LSherratt

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Did anyone watch this on Crimewatch last night? I thought it seemed very good and I do really hope something comes to light. Hard to say whether she's dead or still alive. Apparently 2 different callers have given the same name for a man in those e-fits.

dpb

Six years later, ??

Can't see it myself, but good luck to them.


What are the new leads anyway?

They've isolated a geezer ( who may look completely different now) who they're 90% sure has nothing to do with it

Adam@SC

OPEN LETTER TO KATE MCCANN by The Pat Brown Criminal Profiling Agency

Yes, Kate,

It isn’t your breast size or weight that is causing your problems. It is you and your narcissist evaluation of the situation and your PR team’s equally stupid assessment of the situation that is making you look so bad in the public eye.

I am a criminal profiler with years of experience dealing with parents of murder victims and missing relatives. Your behavior and the behavior of your husband fall far outside or the norm for grieving parents. Now, this may be because you are just terribly narcisstic folks who had nothing to do with your child going missing (outside of neglecting your children and putting your needs to party before their needs for comfort and safety, a narcissistic behavior if I have ever seen one). You and Gerry may simply be so narcissistic you have no understanding of how other people view your behaviors and your PR team may share your narcissism so that no one on your team has a clue to normal human behavior.

But, SHUT UP! Every time you open your mouths you do more damage to yourselves. You seem guiltier by the day. Your attempt at “damage control” is so obvious and so very much a day late and a dollar short, everything you do or say seems a cover up and a transparent attempt at proving your innocence.

Let me make clear what I think is weird about what you say and do:

You choose words about Madeleine’s disappearance which make it appear you know there is no abductor and that Madeleine is dead.

Both you and Gerry state your only guilt in the matter is not being their when Madeleine “was taken.” This statement makes no sense for abduction as Madeleine could not be taken if either of you were with Maddie when an abductor would have shown up. It makes more sense in the context that Maddie died while you were not in the apartment.

Your statements and attitude about Madeleine being alive do not square with parents who really believe their daughter is in the hands of a pedophile or pedophiles who are brutally raping and torturing her daily.

Your attempts at “finding” Madeleine do not represent the manner most parents would choose if they were actively searching for a live child but appear more to be the actions of parents trying to prove after the fact of a child’s death that they “cared” (not care) about her.

Your behaviors of “keeping a normal routine” and “keeping up one’s appearance” is admirable, but extremely bizarre. I don’t know any other parents of missing children who can appear so together and cheery. When my daughter cooked our kittens by accident in the dryer, I cancelled Christmas.

Gerry’s blog creeps people out. It is too upbeat. Terrified and distraught parents of missing children are rarely able to jog and play tennis and go to park with their other kids and have a fun time. Over a long period of time, maybe, but this is usually years after the nightmare begins. Some parents never recover from the trauma and it is common for marriages to fail and the brothers and sisters to feel their parents went absent after their sibling went missing.

Your ability to sleep at night after the first five days, Kate, is beyond belief. It is the behavior of one who already knows the answer and even then, is quite a narcissistic trait. If you believed your daughter was being raped as you lay in bed at night, sleep would be very hard to come by. I guess you finally realize this and your mother is saying that NOW you can’t sleep and Madeleine comes to visit you in the night. What changed, Kate?

Your PR team coming up with an answer to every accusation, answers that are ludicrous in themselves, makes you seem awfully defensive, and, if there is no way you or Gerry had anything to do with Maddie’s disappearance, you have nothing to defend. Furthermore, if all you care about is finding Maddie, you shouldn’t be wasting your time on such silliness. After all, as Gerry said, Maddie is the only important thing, right?

So, SHUT UP, Kate. SHUT UP, GERRY. Fire your PR team as they are totally worthless. If both of you really are innocent and your think Maddie is alive, return to Portugal. Start searching for real (and it took six months to set up a hotline?). Cooperate with the police. Take the polygraphs as you have zero to hide and, with competent polygraph examiners, the questions are so simple you can’t screw them up. I will even give you the four questions that should be asked:


“Did Madeleine die while you were present?”
“Did you return to the apartment and find Madeleine dying or dead?”
“Did you move Madeleine’s body at any time?”
“Did your spouse move Madeleine’s body at any time?"

