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09 August 2013, 12:41 PM
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09 August 2013, 12:54 PM
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The Government pays them a billion with the promise that they'll get billions more in return from their nation bank ..............damn they've fallen victim to the Nigerian scam too! 
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09 August 2013, 01:04 PM
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People don't want to actually be informed, to be presented with credible, reliable, quantitative data showing the pros and cons of a topical issue. Instead they want ignorant, ill-informed propaganda that panders to whatever prejudices people in their particular demographic group tend to have. That's what sells papers, so that's how issues get reported.
Ignorance is bliss, or at least, profitable if you're a news outlet.
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Do you know for sure that aid cannot done effectively? I'm sure that is just an opinion, used to justify doing nothing
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Yes because we have been sending money to Africa for the whole of my lifetime and the place is still a dump with the poorest people on the planet. So if it is being done effectively why are we still pumping millions into the place and why is it still the poorest place on the planet?
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Yes because we have been sending money to Africa for the whole of my lifetime and the place is still a dump with the poorest people on the planet. So if it is being done effectively why are we still pumping millions into the place and why is it still the poorest place on the planet?
We've been spending billions of pounds on unemployment benefit all my life (like WAY MORE than we ever have on aid), and yet we still have unemployment, clearly all that benefit is ineffective - well using your rather daft argument it is
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Same with Africa, they are so used to getting money from charities and aid donations there is no point putting themselves out. Plus the majority of africans live in dust bowls with no water so they are never going to resolve the issues of growing food.
And yes I have been, twice infact for a month at a time to work on ecology projects in said dust bowls.
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As posted to the SN's Tory buffoon yesterday:
The argument for foreign aid is that it stimulates economic growth in countries less developed than our own such that:
a) their people have a better standard of living
b) they will trade with us.
This is of course, at least part way, nonsense as:
a) the money rarely reaches those who need it due to corrupt governments and regimes (not that our own is much better)
b) there is no real hard evidence pointing to this connection
c) a lot of our aid goes to countries either as well developed as our own, better off than us or who see fit to have huge military arsenals while their people starve
and finally
d) some become dependent on the aid rather than using it to make themlseves more self sufficient!
Other than that it's a top idea
The argument for foreign aid is that it stimulates economic growth in countries less developed than our own such that:
a) their people have a better standard of living
b) they will trade with us.
This is of course, at least part way, nonsense as:
a) the money rarely reaches those who need it due to corrupt governments and regimes (not that our own is much better)
b) there is no real hard evidence pointing to this connection
c) a lot of our aid goes to countries either as well developed as our own, better off than us or who see fit to have huge military arsenals while their people starve
and finally
d) some become dependent on the aid rather than using it to make themlseves more self sufficient!
Other than that it's a top idea
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That is the most sensible thing you have ever said on here. Benefit is inefective at eradicating the unemployment problem as it pays people to sit on their ***** and wait for the next handout. What is the point working when you can get the same as or even more in benefits as you can slogging your guts out 40 hours a week.
Same with Africa, they are so used to getting money from charities and aid donations there is no point putting themselves out. Plus the majority of africans live in dust bowls with no water so they are never going to resolve the issues of growing food.
And yes I have been, twice infact for a month at a time to work on ecology projects in said dust bowls.
Same with Africa, they are so used to getting money from charities and aid donations there is no point putting themselves out. Plus the majority of africans live in dust bowls with no water so they are never going to resolve the issues of growing food.
And yes I have been, twice infact for a month at a time to work on ecology projects in said dust bowls.
Your argument seems to mean that those starving should be allowed to starve, that way they'll learn not to be come so dependent upon food!!
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As posted to the SN's Tory buffoon yesterday:
The argument for foreign aid is that it stimulates economic growth in countries less developed than our own such that:
a) their people have a better standard of living
b) they will trade with us.
This is of course, at least part way, nonsense as:
a) the money rarely reaches those who need it due to corrupt governments and regimes (not that our own is much better)
b) there is no real hard evidence pointing to this connection
c) a lot of our aid goes to countries either as well developed as our own, better off than us or who see fit to have huge military arsenals while their people starve
and finally
d) some become dependent on the aid rather than using it to make themlseves more self sufficient!
