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25 July 2013, 07:19 PM
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One report said he was doing twice the speed limit and to be honest the video footage did look like it was going a bit quick. It wasn't nice to watch the moment that so any people died. 
25 July 2013, 08:07 PM
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Driver stupidity?
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...r-200kmh-speed
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...r-200kmh-speed
If he turns out to be responsible for derailment, he should be nailed for it. Horrific for the relatives of the dead and the ones who will live as disabled for ever because of his bloody madness for speed.
26 July 2013, 12:00 PM
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This ^ makes one think that internet policing can be helpful for preventing such things from happening. Had his workplace known about his sh!te speed boasting talks on Facebook, they could have terminated his services. A little too late learning about it after so many innocent passengers have died. All they were doing was travel from A to get to B, FFS. Terrible tragedy.
If he turns out to be responsible for derailment, he should be nailed for it. Horrific for the relatives of the dead and the ones who will live as disabled for ever because of his bloody madness for speed.
If he turns out to be responsible for derailment, he should be nailed for it. Horrific for the relatives of the dead and the ones who will live as disabled for ever because of his bloody madness for speed.
I have to question the wisdom of a public transport system where a driver is able to elect to negotiate a corner at twice the postulated limit (if that is indeed what happened). I'm completely ignorant about railway infrastructure and safety systems but the first thing I thought when I saw that accident footage was "No effing way is he going that fast around that bend"
Whatever the cause, it's very sad! RIP to the victims and condolences to those left behind!
26 July 2013, 12:07 PM
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Well according to a railway expert on R4 yesterday it should have been nigh on impossible for him to override the automated speed control put in place to prevent these things happening...
The expert said he couldn't get his head around how it could possibly have happened with the modern safety controls, as the whole train/track combo is VERY new & modern - i.e less than 10yrs old.
Which begs the question of whether they were routinely 'disabling' the safety systems which will open a whole can of whoop-*** on RENFE the spanish train operator
So tragic for the victims of what appears to be a blatant disregard for safety systems.
The expert said he couldn't get his head around how it could possibly have happened with the modern safety controls, as the whole train/track combo is VERY new & modern - i.e less than 10yrs old.
Which begs the question of whether they were routinely 'disabling' the safety systems which will open a whole can of whoop-*** on RENFE the spanish train operator
So tragic for the victims of what appears to be a blatant disregard for safety systems.
26 July 2013, 02:03 PM
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Quoted from Telegraph article.
Spain’s Train Drivers’ Union reported that the accident “could have been avoided” had the track been fitted with the ERTMS system, which automatically applies the brakes if the train is going to fast, as it has across Spain’s other hi-speed rail links.
Instead the older ASFA system was installed, a system described as “perfectly adequate” by state-owned firm ADIF, which operates the tracks.
Bit more detail on Reuters
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...96O1GK20130725
Spain’s Train Drivers’ Union reported that the accident “could have been avoided” had the track been fitted with the ERTMS system, which automatically applies the brakes if the train is going to fast, as it has across Spain’s other hi-speed rail links.
Instead the older ASFA system was installed, a system described as “perfectly adequate” by state-owned firm ADIF, which operates the tracks.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...96O1GK20130725
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27 July 2013, 04:25 PM
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Apparently he called up the controlling authority just before the accident telling them that he was approaching the curve at 190 KPH! No one seems to know whether it was a panic call in emergency or what!
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29 July 2013, 12:54 PM
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Tabloid journalism at its worst.
Originally Posted by express
Last night it emerged the 52-year-old had previously boasted on Facebook of driving trains at high speed.
Originally Posted by express
He posted a picture on his account in March last year showing a speedometer on a train under his control reaching 200kmh (125mph).
Originally Posted by express
During a Facebook conversation underneath the picture he even boasts about breaking the speed limit and triggering a fine for Spain’s train operator RENFE.
He may well be guilty of causing the accident but the clues are not here.
As for Facebook boasts leading to dismissal, no thanks. "I ****ed our secretary on the photocopier yesterday lunchtime" is never going to stand up at an industrial tribunal without some other corroborating evidence.
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