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Old 28 August 2013, 07:27 PM
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Need to take on some new staff and have not got a clue where to start, everyone that works for me has come by word of mouth or actually knocked on my door asking for a job, I recently took on a school leaver for a couple of days a week and he has no common sense and although hes done ok in his exams its as if his heads empty. Our place of business is based in an area with almost zero jobs available but everyone is on benefits and don't want to consider taking a minimum wage job.

I know that i need to avoid the job centre but where do people look for jobs online? : jobsite/ monster? I don't have a clue as I have never had to find a job or hire people for a job. I will consider anyone
Old 28 August 2013, 07:37 PM
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Recruitment agency maybe?
Old 28 August 2013, 07:52 PM
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Tried the local rag? At least you know the applicants will have made the effort rather than being forced by an agency or job center to claim their benefits. Certainly be my first call
Old 28 August 2013, 07:56 PM
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I use Gumtree and get a great response. First two Job adverts a year are free then it's about £16.00.
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Where are you based and what is it doing?
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Where are you based and what is it doing?
Gay porno's.........big marvin is awaiting your call
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If its manual work, seriously consider foreign labour. I have never seen anyone graft as hard as Eastern Europeans.
Old 28 August 2013, 08:45 PM
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As above, if hard manual labour defiantly consider an Eastern European....

Just the bank holiday Monday gone I had approx. 7,000 chickens that were due to go off to slaughter. The gangs of "catchers" are all either Latvian or Polish. You will never guess how long it took them to catch and load up 7,000 chickens......

Lorry turns up at 10pm, gang of 8 Latvian catchers arrive as planned at midnight, by 2:40am all birds have been crated and loaded onto the arctic and gone. They don't just work, they literally run with the birds back and forth to get the job done and dusted. I've said this before on a similar thread that's cropped up in the past, you will never get an English team doing a job quicker and as effective as them.

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Old 28 August 2013, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Scooby Soon!
Need to take on some new staff and have not got a clue where to start, everyone that works for me has come by word of mouth or actually knocked on my door asking for a job, I recently took on a school leaver for a couple of days a week and he has no common sense and although hes done ok in his exams its as if his heads empty. Our place of business is based in an area with almost zero jobs available but everyone is on benefits and don't want to consider taking a minimum wage job.

I know that i need to avoid the job centre but where do people look for jobs online? : jobsite/ monster? I don't have a clue as I have never had to find a job or hire people for a job. I will consider anyone
I'd say 90% of people looking for a general job use indeed.
Old 28 August 2013, 09:21 PM
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We have 100 poles work at pine of our distribution centres
Hard work is all they know
Language can be a problem untill they know what they are doing
But graft is no problem

I have a friend who owns a sawmill and 4 share a caravan and work 60 hours per week and save the money up to take home to Poland to support their family's and build lavish houses
Very polite and obedient and show respect too
Old 28 August 2013, 09:52 PM
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Maybe you could advertise in your local region on here

https://www.scoobynet.com/regional-404/
Old 28 August 2013, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by LSherratt
As above, if hard manual labour defiantly consider an Eastern European....

Just the bank holiday Monday gone I had approx. 7,000 chickens that were due to go off to slaughter. The gangs of "catchers" are all either Latvian or Polish. You will never guess how long it took them to catch and load up 7,000 chickens......

Lorry turns up at 10pm, gang of 8 Latvian catchers arrive as planned at midnight, by 2:40am all birds have been crated and loaded onto the arctic and gone. They don't just work, they literally run with the birds back and forth to get the job done and dusted. I've said this before on a similar thread that's cropped up in the past, you will never get an English team doing a job quicker and as effective as them.

Were the chicken's shipped of to Faccenda by any chance ?
Old 28 August 2013, 11:39 PM
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What sort of job is it, and where?

It might be easier to give advice knowing the above.

Advertising on the main jobsites makes sense as anyone seriously searching will look on those.

Depending on your location, can you not advertise in any places around you? Does your area have a 'free paper' that gets delivered that you could post the advert in?

Again it depends upon your location, but have you got an advert for your available roles displayed outside your business? That is how we post up any vacancies we have.
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There is a job site called inneed, I'll double check when I'm at work. The site looks shocking compared to Monster etc. but it's free to post jobs and they come up on google searches.

Whenever I need more staff now I post a job on there. Get a much better response than the local paper or job centre.

With regards to the lack of common sense, it seems to be a common trait in many youngsters for manual labour jobs. My advice is be brutal, set a short trial period, 3 months or so and if they fail to grasp what you need to do, terminate the trial and look again.
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Originally Posted by merlin24
Were the chicken's shipped of to Faccenda by any chance ?
No, these are old ex free range egg layers and go for processed meat. Nuggets and curries etc.
Old 29 August 2013, 08:24 AM
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The website I was talking about is called www.indeed.com sorry not inneed...

Thats what happens when you type before your first cup of tea!

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Old 29 August 2013, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by LSherratt
As above, if hard manual labour defiantly consider an Eastern European....

Just the bank holiday Monday gone I had approx. 7,000 chickens that were due to go off to slaughter. The gangs of "catchers" are all either Latvian or Polish. You will never guess how long it took them to catch and load up 7,000 chickens......

