Being reported to the police
13 July 2013, 03:20 PM
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Being reported to the police
As above after I stopped to discuss a young lads driving standards on the way to my local ttetescos. I was very civil, didnt swear or get shouty. Called me all sorts. Was walking away once I realized it was going nowhere, he rolled down his window and called me fookin dikhed. Knocked on his window and asked him to pop out and tell me that to my face. Obviously he chose not to. Anyhow, did the shopping and came bsck to find a note on my car saying hes reported me to the local constabulary. Being a law abiding citizen it's never happened to me before, what happens next?
13 July 2013, 03:45 PM
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Chances are his driving standards are already known about by the police, so it's unlikely they'd take his side if he had in fact reported it, which I doubt. And from what I've read, there doesn't appear to have been any sort of offence committed by you in any case.
13 July 2013, 04:16 PM
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How will he prove it? If there's any CCTV at the shop, that will perhaps show what happened, but I still doubt it will come to anything. He was being an idiot and didn't like being told not to by a grown up.
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13 July 2013, 04:18 PM
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Incidentally, why not ring the local police and report being threatened by him, if you have his number. That way if he is bluffing, he'll get a visit from them and doubtless s*it himself.
13 July 2013, 04:39 PM
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Sounds to me like you were being a public spirited citizen and had a chat to him about his driving in the interest of public safety.
At which point he became abusive and threatening so you defused the situation and walked away at which point he hurled further abuse at you, which you did not quite get the gist of and asked if he would like to get out of his car and repeat it so you could hear exactly what he was saying, an offer which he declined, so you continued about your business, and upon returning to your vehicle discovered he left you a note.
I'd check the car for damage if I were you, maybe he scratched it.
At which point he became abusive and threatening so you defused the situation and walked away at which point he hurled further abuse at you, which you did not quite get the gist of and asked if he would like to get out of his car and repeat it so you could hear exactly what he was saying, an offer which he declined, so you continued about your business, and upon returning to your vehicle discovered he left you a note.
I'd check the car for damage if I were you, maybe he scratched it.
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13 July 2013, 07:14 PM
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oh you are going down surely...I mean they don't prosecute thieves so they will need an easy target and your it.
joking aside if they have reported you they probably wouldn't come out as no one has been hurt and no offence caused really, on private property so unless the supermarket want to push it it'll probably just get filed.
joking aside if they have reported you they probably wouldn't come out as no one has been hurt and no offence caused really, on private property so unless the supermarket want to push it it'll probably just get filed.
15 July 2013, 10:57 AM
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depends what he has reported, he will have had to 'flower it up' a degree to give the police any cause for concern - otherwise its just a disagreement between two adults with no offences.
I would do as the others have suggested, phone it in and report it. Mention that you believe the other party has potentially contacted the police first and you are reporting it so it is logged and that you don't want to take any action against the other person. The police will record the incident on the system and your back will be covered - simples
I would do as the others have suggested, phone it in and report it. Mention that you believe the other party has potentially contacted the police first and you are reporting it so it is logged and that you don't want to take any action against the other person. The police will record the incident on the system and your back will be covered - simples
15 July 2013, 01:01 PM
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depends what he has reported, he will have had to 'flower it up' a degree to give the police any cause for concern - otherwise its just a disagreement between two adults with no offences.
I would do as the others have suggested, phone it in and report it. Mention that you believe the other party has potentially contacted the police first and you are reporting it so it is logged and that you don't want to take any action against the other person. The police will record the incident on the system and your back will be covered - simples
I would do as the others have suggested, phone it in and report it. Mention that you believe the other party has potentially contacted the police first and you are reporting it so it is logged and that you don't want to take any action against the other person. The police will record the incident on the system and your back will be covered - simples
15 July 2013, 01:59 PM
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Exact happened to me other month. With a cyclist. Was shouting in at me all hard when I pulled over and jumped out he **** himself and said we take this to the station I work there. To which I replied I couldn't give a f#*k where you work what do you want a medal??!! That saved him from a hiding tbh. Later that night the noddy van was round the house. Started on about all these public order offences but said its his word against yours so just calm it down. Ha I laughed at them when they come to the house that didn't go down well neither did it when I said yes you can come in if you take your shoes off haha. No time for the police at all!!!!
