Geezer

a judge has ruled that a Muslim woman must remove her veil to give evidecne at her trial, and she is crying human rights and religious freedom.

Surely it's just a case of treating everyone fairly, not persecuting Muslims?

I'm sure I wouldn't be able to wear a motorbike helmet in court, why should a veil be any different?

Geezer

c_maguire

It shouldn't.
Seeing someone's face when they are talking is imperative if the sincerity of what they are saying is in question.
I doubt you could wear your helmet in their courts either.

ReallyReallyGoodMeat

In a courtroom situation I imagine it's pretty fundamental to the effectiveness of the jury if they can see the face/body language of people giving evidence.

Do we know what's she's on trial for?

richs2891

If that's her in the picture on the BBC website, what does she honestly expect - it could be anybody under there !

Possibly going to get slated for this but its our country, our rules, if don't like it then bye bye.
And I'm all for veils been banned in schools as well.

Richard

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iTrader: (41)

She's fit !

Blue by You

iTrader: (23)

So if a veiled woman walks into a bank would she receive the same treatment as a man wearing a balaclava?
I have to say I find the wearing of veils a bit creepy.

tony de wonderful

Interesting how these women trumpet the viel in the name of freedom yet one reason for the covering up is to protest against western decadence and you guessed it...freedom.

ReallyReallyGoodMeat

Shirley there are better ways to protest at Western Decadence than to hide your face, like not watching X-Factor, and not going into a McDonald's.

dpb

Why is it these veiled women have amazing eyes quite regularly.

She'll no doubt win her appeal, or get multiple damages awarded by the European Union. Cos we can only roll over and say sorry in good old blighty.

Can you imagine this happening across the channel

RA Dunk

And we refer to them as cheese eating surrender monkeys, oh how the times have changed, it's them who have the ***** now and us who are the 'yes' men.

mamoon2

I wonder what would happen if i walked around in a ski mask?

urban

iTrader: (1)

So do I.
Could be anything under there, a very ugly woman, or a male who recently got the chop and threw his todger to the dog.

tubbytommy

iTrader: (20)

Some of the women where i live should be forced to wear a veil

shooter007

Ban all veils we use facial expressions in daily interactions with people ,These people want us all to be back in the stone age

Shaid

Do you English folk ever stop moaning?

A bunch of offended blokes bitching about women... oh the irony.

Here's another one to make you buggers winge...

http://www.independent.co.uk/student...y-8814502.html

And here's another nobody setting out to make a name for himself

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...ic-places.html

Now get me wrong all you like. I would never allow my wife to wear a veil. Well, if she did i could't do bugger all about it other than shadow her everywhere so when some chav decided to assault her for it i can bum him hard and slow. Anyway the point i'm getting at is that where as i'm not keen on the veil itself i would like to tell all those that are against that there is bugger all they can do about it so stop wingeing and leave the bloody women alone.

I suppose someones going to come out with the whole nationalistic bollox. Well screw you too pal, you can jump up and down with a pissed up group of chavs shouting 'ban the burka' whilst you wear a cotton version over your face whilst claiming to be defending Ingerland. You still won't change bugger all either so fark off.



Oh and i've often wondered. To you ****** who can't have a conversation without facial expressions how the doodaa do you ever manage to use the phone?

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

It's poltical correctness gone mad.... just thoght I'd throw that into the mix with the other cliched moaning we've all heard a 100 times before going on in this thread

Shaid

You'd look like a ****.

tubbytommy

iTrader: (20)

Lol didnt think it would take long for you extremists to turn up.

Maz

iTrader: (34)

I think you'll find there's an Irishman and a Scot amongst the contributors. Personally I think when in Rome and all that but hey that's just me.

Blue by You

iTrader: (23)

Not quite what I meant, but it'll do

Shaid

We are the nice guys, the more 'westernised' extremists. We hate the Burka as much as white folk but it's our Burka to hate and we won't let anyone do anymore hating than us

Blue by You

iTrader: (23)

Well at least that's a rational extremist view

tubbytommy

iTrader: (20)

I think the issue is not really the veil more the fact to woman refuses to abide by the laws of the country she chooses to live in.

Shaid

Ummm, the veil is not illegal in this country.

Plus all this 'chooses which country to live in'.

Well, perhaps this is HER country of origin.

Also to add...... and another reason why i think **** of many people.

We all break the rules. Hands up if you have ever done speeding.... well **** off to Afghanistan if you can't obey the laws (speed limit) of this country.

tubbytommy

iTrader: (20)

I know that bit she is in court and the judge has asked her to remove it.

I dont get you extremists. I live in the uk too and im not english but i choose to live here.

if i didnt want to live by the rules and customs of the country i choose to live in surely the answer is to fck off back home as its obviously oh so great there.

dpb

The issue is that she is in court! Nothing more

Shaid

But what if this is our ****ing home? Then what?

What customs don't we live by? I mean do you want me to go and get smashed every weekend? Start a fight with a randomn stranger? Maybe abuse someone?

Seriously, WTF are you guys on about?

I've been in this country since birth and i have never managed to get into any trouble with the law. So what ****ing rules are these that i fail to abide by?

Seriously, do you even know what you are talking about? You don't do ya bud. You are just regurgitating the same old **** the rest of your clan come out with.

Maz

iTrader: (34)

The law of the land and the integrity of the court had to be upheld. Some woman on a feministic jaunt over the wearing of a veil shouldn't compromise this.

Shaid

To give evidence......

I mean if the judge and all of his mates get to wear silly wiggs then what's wrong with a lady wearing a veil.

It must be something to do with facial expressions again

Shaid

Ah, feminists...... in that case STONE the bitch!!!!!!