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25 October 2013, 08:05 PM
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There's 3D printers, and then there's 3D printers lol
The one used to make the gun is more of what we would call an SLA printer
Stereolithography, Very clever stuff
A company i work with has direct metal laser sintering stuff,
now thats really big boys toys
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The one used to make the gun is more of what we would call an SLA printer
Stereolithography, Very clever stuff
A company i work with has direct metal laser sintering stuff,
now thats really big boys toys
Mart
25 October 2013, 08:27 PM
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This is just the thin end of the wedge.
3D printing was science fiction 20 years ago, and now we're saying that you need a 'Real' 3D priter to make a gun.
Won't be too long before 'Real' 3D printers are the norm.
3D printing was science fiction 20 years ago, and now we're saying that you need a 'Real' 3D priter to make a gun.
Won't be too long before 'Real' 3D printers are the norm.
25 October 2013, 09:13 PM
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Products like the Roland Camm2 had this 20 years ago, admittedly they were taking material away, rather than simply putting blobs of resin on
Hyped up con IMO
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25 October 2013, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Manky Policemoron
Greater Manchester Police (GMP) has now said it "cannot categorically say" whether the objects are the component parts for a gun.
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26 October 2013, 07:55 AM
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You cant make ammunition, due to the chemicals required. You cant make electronic devices either. As for plastic guns, its pretty much all media hyped bull****. Sure, it is possible in theory to make something roughly resembling a working, but the barrel is unlikely to have the strength required and will quite possibly blow up on first use.
Anyone with a hint of practical knowledge and access to a few bits of metal can build something in a few minutes that will reliably fire a bullet or shotgun shell - no printing required.
As for 3d printers and their potential - it truly is astounding.
In the mid nineties I had to go to a proper computer shop staffed by nerds, where I bought a colour dot matrix printer for about £350. At the time, it was awesome, but looking back now it was rubbish - pictures were blurry, low resolution and you could see the stripes from the print head. Nowadays, I can walk into a supermarket and for about £50 buy a colour inkjet that prints pictures of such high resolution and quality that they are indistinguishable from real photographs.
3d printers will improve too, and I would guess that they will improve at a much faster rate as people are cottoning on to the possibilities. Already today, they are making an impact - I read about some countries in Africa where they are being used to print basic medical and surgical items like umbilical cord clamps.
Anyone with a hint of practical knowledge and access to a few bits of metal can build something in a few minutes that will reliably fire a bullet or shotgun shell - no printing required.
As for 3d printers and their potential - it truly is astounding.
In the mid nineties I had to go to a proper computer shop staffed by nerds, where I bought a colour dot matrix printer for about £350. At the time, it was awesome, but looking back now it was rubbish - pictures were blurry, low resolution and you could see the stripes from the print head. Nowadays, I can walk into a supermarket and for about £50 buy a colour inkjet that prints pictures of such high resolution and quality that they are indistinguishable from real photographs.
3d printers will improve too, and I would guess that they will improve at a much faster rate as people are cottoning on to the possibilities. Already today, they are making an impact - I read about some countries in Africa where they are being used to print basic medical and surgical items like umbilical cord clamps.
26 October 2013, 09:20 AM
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You cant make ammunition, due to the chemicals required. You cant make electronic devices either. As for plastic guns, its pretty much all media hyped bull****. Sure, it is possible in theory to make something roughly resembling a working, but the barrel is unlikely to have the strength required and will quite possibly blow up on first use.
Anyone with a hint of practical knowledge and access to a few bits of metal can build something in a few minutes that will reliably fire a bullet or shotgun shell - no printing required.
As for 3d printers and their potential - it truly is astounding.
In the mid nineties I had to go to a proper computer shop staffed by nerds, where I bought a colour dot matrix printer for about £350. At the time, it was awesome, but looking back now it was rubbish - pictures were blurry, low resolution and you could see the stripes from the print head. Nowadays, I can walk into a supermarket and for about £50 buy a colour inkjet that prints pictures of such high resolution and quality that they are indistinguishable from real photographs.
3d printers will improve too, and I would guess that they will improve at a much faster rate as people are cottoning on to the possibilities. Already today, they are making an impact - I read about some countries in Africa where they are being used to print basic medical and surgical items like umbilical cord clamps.
Anyone with a hint of practical knowledge and access to a few bits of metal can build something in a few minutes that will reliably fire a bullet or shotgun shell - no printing required.
As for 3d printers and their potential - it truly is astounding.
In the mid nineties I had to go to a proper computer shop staffed by nerds, where I bought a colour dot matrix printer for about £350. At the time, it was awesome, but looking back now it was rubbish - pictures were blurry, low resolution and you could see the stripes from the print head. Nowadays, I can walk into a supermarket and for about £50 buy a colour inkjet that prints pictures of such high resolution and quality that they are indistinguishable from real photographs.
3d printers will improve too, and I would guess that they will improve at a much faster rate as people are cottoning on to the possibilities. Already today, they are making an impact - I read about some countries in Africa where they are being used to print basic medical and surgical items like umbilical cord clamps.
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You really need to do your swotting up.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-22421185
They are very real, and potentially very deadly
Also check out the film, "In the line of fire" same concept, 1n 1993 pie in the sky, - 20 years later and there are working concepts!
Althogh the one used in the news clip is more a stereo lithography type printed gun, as opposed to a plastic spool type that are in the DIY realm now
Mart
We have sintered metal lasering in some of our sister companys, thats 3d printing in metal
Mainly used for rapid prototyping, but what they can do is amazing
Mart
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26 October 2013, 02:35 PM
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I think the point is that it's easy to produce the working parts of a gun, although the barrel and hammer would still and should be metal parts and anyone at home could make one if they wished. Unlike making a fully metal gun which would need more expensive machinery and more knowledge of machining, etc.
The fact you can buy a decent printer for a few grand and download a gun design for free is the problem, add a barrel and hammer and you're away.
The fact you can buy a decent printer for a few grand and download a gun design for free is the problem, add a barrel and hammer and you're away.
26 October 2013, 09:17 PM
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..and can these "printers" make bullets, 'cos they are probably a rather important part of the overall product?
This whole "3D printer" panic is more "security theatre" hysteria being promoted by the spooks (who are supported by the "scare police") to justify their post cold war jobs
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This whole "3D printer" panic is more "security theatre" hysteria being promoted by the spooks (who are supported by the "scare police") to justify their post cold war jobs
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26 October 2013, 09:25 PM
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..and can these "printers" make bullets, 'cos they are probably a rather important part of the overall product?
This whole "3D printer" panic is more "security theatre" hysteria being promoted by the spooks (who are supported by the "scare police") to justify their post cold war jobs
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This whole "3D printer" panic is more "security theatre" hysteria being promoted by the spooks (who are supported by the "scare police") to justify their post cold war jobs
mb
27 October 2013, 11:51 PM
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29 October 2013, 09:39 AM
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3D printers are not expensive at all. We are on our 3rd now and have just purchased the same machine (Makerbot Replicator 2) the guy was using to print upgrade parts for his own machine in Manchester when the daft fuzz arrested him. They are around £1600 new. Cheap!
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In the US, its even easier to obtain firearms.
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