15 July 2013, 02:11 PM
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I doubt the police will even give it a second look. If they did ask why you are supposed to have punched his window, ask them them if he has shown them a dent in the glass!
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15 July 2013, 02:25 PM
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Exact happened to me other month. With a cyclist. Was shouting in at me all hard when I pulled over and jumped out he **** himself and said we take this to the station I work there. To which I replied I couldn't give a f#*k where you work what do you want a medal??!! That saved him from a hiding tbh. Later that night the noddy van was round the house. Started on about all these public order offences but said its his word against yours so just calm it down. Ha I laughed at them when they come to the house that didn't go down well neither did it when I said yes you can come in if you take your shoes off haha. No time for the police at all!!!!
So you cut him off, near killing him, he shouted and you slammed on, jumped out and threatened him ?
15 July 2013, 03:28 PM
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I'm guessing they just talked to you on your doorstep then
15 July 2013, 04:56 PM
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For example,
Plod, "Hello sir, we're hear to talk to you about a road traffic incident today"
You, "Oh yes, I've been sort of expecting this."
Plod, "We've got two witnesses (lie) that said that you punched a gentleman's window"
You, "Nah, it was nothing like that, I just knocked on it and..."
Congratulations, you've just convicted yourself as you have admitted the following:
1. You were at the scene
2. You were the other party involved
3. To some degree you struck the other persons window
4. You felt it was severe enough that you expected police involvement
Save all explanation for Court - not that it will ever get there if you shut your mouth and say nothing to the police.
15 July 2013, 05:34 PM
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Explaining yourself to the police would be a major error. The police are concerned with gathering evidence that can support a potential conviction. Never say anything other than your name, dob and address.
For example,
Plod, "Hello sir, we're hear to talk to you about a road traffic incident today"
You, "Oh yes, I've been sort of expecting this."
Plod, "We've got two witnesses (lie) that said that you punched a gentleman's window"
You, "Nah, it was nothing like that, I just knocked on it and..."
Congratulations, you've just convicted yourself as you have admitted the following:
1. You were at the scene
2. You were the other party involved
3. To some degree you struck the other persons window
4. You felt it was severe enough that you expected police involvement
Save all explanation for Court - not that it will ever get there if you shut your mouth and say nothing to the police.
For example,
Plod, "Hello sir, we're hear to talk to you about a road traffic incident today"
You, "Oh yes, I've been sort of expecting this."
Plod, "We've got two witnesses (lie) that said that you punched a gentleman's window"
You, "Nah, it was nothing like that, I just knocked on it and..."
Congratulations, you've just convicted yourself as you have admitted the following:
1. You were at the scene
2. You were the other party involved
3. To some degree you struck the other persons window
4. You felt it was severe enough that you expected police involvement
Save all explanation for Court - not that it will ever get there if you shut your mouth and say nothing to the police.
15 July 2013, 05:55 PM
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Was doing 5 mph over a speed bump nowhere near him. Just annoyed me he was giving it the biggin through the window and his bottom dropped when I got out the car. I had many a dealing with police on a professional level when I worked the door of a night club in town. Don't have any respect for them after that.
15 July 2013, 05:58 PM
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I find it funny that they can come to your house thinking there gona intimidate you and when they realise it does far from that they don't no what to do or say. Like I say had many professional dealings with them when I was on the door and when ever there was trouble they didn't no what to do stood there lost. I have zero respect for the polie in anyway shape or form.
16 July 2013, 10:24 AM
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I find it funny that they can come to your house thinking there gona intimidate you and when they realise it does far from that they don't no what to do or say. Like I say had many professional dealings with them when I was on the door and when ever there was trouble they didn't no what to do stood there lost. I have zero respect for the polie in anyway shape or form.