Lorry turns up at 10pm, gang of 8 Latvian catchers arrive as planned at midnight, by 2:40am all birds have been crated and loaded onto the arctic and gone. They don't just work, they literally run with the birds back and forth to get the job done and dusted. I've said this before on a similar thread that's cropped up in the past, you will never get an English team doing a job quicker and as effective as them.
Hopefully you paid them by the hour
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OP .. Gumtree worked for me. Also the local new style YTS thing. Here its called "Rathbone" had a couple of young idiots but also had a couple of good lads that i've kept on.
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Originally Posted by lordharding
We have 100 poles work at pine of our distribution centres
Hard work is all they know
Language can be a problem untill they know what they are doing
But graft is no problem

I have a friend who owns a sawmill and 4 share a caravan and work 60 hours per week and save the money up to take home to Poland to support their family's and build lavish houses
Very polite and obedient and show respect too
A friend of mines has a bus company & employed poles a few years back, they stayed in a portakabin turned bedsit & sent money back home. Only thing was he couldnt depend on them on a saturday as they got paid on a friday & they hit the vodka hard.
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Originally Posted by LSherratt
As above, if hard manual labour defiantly consider an Eastern European....

Just the bank holiday Monday gone I had approx. 7,000 chickens that were due to go off to slaughter. The gangs of "catchers" are all either Latvian or Polish. You will never guess how long it took them to catch and load up 7,000 chickens......

Lorry turns up at 10pm, gang of 8 Latvian catchers arrive as planned at midnight, by 2:40am all birds have been crated and loaded onto the arctic and gone. They don't just work, they literally run with the birds back and forth to get the job done and dusted. I've said this before on a similar thread that's cropped up in the past, you will never get an English team doing a job quicker and as effective as them.
Pointed out the same in a thread not that long ago, but SN's version of the EDL turned it into a racist b1tchfest!

The truth hurts I guess!
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As said it depends on the type of work, I went to a recruitment fair for graduates. We picked 11 we liked and they did presentations on a subject of their choice. Picked 5 of them to come work for us.
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thanks for the suggestion of indeed, I listed an advertisement yesterday and have 10 applications emailed by 5pm today although I am amazed at the poor spelling in some peoples CV's , I myself can not spell but I know how to use a spell checker in word and gmail! Does everyone write a CV in the format:

- I would really like a job....

- I play football and swim every week

- I went to school.......etc

please get some imagination and determination, don't think I can face sifting through 100's of these.
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To be frank I think most people would graft if they were paid four times the wage they were used to, and then after two or three years could afford to buy a house with cash.
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Originally Posted by Scooby Soon!

please get some imagination and determination, don't think I can face sifting through 100's of these.
If the job on offer was a higher paid one/more of a career than a job, then I would expect people would go the extra mile with a CV. As it is a minimum wage job, I'd imagine most of the ones you'll get, will be the standard type you've had so far.

That said, I agree that people should make an effort with their spelling, regardless of what job they're applying for.
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Originally Posted by Scooby Soon!
thanks for the suggestion of indeed, I listed an advertisement yesterday and have 10 applications emailed by 5pm today although I am amazed at the poor spelling in some peoples CV's , I myself can not spell but I know how to use a spell checker in word and gmail! Does everyone write a CV in the format:

- I would really like a job....

- I play football and swim every week

- I went to school.......etc

please get some imagination and determination, don't think I can face sifting through 100's of these.
We throw out the ones with bad spelling and/or grammar. As above, for minimum wage you may find someone who can't spell is perfect for the job.
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Originally Posted by Lisawrx
If the job on offer was a higher paid one/more of a career than a job, then I would expect people would go the extra mile with a CV. As it is a minimum wage job, I'd imagine most of the ones you'll get, will be the standard type you've had so far.

That said, I agree that people should make an effort with their spelling, regardless of what job they're applying for.
the text of one CV is 6 lines long and has 20 spelling mistakes!

I can only imagine that the people you see on TV that have sent out 500 CV's and can not find any job are sending ones just like the ones I have received.

I have a lad working for me at the moment that does not have one qualification, he never went to school but I have found what he is good at and hes quite good at what he now does for me, but he came knocking on my door begging for a job twice in a week so I gave him a chance and hes been with me for over a year.

I really hope this country has not made a army of school leavers who think that they are all going to have a 'Career' I've already met one hopeful whos planning to be an accountant even though he has only just passed his GCSE's
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Originally Posted by Scooby Soon!
I've already met one hopeful whos planning to be an accountant even though he has only just passed his GCSE's
What's wrong with that then?
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Originally Posted by Scooby Soon!
the text of one CV is 6 lines long and has 20 spelling mistakes!

I can only imagine that the people you see on TV that have sent out 500 CV's and can not find any job are sending ones just like the ones I have received.

I have a lad working for me at the moment that does not have one qualification, he never went to school but I have found what he is good at and hes quite good at what he now does for me, but he came knocking on my door begging for a job twice in a week so I gave him a chance and hes been with me for over a year.

I really hope this country has not made a army of school leavers who think that they are all going to have a 'Career' I've already met one hopeful whos planning to be an accountant even though he has only just passed his GCSE's
The irony of your initial comment is awesome!

Your grammar and punctuation in your last two paragraphs is quite bad.

Sorry.... I couldn't resist.
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Originally Posted by Shaun
The irony of your initial comment is awesome!

Your grammar and punctuation in your last two paragraphs is quite bad.

Sorry.... I couldn't resist.
It would be ironic if I had not already posted:

Originally Posted by Scooby Soon!
I myself can not spell
and the fact that I as a non speller am amazed at how bad they (the CV's) look should clarify just how bad things have got.


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