These are simple questions. The answer to all of them should be “No.” There is no ambiguity in these questions (unlike a question such as “Do you feel responsible for the disappearance of Madeleine?” which you could if you acknowledge leaving her without an adult caretaker is irresponsible; an affirmative answer to such a question would be useless to the detectives as it could falsely indicate that you had something to do with Maddie going missing when you are only feeling guilty over leaving her unattended. Also, an affirmative answer could mean you simply do not feel responsible for what happened to Maddie no matter what happened to her as a total narcissist might).

The above four questions are simple and unambiguous and even a narcissist can’t misconstrue the meaning of the questions. The answers will be a simple “Yes” or “No.” Have the polygraph session videotaped so the police will be unable to do any underhanded scare tactics or interrogation that might distort the results of the tests.

Quite frankly, Kate, you and Gerry had everything going for you as parents of a missing child if you hadn’t left your children unattended night after night to go out partying. THIS is what made people dislike you. It was to your advantage that you are both relatively attractive people because IF you had big breasts and a porky physique and were not well-heeled professionals, you would have become suspects right off the bat and you would have not had the incredible monetary support you have been blessed with nor all those kindly letters. You would have been viewed as just a pair of slobs who probably abused their children as well as neglected them and you wouldn’t have gotten the phenomenal amount of publicity worldwide concerning Maddie’s disappearance. Other parents have gone public, run campaigns, and had web sites, but your fortune with publicity and support has been unprecedented. And, you complain, Kate, that people are treating you badly because you are fit! It was being fit and professional and well-off that got you so much attention. It was you and Gerry’s fitness as parents and your peculiar behaviors that got you the negative attention.

I have a final suggestion. Ask the PJ if I can come analyze the case. My organization will send me pro bono. As a criminal profiler I can analyze the actual evidence to advise the investigators as to the best investigate strategy. I have no problem determining this crime as an abduction and finding the creep that took Madeleine if the evidence points that way. I don’t have to like you and Gerry as people to view the evidence in an objective and professional manner. No one should be convicted of a crime simply because of personality and because people don’t like the individual’s personality. Solid physical and circumstantial evidence must exist to the point where there is no question as to who committed the crime. I would work very diligently to assist the PJ with the evidence and the facts and do a thorough crime scene analysis that would move the case forward.

Furthermore, if you and Gerry get charged in Madeleine’s disappearance and must truly defend yourselves, my services are available to you and your lawyers. I will be more than happy to analyze the evidence and, if you are innocent, do all I can to serve in your defense.

Good luck, Kate. May the truth be brought to light soon and you and Gerry get the justice you deserve in the case of your missing daughter.

All the best,

Criminal Profiler Pat Brown

davegtt

I aint buying that as a real letter. Nobody in a professional organisation would write a letter as above IMO.

Tidgy

nice troll letter that.

this whole 'new person of interest' thing, i don't buy for a second, as if anyone remembers someone from 6 years ago they have no reason to remember and secondly the whole thing isnt exactly a secret so why come forward now?

Its a sad thing to happen but they have to face the fact shes gone, they can't keep ploughing tax payers money into it when theres hundreds of other kids who go missing each year.

alcazar

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Interesting......

stilover

Her mothers best line on the news the other night. "We've done nothing wrong"

Hmmm.... so, leaving your children unattended while you go off and have dinner with your friends, leaving your children vulnerable to kidnap, is not your fault?

Should be imprisoned for neglect.

tony de wonderful

Yeah they made a big mistake leaving her alone but I'm sure they aren't the first parent to do that.

ALi-B

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Agreed. The person who wrote that letter need help for their own "odd" mental behaviour!



Anyhoo back on topic, can't help feeling the whole crimwatch episode and follow up reports both last night and today are massively contrived.

Maybe they already know a suspect and watching to see if these "we have new information" news reports (as reported on BBC R2 just now) as a effort to force a suspect to act out of character.

Someone clever enough to hide a child or their muder for six years isn't going to be that stupid.