16 July 2013, 10:35 AM
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Explaining yourself to the police would be a major error. The police are concerned with gathering evidence that can support a potential conviction. Never say anything other than your name, dob and address.
For example,
Plod, "Hello sir, we're hear to talk to you about a road traffic incident today"
You, "Oh yes, I've been sort of expecting this."
Plod, "We've got two witnesses (lie) that said that you punched a gentleman's window"
You, "Nah, it was nothing like that, I just knocked on it and..."
Congratulations, you've just convicted yourself as you have admitted the following:
1. You were at the scene
2. You were the other party involved
3. To some degree you struck the other persons window
4. You felt it was severe enough that you expected police involvement
Save all explanation for Court - not that it will ever get there if you shut your mouth and say nothing to the police.
For example,
Plod, "Hello sir, we're hear to talk to you about a road traffic incident today"
You, "Oh yes, I've been sort of expecting this."
Plod, "We've got two witnesses (lie) that said that you punched a gentleman's window"
You, "Nah, it was nothing like that, I just knocked on it and..."
Congratulations, you've just convicted yourself as you have admitted the following:
1. You were at the scene
2. You were the other party involved
3. To some degree you struck the other persons window
4. You felt it was severe enough that you expected police involvement
Save all explanation for Court - not that it will ever get there if you shut your mouth and say nothing to the police.
points 1-4 are no evidence that an offence has occurred, but since there are witnesses to state that this has developed a little further, then what are you expecting the police to believe is the truth. If you say nothing at all about the incident, then we can only go on what the other party is saying.
I suspect that the police are wanting the other side of the story and not looking at prosecuting anyone for anything - as i said before there are no offences for arguing or tapping on a window.
If the shoe was on the other foot and some oik shouted abuse at you and banged on your window, if you wanted police involvement what would you expect from them
16 July 2013, 10:48 AM
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I have worked with many (doormen) who are clueless so fair point there . I had to work the inside one night with over 1800 people in and they sent me one lad who was about 9st and couldn't put the Cat out.
16 July 2013, 10:58 AM
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What planet are you on......
points 1-4 are no evidence that an offence has occurred, but since there are witnesses to state that this has developed a little further, then what are you expecting the police to believe is the truth. If you say nothing at all about the incident, then we can only go on what the other party is saying.
I suspect that the police are wanting the other side of the story and not looking at prosecuting anyone for anything - as i said before there are no offences for arguing or tapping on a window.
If the shoe was on the other foot and some oik shouted abuse at you and banged on your window, if you wanted police involvement what would you expect from them
points 1-4 are no evidence that an offence has occurred, but since there are witnesses to state that this has developed a little further, then what are you expecting the police to believe is the truth. If you say nothing at all about the incident, then we can only go on what the other party is saying.
I suspect that the police are wanting the other side of the story and not looking at prosecuting anyone for anything - as i said before there are no offences for arguing or tapping on a window.
If the shoe was on the other foot and some oik shouted abuse at you and banged on your window, if you wanted police involvement what would you expect from them
I'm on the planet where my wife deals with the police (I presume of which you are one) daily and watches in utter horror at the way they manipulate situations to stitch people up.
Police are not interested in the 'truth'. They are interested in solving crimes to meet their figures and there is no easier way to get a 'tick in the box' than to get a middle class idiot that doesn't know how the system works to start talking under interview.
The only forum for establishing truth is the Courts (...even then!).
16 July 2013, 10:59 AM
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btw, not calling you an idiot sprigeteer. However, unless you've been in bother before you would be way out of your depth in dealing with the police compared to your average jakeball that knows how the system works.
16 July 2013, 11:01 AM
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points 1-4 are no evidence that an offence has occurred
Talking to the police is like pulling your knickers aside when someone smiles at you....you are giving all the goodies away for free and they can hardly jot it down in their notepads quick enough.
16 July 2013, 11:43 AM
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Was doing 5 mph over a speed bump nowhere near him. Just annoyed me he was giving it the biggin through the window and his bottom dropped when I got out the car. I had many a dealing with police on a professional level when I worked the door of a night club in town. Don't have any respect for them after that.