adverts.

Against that background, anyone who feels cheated about paying a measly 40p a day for their license fee really needs to get some perspective.

Just sayin'
Yep instead of cretinously dull and patronising adverts we get cretinously dull and patronising programmes on BBC and we have no choice but to pay for it even if we don't watch it because it's a tax!*

*Unless we don't watch any TV at all of course


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