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Old 10 January 2014, 10:42 AM
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Default Long shot - importing a car into Aus

As some of you know I am intending to emigrate to Australia in 2015. I have answers to most of the issues I can foresee, but not to this one.

If I wanted to take my AMG I know how much it costs to transport and insure whilst in transit, but I can't get a definitive answer on import costs i.e. duty, sales tax and luxury car tax.

I can find the calculations, but the customs value of the car is the sticking point.

Is it valued on what its worth here or what its worth there? The regs say something about if I buy it with the sole puprose of importing it then the value is on the pruchase price, but if I have used it prior to importing it then it will need a valuation by Austrlian customs.

The trouble is cars are way more expensive there than here so if it is valued at Aus pices it won't be worth me taking it.

Anyone got any ideas? A long shot I know, but worth a try
Old 10 January 2014, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
As some of you know I am intending to emigrate to Australia in 2015. I have answers to most of the issues I can foresee, but not to this one.

If I wanted to take my AMG I know how much it costs to transport and insure whilst in transit, but I can't get a definitive answer on import costs i.e. duty, sales tax and luxury car tax.

I can find the calculations, but the customs value of the car is the sticking point.

Is it valued on what its worth here or what its worth there? The regs say something about if I buy it with the sole puprose of importing it then the value is on the pruchase price, but if I have used it prior to importing it then it will need a valuation by Austrlian customs.

The trouble is cars are way more expensive there than here so if it is valued at Aus pices it won't be worth me taking it.

Anyone got any ideas? A long shot I know, but worth a try

Yes there expensive, but its relative, your £ is worth about 1.3 more than here...

You need to do a like for like cost comparison here / there , then factor in your shipping / import charges.

Base it on best case and worst case, and go midway,

BTW if its a gas guzzler, its not cheap out there, my BIL has a 4.0 ford SUV its expensive to run prices have gone up a fair bit in the last year or so.

On the plus side, no more MOT's

Mart
Old 10 January 2014, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by mart360
Yes there expensive, but its relative, your £ is worth about 1.3 more than here...

You need to do a like for like cost comparison here / there , then factor in your shipping / import charges.

Base it on best case and worst case, and go midway,

BTW if its a gas guzzler, its not cheap out there, my BIL has a 4.0 ford SUV its expensive to run prices have gone up a fair bit in the last year or so.

On the plus side, no more MOT's

Mart
The problem is if my car is valued as it is here it's about £25K which is about $46K AUD and that means I will pay

5% import duty ($2300) + 10% GST ($5230) = $7530 AUD

Note the GST is based on the car value + shipping/insurance costs as that is how they calculate it.

If my car is valued at Aus prices it's worth about $110K AUD which means I will pay

5% import duty ($5500) + 10% GST ($11950) + Luxury car tax ($21340) = $38790

As you can see this makes a massive difference.

My guess is it will be the latter as otherwise what is to stop people importing cars there like this all the time and making a killing by selling them!

My problem is I like my car and have got it how I want it so would like to take it with me!
Old 10 January 2014, 11:30 AM
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So you can either sell it here for $46k before you leave, or sell it there for $110k after an upfront cost of $39k

Surely a no brainer if you can afford the initial outlay
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Originally Posted by Jay m A
So you can either sell it here for $46k before you leave, or sell it there for $110k after an upfront cost of $39k

Surely a no brainer if you can afford the initial outlay
Yes and your plan would be brilliant but for one fatal flaw... I want to keep the car
Old 10 January 2014, 11:36 AM
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My point being whether you keep the car or not, take it with you
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Originally Posted by Jay m A
My point being whether you keep the car or not, take it with you
Yes I guess you're right, just $39K is like paying for it twice. I know it's not the case as it has effectively increased in value by taking it there, but......
Old 10 January 2014, 12:13 PM
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Just stay in the UK then. Which I'm sure will happen anyway.
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Some useful info here...
http://www.anglopacific.co.uk/docume...g-cars-aus.pdf
Old 10 January 2014, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan

If my car is valued at Aus prices it's worth about $110K AUD which means I will pay
This just illustrates how Oz living costs are so high. People don't factor this when they go on and on about how much people get paid in Oz.
Old 10 January 2014, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Raptorman
Cheers, it's the bit about determining its value that worries me. It's not clear whether the fact I purchased it 2 years prior to export will mean it gets assessed at 'landed value' or whether they use the UK value.