Other than that it's a top idea
The argument for foreign aid is that it stimulates economic growth in countries less developed than our own such that:
a) their people have a better standard of living
b) they will trade with us.
This is of course, at least part way, nonsense as:
a) the money rarely reaches those who need it due to corrupt governments and regimes (not that our own is much better)
b) there is no real hard evidence pointing to this connection
c) a lot of our aid goes to countries either as well developed as our own, better off than us or who see fit to have huge military arsenals while their people starve
and finally
d) some become dependent on the aid rather than using it to make themlseves more self sufficient!
Other than that it's a top idea
But given that we all live on the same planet and are all part of the same species, I find it impossible to understand why people are so dead set against helping people who obviously need help.
09 August 2013, 04:59 PM
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It's a fact of life that some people are just morally bankrupt. Typically it's the usual Daily Fail readers who feels that all of it just goes on military arsenals and space programmes and that we have our own problems to deal with. To some extent they are right and that's all that matters and the good it does do, no matter how small, is just bollox and inconsequential.
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If you are starving then maybe you should do something about it instead of waiting for hand outs that may or may not come.
You are obviously far more up on the benefit the billions of pounds we have sent to Africa have achieved so maybe you would be good enough to enlighten us as to why Africa is still a ****hole with starving people?
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We haven't even got our own Space program FFS, why should we have to support some other countries? fair enough give them food or something but helping pay for ******* spaceships is bonkers..
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If we were rolling in cash I would totally agree with you, but WE ARE £1.2 TRILLION IN DEBT!!!!
There is no money to help them with so Clown Cameron borrows some more to give away
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As posted to the SN's Tory buffoon yesterday:
The argument for foreign aid is that it stimulates economic growth in countries less developed than our own such that:
a) their people have a better standard of living
b) they will trade with us.
This is of course, at least part way, nonsense as:
a) the money rarely reaches those who need it due to corrupt governments and regimes (not that our own is much better)
b) there is no real hard evidence pointing to this connection
c) a lot of our aid goes to countries either as well developed as our own, better off than us or who see fit to have huge military arsenals while their people starve
and finally
d) some become dependent on the aid rather than using it to make themlseves more self sufficient!
Other than that it's a top idea
The argument for foreign aid is that it stimulates economic growth in countries less developed than our own such that:
a) their people have a better standard of living
b) they will trade with us.
This is of course, at least part way, nonsense as:
a) the money rarely reaches those who need it due to corrupt governments and regimes (not that our own is much better)
b) there is no real hard evidence pointing to this connection
c) a lot of our aid goes to countries either as well developed as our own, better off than us or who see fit to have huge military arsenals while their people starve
and finally
d) some become dependent on the aid rather than using it to make themlseves more self sufficient!
Other than that it's a top idea
Nigeria suffers from what economists call the ‘resource curse’ — the paradox that developing countries with an abundance of natural reserves tend to enjoy worse economic growth than countries without minerals and fuels.
The huge flow of oil wealth means the government does not rely on taxpayers for its income, so does not have to answer to the people — a situation that fosters rampant corruption and economic sclerosis because there is no investment in infrastructure as the country’s leaders cream off its wealth.
The huge flow of oil wealth means the government does not rely on taxpayers for its income, so does not have to answer to the people — a situation that fosters rampant corruption and economic sclerosis because there is no investment in infrastructure as the country’s leaders cream off its wealth.
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Don't forget Pakistan as well, we contribute heavily to them and they have their own space program. I'm not saying this is where our money goes but at the end of the day if they can afford their own space program surely they don't need our money, after all we can't even afford our own space program can we?
F1 Fan has a point, we actually borrow money to give it away!!
Seriously this is just mind boggling to the point its insane!
F1 Fan has a point, we actually borrow money to give it away!!
Seriously this is just mind boggling to the point its insane!
09 August 2013, 11:08 PM
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a begger gets £500pound a week begging on the streets doing fa
why would he want to get a job and better himself. then along comes david cameron and ask (us the public) to lend him £10 to give to the begger, thats about the sum of whats going on in the world of foreign aid