David Lock

If I understood it correctly the cops have only just found out that there was a crèche or similar near McCann's apartment and that earlier pic of someone carrying child was probably a dad taking his kid home. If I have this right it seems staggering that this has only just been discovered??

Also reports of men hanging around the area but no call on programme for them to come forward for identification??

Could someone tell that "profiler", Adam, to f,uck off big time.

dl

Cpt Jack Sparrow

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where was the mention they Gave the kids Calpol so they slept better and the blood found in the boot of their hire car??

I really dont know what to believe or think of this case.

jonc

I think you can pretty much discount any findings of the Portuguese Police and what was printed by their media since they pretty much discounted everything else to try and pin the blame on the parents.

paulr

And do you think they don't regret that every day of their life. It must be awful, you can see the pain in Kate's face. So sad.

The Trooper 1815

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But if they had been from, shall we say, a different class of society/wrong side of the street would they now be finishing a sentence for "abandoning/neglecting a child" by being absent on the pi£s?

It sit's very uncomfortable with me when they say that Maddie complained about the night before so they thought it would be OK to do it again?

David_Dickson

Six years on?
Stirring up public interest again?

I smell an imminent book/film release.
$£€ KERCHINGGG £$€

jonc

Careful with that, otherwise TDW will somehow find a tenuous link and turn this in to another BTL thread.

tubbytommy

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lol

zip106

E-fit has a resemblance of Gerry....

Turbohot

I'm with you on this.

davegtt

Boom, exactly, if this was a council estate couple they would have been locked up already for a month under close scrutiny. Im not pinning blame for the death or disappearance but it was very unresponsible from what should be parent of the highest respect when you look at things such as their careers. They'd be the first to demand it if their pension wasnt up to scratch

Felix.

There was lots that was missed off the Crimewatch program, but they are not going to divulge the complete investigation. They did not mention the blood found in the hotel room, the hire car, the 'blood' dog and the 'corpse' dog. There's a good chance that that the reconstruction only showed things the police want to divulge to discount or prove other lines of the enquiry.

From memory i think the Portuguese police discounted sightings because thy knew of the creche

I still think the McCanns had something to do with it - i hope i'm wrong and Maddy is found; but its strange that Kate went 'no reply' to all questions put to her......

tarmac terror

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If I was arrested / under caution / questioned about an offence in a foreign country where I was unfamiliar with the system 'no reply' would be precisely the answer I would provide to every question.

Martin2005

I think it's pretty unlikely that they went to Portugal to murder one of their children.

But hell this is the internet, so you can post up whatever poisonous ****e you like.

Shame on you

Lisawrx

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Where did he say that?????

It is perfectly possible that there was some sort of accident that they then attempted to cover up, hence the opinion they had something to do with it. Only Felix can comment as to whether that is what he was getting at or not, though.

Personally, I haven't got a clue and I'm not going to point fingers. Yes they don't come across as complete wrecks that I'd imagine people to be if their child was abducted, but then, everybody is different and some people are far more capable of controlling their emotions, at least publicly.

One thing I do agree with, mentioned in this thread, is that if they were from a different 'class', they would most likely have been treated very differently.

pimmo2000

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So why keep pushing it like this ? surely they would keep a low profile, not sue people, not engage papers and reporters ..

I hope she's safe, but unless someone took her because they had mental issues and just wanted to have a child to care, I don't think her chances are good. Soon as they noticed her eye, that would have been it.

I hope I'm wrong, my little girl is nearly three and it burns me inside to think about it.

scotty boy 80

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Theres only one victim in this and thats wee Maddie the parents are guilty as f**ck maybe not guilty of her murder but guilty on every other level and personaly I don't see them as victims, arrogant stuck up c**nts yes.

Dont forget they left 3 kids alone that night not just Maddie and how many times did they do it before........ and as a parent can you imagine your kids waking up in a strange country in the middle of the night with no one there.

There guilty and deserve to suffer problem is they never seemed to be to bothered about it

JDM_Stig

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Not likely to happen when you sedate your children like they did.

pimmo2000

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Think they've suffered enough mate .. unless they did in fact kill her.

Dingdongler

Which sedative did they give?

pimmo2000

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one that lasted 7 years?