340BHP-WRX

iTrader: (6)

Anyone shed any light on this for me ?

My employer today requested all staff to provide them with vehicle details such as reg number, make, model, engine size and colour. As I've currently got 3 cars they've said I have to give them the details of all 3 and as I don't keep my cars very long I have to provide them with the details of when I sell each one and then I have to give them the details of any new car I own that will be parked at work !

I've asked them why they need this information and they said it's just for the new Sage system. I work in a factory and don't use a car during the day, neither does anyone else they've asked.

Why would they need this information ?

daz1968

iTrader: (13)

Maybe employing a company to police the car park and if not on system will be clamped or towed away,

LVC

To find out who's been parking in the Director's place, lol.

There was a secretary at one of the places I worked for a while who's husband was a car trader. She came in one day with a nice Rolls Royce, 2nd day with it she was politely asked by her boss to come to work in another car !!!!

340BHP-WRX

iTrader: (6)

Nobody really uses our car park other than the employees and visitors.

We're not in an area where people would use our car park and then visit somewhere else etc.

richs2891

If its nothing to do with parking or using your own car for work purposes, I would just makes some up and see if anyone checks. If they do then I would ask for some more details as I really cant see any other reason.

Richard

340BHP-WRX

iTrader: (6)

It's only a small company so they can see who's driving what car.

It just seems abit strange to me, especially as they said it's just for the new sage system.

ReallyReallyGoodMeat

That is not an answer - that is circular reasoning - they need to know because they need to know - I would probe deeper.

greenonedave

Isn't there a scheme/ tax where a company must pay for the available parking space for their employees ? which also restricts the amount of spaces that a company can hold open dependant of number of employees to each company ?

ReallyReallyGoodMeat

I can't think of a single reason why an employer would need to know your engine size.

madscoob

iTrader: (3)

sounds like for tax reasons to me, so they know how much per mile to pay you if ever needed to use own car for work purposes, lots of companies use sage to do the wages

PaulC72

CO2 offset?

howellsy42

I was about to say some thing todo with co2

ReallyReallyGoodMeat

None of those would explain their need to know the colour, it makes no sense!

ReallyReallyGoodMeat

Maybe they're going to do a police database check to make sure none of their employees are driving stolen motors - they just don't trust you

ScoobyWon't

I expect they are allowing a clamping organisation on to the grounds, in return for a cut of the fines.

Or they are going to steal the cars

ScoobyWon't

http://www.acctsoft.co.uk/sage_payroll_benefits.html

340BHP-WRX

iTrader: (6)

That explains it then

Only thing is we don't get an allocated parking bay

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

My lad started work at Tata Steel in December. He had to provide security with his V5, insurance and MoT. Now he can come and go on and off site even when the gates are closed, by the company's own ANPR system.

PaulC72

everyone knows white ones produce less co2 and black the most all those in-between are proportionally evenly distributed depending on position in the colour spectrum

RA Dunk

Why don't you just grow a pair and ask your boss? but remember and be nice about it, Oooiii **** WTF you want my number for you *****? won't get you the next promotion.

Alan Jeffery

It's so they can search the right car to see what's been nicked!

I used to work in Plymouth Dockyard as a boy. "Borrowing" from her Majesty was rife, and something of a sport. You wouldn't believe the things that would go out the main gate!
The classic one was a guy who used to push a wheelbarrow full of straw out every night. Every night the Dockyard Police would search through the straw, convinced he was hiding something. He'd always say it was just straw for his Rabbits.
Of course, he was nicking wheelbarrows!

340BHP-WRX

iTrader: (6)

If you read further up you'd see I did ask and you'd see the answer I was given

tarmac terror

iTrader: (2)

I would ask what controls are in place to protect this data once collected. I was in a meeting today with staff from the Information Commissioners Office, I was a bit surprised to learn that your VRM, make model and colour of vehicle is treated as personal data even without any link to a person at all.

Markus

In a polite manner, I'd state that the vehicles are co-owned with your wife / partner and they have this funny little thing called privacy, both in giving out the information and how / where it is stored and whom has access to it and why. They would like, in writing, exactly what the information is required for, why it is needed in relation to my vehicle, and what happens if I do not wish to provide this information.

ScoobyWon't

Submit a request asking why the details are required under the Freedom of Information Act.

Scooby Jo

Freedom of Information doesn't cover private companies, only relevant for public sector.

It does seem odd this, as someone says Sage is a common payroll system and if you were claiming business mileage then it's a legitimate request, albeit colour seems irrelevant. We keep colour details for site security, easy to identify a particular car as CCTV isn't always clear. It's seems like an over zealous admin person to me

sunnyjones003

iTrader: (12)

i thought sage systems were banking/invoicing software, which we use in work, nothing to do with personal belongings......

Oldun

May be to do with a WPL (Workplace Parking Licence)
Tested by Nottingham and due to be rolled out nationwide.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/...ottingham.html
http://www.nottinghamcity.gov.uk/ind...articleid=2570

Richy P1984

The only reason we had to give engine details was for mileage claims. Anything over 2l capacity qualified you for the higher rate. I've got a really rare scooby 2.1l don't you know.

Only other thing was the reg, model, and colour for car park details - making sure only employees used the car park.

billythekid

****... better get out and cover all the reg plates on my vehicles.... yes officer you can have my VRM when you submit a data request form and £10...

yeah that will work...

The ICO love to try and justify their own existence... when in reality the DVLA just flog your data off to all and sundry including Lithuanian gangsters....