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Old 23 July 2013, 03:06 PM
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So what does the clean-cut Scoobynet massive think of this proposal to make ISPs filter out most of the internet?

Regardless of the moralistic argument, I think it's technically impossible to do what he wants, unless you block access to every website bar the BBC News.

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Old 23 July 2013, 03:15 PM
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It will never happen. Too difficult to implement and even harder to police.

Be exactly like when Virgin Media blocked The Pirate Bay. It has moved address and is now working again. (Not that I would ever carry out any file sharing of course)
Old 23 July 2013, 03:18 PM
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Too broad a brush - yes I don't want my young kids looking at ****.... but myself on the other hand don't mind a quick dabble when the need arises

But its either ON or OFF - greeaaaaat...
Old 23 July 2013, 03:18 PM
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I see it as laying the groundworks towards a censored Internet, where you'll only be able to receive government approved content.
Old 23 July 2013, 03:20 PM
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A third option should be

'No, it's ill thought out, technically impossible and dangerous to send a message effectively telling parents that with one click the Internet is safe for their kids."

That is before we ask the question what is the real reason he is doing this?

He's a moron!
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Originally Posted by Dr Hu
Too broad a brush - yes I don't want my young kids looking at ****.... but myself on the other hand don't mind a quick dabble when the need arises

But its either ON or OFF - greeaaaaat...
Plenty of Internet nanny program's available to prevent access. Parenting is a parents job, not the responsibility of the government or ISPs.
Old 23 July 2013, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Coc-ker
Parenting is a parents job, not the responsibility of the government or ISPs.

True. Sadly though, from what I can see, most people seem to be failing as parents.
As you say, you can block access.... So if all parents did this... no more problems.

Its stupid, I blame the parents. They will blame the schools. Who will blame the Government. etc.
People need to take responsibility for their own actions.

EDIT to add - Anyone know where the tick box for opt in is? ;-)

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Old 23 July 2013, 03:33 PM
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Ridiculous, unworkable and pandering to the lowest common denominator
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Who wants to watch **** anyway?get yourself a girlfriend and do the real thing,theres to much lovely females out there to watch ****,unless your all a bunch of five finger jockeysSJ.
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As my dad use to say you watch a horror to get scared you watch a **** to take a ****.SJ.
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Plus it is to easy for **** to come up doing normal internet searches and get irrelevant search results based on ****.My daughter was using my IPad and was searching about horse riding for a school project and you would not believe what search results came up,the Internet is to much based around **** now and it does need sorting out.not Chinese style,but sorting out.SJ.
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Originally Posted by stonejedi
you would not believe what search results came up
You're right, I wouldn't:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ho...ox-a&gws_rd=cr

Seems all above board to me. Paranoid parent? You could always set up your internet so it blocks out those things. In fact, Google has a safe search function built in. Maybe try turning this on?

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I used to use a vodafone 3G dongle only maybe 3 years ago and by default it blocked anything 'dodgy' even urban dictionary.

I had to transfer 1p with a credit card to prove I was over 18.
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
I used to use a vodafone 3G dongle only maybe 3 years ago and by default it blocked anything 'dodgy' even urban dictionary.

I had to transfer 1p with a credit card to prove I was over 18.
You still have to do this to view "over 18" sites on O2 3G. I imagine its the case for all 3G? Not sure.
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Originally Posted by Jazzy Jefferson
You're right, I wouldn't:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ho...ox-a&gws_rd=cr

Seems all above board to me. Paranoid parent? You could always set up your internet so it blocks out those things. In fact, Google has a safe search function built in. Maybe try turning this on?
So what your trying to say is your a ****** ill leave it there thenand agree to disagree.SJ.
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Originally Posted by stonejedi
Who wants to watch **** anyway?get yourself a girlfriend and do the real thing,theres to much lovely females out there to watch ****,unless your all a bunch of five finger jockeysSJ.
Real thing.

You have not seen my wife!
Old 23 July 2013, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Jazzy Jefferson
You still have to do this to view "over 18" sites on O2 3G. I imagine its the case for all 3G? Not sure.
I'm with Orange now. It gives full **** access.
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Originally Posted by stonejedi
So what your trying to say is your a ****** ill leave it there thenand agree to disagree.SJ.
You make a point, I prove it wrong, or at very least, questioned it. So you insult me.

