tubbytommy

iTrader: (20)

Im not english shaid as ive told you before but like it or not the uk is a christian country.

You have your extremist views.
i dont have any religion to speak of.


now back on topic.make her remove it like they would if a christian insisted on covering there face in court.

Shaid

I don't actually have extremist view thank you very much. I understand that simple minds don't like being challenged but labelling someone an extremist cause of it is a bit of a poor show. Sorry bud.

I think you'll find Britain is more of an atheist (and thank God for it) country than a christian country.

So the fact is you don't actually know what you're on about as she hasn't actually broken any laws in this country has she? Granted she has made a stance/challenge but then again if many people/organisations do at some point. There was a time when someone made a point/challenge for all new applianced to be fitted with a 3 pin plug as standard and not to expect the householder with his new kettle to wire up a plug himself.

Maz

iTrader: (34)

Nah man! I like the bit where they burn their bras.

dpb

Those wigs don't cover the face though

Shaid

So you are okay with the hijab then?

The one that covers the sides and mainly head but leaves the face identifiable. A bit like Nuns.

dpb

I would have said that was fine

Geezer

Absolutely. The point of my OP is that this is not a question of the UK discriminating against Muslims, it's about people conforming to the law (although this clearly isn't law yet, I admit) or complying with the request of the judge in court (which this is).

What I object to is this ridiculous defence that we are somehow inpinging on her right to religious expression. I'm afraid that laws take precedence over that, and if the judge has requested it, she should comply or be in contempt of court. What if my religion said I should be able to stand in open court and urinate everywhere?

I frimly believe that is how all people should be treated, whatever their religion, beliefs, reasons for doing so etc.

Perhaps you would like to explain why you think she should be allowed to refuse on the basis that I advocate the same treatment for everyone?

Geezer

RA Dunk

Einsteins pretty much hit the nail bang in here TBH.

Leslie

What a fuss!

Les

Turbohot

Well said.

Shaid

I'm perfectly fine with that explanation. I have no reason to disagree otherwise.

neil-h

Well now there's an interesting lil snippet from the European convention on human rights.

tubbytommy

iTrader: (20)

i hope she hasnt got a rucksack.....

mrmadcap

Big Ron got a warning for that joke

tubbytommy

iTrader: (20)

it wasnt a joke, i hope she doesnt because the judge will tell her to take it off and it will waste another ten minutes on the news


i have a rucksack that i put my lunch in to take to work but would take it to court if i was there.

The Trooper 1815

iTrader: (31)

But her faith does not say she as to wear it. Get the Jeremy Vine Podcast from today. A very informed non-radical muslim cleric explained it was all bollocks.

Moz_Rb5

iTrader: (2)

Always thought it was illegal to cover 3/4 of your face in Britain? If not I'll be going shopping tomorrow in a "IRA" balaclava.

JTaylor

Hello, Maz.

What do you mean by "feministic jaunt"?

zip106

I dunno....for some reason I think it looks quite shexy.

Let the old imagination run wild.... she could be wearing a lacy peephole bra and crotchless knickers under all that cloth, and cherry red lips under her veil....

And what beautiful 'come and **** me, bigboy' eyes.

Maz

iTrader: (34)

Evening James. As far as I know there is no religious compulsion to wear the veil. It is purely a discretionary matter. Therefore this lady's motivation is possibly an assertion of her feministic prerogative. My comment merely conveys the dismissive nature in which I view her actions.

mrmadcap

There could be some truth in that, Anne Summers in the Trafford Centre in Manc is choc-a block full of these people, I'll bet that dirty man Shaid has a filthy time in the bedroom. Absolutely shocking

Shaid

Beats burping the slug anyday.

Moz_Rb5

iTrader: (2)

Could be taken as back scuttling some **** in a burka

Shaid

Yeah, you being the **** in question

Moz_Rb5

iTrader: (2)

I've heard that rumour going around about those middle eastern f*ckers, boys for pleasure, women for babies....... thanks for confirming

tarmac terror

iTrader: (2)

Perfectly serious question - I saw some women (were probably teenage girls actually) dressed in this type of veil at Manchester airport, it got me thinking if they remain covered like this if they are driving?

markjmd

iTrader: (11)

Along with eradicating this sort of nonsense, I live for the day when genital mutilation of infants in the name of religion is seen by the criminal justice system for the disgraceful physical abuse which it is.

This isn't the Middle Ages, let alone the pre-Roman era, which these types of absurd customs all have their roots in.

dpb

In the name of religion.??

madscoob

iTrader: (3)

back on topic the whole point here is this, the judge imho just wanted to make sure the person giving evidence is actually who she says she is, with that on how can he possible do that, so therefor her evidence should be unadmissable in court, if she was giving evidence against me in court i would want proof of who she is otherwise she could be a police plant for starters, thats how a good criminal lawyer would discredit her evidence, and would probably get the case thrown out

David Lock

When these ladies ride a bike do they wear the Burka under or over the helmet?

dl