Think I may have to 'buy it' again just before I export it
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
This just illustrates how Oz living costs are so high. People don't factor this when they go on and on about how much people get paid in Oz.
Nio it just shows how much the Aussies value a proper car
Old 10 January 2014, 01:29 PM
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Was that model ever sold domestically in Oz? There could be a PITA process to get it on the road.
Old 10 January 2014, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Was that model ever sold domestically in Oz? There could be a PITA process to get it on the road.
Yes was sold officially by Mercedes Benz dealers! Same as here.
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F1, you will need something local to fit in...

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Originally Posted by SJ_Skyline
F1, you will need something local to fit in...

Old 10 January 2014, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SJ_Skyline
F1, you will need something local to fit in...

No need to go all the way to Oz for the above, that will be the norm here before long. ;-)
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I'd say at a guess they will be the same as here in Croatia i.e, local value and then tax accordingly, otherwise no one would buy a car there they would all import.

I have a few mates out there and they all love it, i'm more of a New Zealand fan my self.

Scoobs are cheap out there.
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The boy lives in Adelaide and paid 30$ for his Suzuki swift sport as against
14k here
We were looking b the Subaru dealership
STi was a whopping 68$ against 27k when UK sold them
Holden's and newts are popular and 10-15 k gets some amazing cars

All jap cars are expensive
The boy said my Greenwagon worth 2k in UK is 20$ in Aussie as they are
Sought after as classics
Lots of old cars over there and no rust neither
If I could start my life again I would be over like a shot and part of my
Retirement plans now are 5/6 months over there stopping on the boys
New house ( I will have to help him out so we get one big enough with a
Seperate living area for us ) and working part time 2/3 days per week which
Would gave us some pocket money to spend
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Scoobs are cheap out there.
They're not, see Lordy's post above
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Originally Posted by lordharding
If I could start my life again I would be over like a shot and part of my
Retirement plans now are 5/6 months over there stopping on the boys
New house ( I will have to help him out so we get one big enough with a
Seperate living area for us ) and working part time 2/3 days per week which
Would gave us some pocket money to spend
Excellent plan Sir
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Just shows how cheap motoring his here
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Originally Posted by lordharding
If I could start my life again I would be over like a shot and part of my
Retirement plans now are 5/6 months over there stopping on the boys
New house ( I will have to help him out so we get one big enough with a
Seperate living area for us ) and working part time 2/3 days per week which
Would gave us some pocket money to spend
I'm sure he'll love his parents coming to live with him
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I'll feel sad when you move away, Chris. But then again, I know that you'll still be so close to me.............











.........inside my laptop.
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Originally Posted by mamoon2
I'm sure he'll love his parents coming to live with him

Just getting my revenge having to put up with tantrums and a succession of loose women in the west wing if the house and wanting collected from dodgy nightclubs at silly o clock

Revenge is sweet
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
I'll feel sad when you move away, Chris. But then again, I know that you'll still be so close to me.............











.........inside my laptop.
F1 will never move.
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Would the car be worthless without the engine? Could you ship them both seperatly?

Just an idea...
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
F1 will never move.


Stop it before it turns into this> between you and Chris.
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Originally Posted by Turbohot


Stop it before it turns into this> between you and Chris.
I'm ignoring it Swati. No doubt Ding will be along soon also to call me a bumder (or some such chilidish nonsense) and say I will never move!
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
I'm ignoring it Swati. No doubt Ding will be along soon also to call me a bumder (or some such chilidish nonsense) and say I will never move!
Take no notice, Chris. It will be good if you stay, anyway. I will miss you, my friend.


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