Ok mate Well done What a wonderful place this is.

It's you're by the way.

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There will be 100's of ways to circumvent this, most kids are more IT literate than their parents anyway.
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
I'm with Orange now. It gives full **** access.
hehe, fair play. Contract expires in October... Might have to change provider
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jj When you have children of your own you won't be as cavalier as your making out,the Internet has turned sex based it is why pedo's can do and get away with what they do Scott free and groom young children saying there twelve years old when can we meet up,when they know there in their 50's going grey,and post there dirty minded pictures to there pedo mates via the Internet,it needs sorting out.SJ.
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Originally Posted by Turbo Tone
Real thing.

You have not seen my wife!
that really made me laugh Tone.SJ.
Old 23 July 2013, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by stonejedi
Who wants to watch **** anyway?get yourself a girlfriend and do the real thing,theres to much lovely females out there to watch ****,unless your all a bunch of five finger jockeysSJ.
My missus won't do the stuff that I like watching on the Internet

Anyway as mentioned it's a ridiculous idea, if you don't want your kids accessing certain stuff on the Internet then don't let them. Plenty of software about that can do this for you.

As for the opt in lark, well that could be tricky.... the missus would expect it to be blocked but as I do like peruse certain sites after she's gone to bed I'd want it unblocked. If it were unblocked then she'd know why Be okay if it's easy enough to block or unblock.

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Originally Posted by stonejedi
jj When you have children of your own you won't be as cavalier as your making out,the Internet has turned sex based it is why pedo's can do and get away with what they do Scott free and groom young children saying there twelve years old when can we meet up,when they know there in their 50's going grey,and post there dirty minded pictures to there pedo mates via the Internet,it needs sorting out.SJ.
Of course mate. Because peados (Its got an 'a' in it) didn't exist until the internet. What a misguided view you have.

I mean, you could be a responsible parent and stop your child from accessing this horrible internet that you mention (horse **** on your Ipad you said?)... but of course you wont, its not your fault

Slight tangent... How do you know I don't have children?

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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
Ridiculous, unworkable and pandering to the lowest common denominator
Corrected for you...

Ridiculous, unworkable and pandering to The Daily Mail
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Originally Posted by stonejedi
jj When you have children of your own you won't be as cavalier as your making out,the Internet has turned sex based it is why pedo's can do and get away with what they do Scott free and groom young children saying there twelve years old when can we meet up,when they know there in their 50's going grey,and post there dirty minded pictures to there pedo mates via the Internet,it needs sorting out.SJ.
Yep you're right, that's why there were no paedophiles before the Internet was invented It's this sort of hard of thinking that Cameron is playing up to. Well done.
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I think it's brilliant. Now when I visit friends and their children take my iPad and open Chrome, it's not my fault Youporn loads.
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Originally Posted by Jazzy Jefferson
You make a point, I prove it wrong, or at very least, questioned it. So you insult me.

Ok mate Well done What a wonderful place this is.

It's you're by the way.
Sorry mate if you thought I was insulting you I was not,i just think that **** is to easy to access via the net when your not searching for it,the horse riding search my daughter done could of been on a different search engine but when I checked it was all about horse riding and it had options to click on **** sites with horse names,which Is well out of order.SJ.
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Yep you're right, that's why there were no paedophiles before the Internet was invented It's this sort of hard of thinking that Cameron is playing up to. Well done.
In my day they used to lure you in with sweets or asking if you wanted to see their puppies Any old school paedos still about?
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Originally Posted by stonejedi
Sorry mate if you thought I was insulting you I was not,i just think that **** is to easy to access via the net when your not searching for it,the horse riding search my daughter done could of been on a different search engine but when I checked it was all about horse riding and it had options to click on **** sites with horse names,which Is well out of order.SJ.
Please explain how calling me a ****** isn't insulting me directly?

**** IS easy to access. No one was saying it wasn't. However, YOU, as a PARENT can make it more difficult to access and the internet far safer for your child. I assume you have not done this, which is why such links were displayed. I assume this is why I do NOT see all this **** that you mention, as I have my computer and internet set up accordingly.

We'll ignore all your "Peados on the internet" nonsense.

Stop complaining, and do something about it.



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